Gotta Christy's and..

Indy_Werner · Post by **Indy_Werner** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:18 am

I'm really liking this hat. It's got a great color (light sable) and after reading about how soft the felt is, I was surprised at the stiffness. It seems along the same as my original federation, but I've pounded that thing over the years. As commonly discussed, the stitching on the ribbon is a little questionable but, for me, it's not much to worry about. It's fine. I took some photos of it but I forgot to take some comapre shots against my federation... oh well. The pinch is a bit off center.. I might fix it, and I might not.

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Erri · Post by **Erri** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:27 am

Perhaps it's time I do a serious review of the Christy's so I don't have to say this in every thread... the brim is cardboard-stiff when the hat first arrives but after a couple of weeks (a month top) wearing the hat it will become completely soft with no stiffness and it will wave into the wind. So...

...Enjoy your hat

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:42 am

The brim on my Christy's flops around when I have the air conditioning in my car on the lowest setting. Thats floppy!

Dave

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:48 am

Erri, I thought you did a serious review of the Christy's in the original Christy's thread. Were you just kidding in that one?

I know other owners reviewed it there.

I'd actually like to see one of these hats in person. They fascinate me, but I don't have the expendable funds to buy one on a whim.

Tremolo · Post by **Tremolo** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:52 am

Congratulations on your new hat, it looks really good. Like Erri said, don´t worry too much about the brim it will get very floppy in a little time. Looks very LC, especially in your last picture!

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:24 am

binkmeisterRick wrote:Erri, I thought you did a serious review of the Christy's in the original Christy's thread. Were you just kidding in that one?

LOL, well I practically only posted pictures and discussed it but not an actual review. I was thinking of making one like I recently did for the shirts but we will see. I am a copycat of kiltie, who inspired me after his extensive hats comparison review.

binkmeisterRick wrote:I'd actually like to see one of these hats in person. They fascinate me, but I don't have the expendable funds to buy one on a whim.

Now watch it Bink... you might get a couple of PMs saying "In case you're considering one... DON'T!!!! DON'T!!! BEWARE!!!"

Fashination towards the Christy's is something you want to keep secret around here

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:46 am

I think I can handle it, Erri. Thanks for your concern, though.

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:05 am

no problem

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:05 pm

Rick, I settled my fascination with Federation Deluxes by buying one and love it. So maybe if you do end up buying a Christy's you'll like it.

I too have a fascination with these.

Randy

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:08 pm

I seem to be starting at the top of the pile (owning f ABs) so I guess the only way to go from there is down!

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:36 pm

true. maybe you could buy a Dorfman and count your AB blessings?

Randy

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:38 pm

I've considered it!

Seriously, I remember begging for one as a kid and never getting one. I'm occasionally tempted to get one now just for the nostalgia.

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:41 pm

As a kid, I had a Stetson official Indy hat given to me by my grandfather. Funny, wanting another one led me here.

I have a wool DP I bought before coming here.. it left the box once.

Randy

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:51 pm

Oh, I'm not saying I'd actually wear the DP.

I think what fascinates me about the Christy's is the floppiness and the possibility of a thinner felt. I'd love to get a decent featherweight fedora for the summer months, but I'm not sure the Christy is quite that. It may not be the most SA or durable hat around, but I wouldn't be using it for an Indy hat, anyway.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:56 pm

Well, I wore my Christy's all though the South Florida summer and it hasn't tapered or fallen apart. It is defintalely a thin hat. I got a grey one so that I would have a dressier hat to go with my black and blue suits. It definately fit the bill. Little by little I've been introducing it into my more casual clothing and have just about got the hat where I wear it at least three times a week and it, as I said before, has held up very well and has a nice a subtle reverse taper to the it. Its not the best hat in the world, especially when you put it up next to an AB, but it is what it is and I like it for that.

Dave

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:00 pm

Dave, could you possibly take a marco picture comparing the brim widths of the two hats and PM them to me?

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:04 pm

Which two hats? If you referring to the AB, I haven't received mine yet. I was comparing it to GoneSolo's AB and the photos I've seen here. I'd be more than happy to send you pictures of the Christy's and my Penman. I think the Penman and AB both have the same brim width.

Dave

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:20 pm

The Penman and Christy will work, too. I'm not after the brim width though, rather an idea of the thickness of the felt.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:28 pm

Sure. I'll do it when I get home. I think John uses the same felt Steve does so it will be good indicator of how the Christy's felt compares to the AB felt. The Christy's felt is defintely less dense. It has a lot of air in it. It absorbs water like a sponge. It hasn't tapered on me and its gone a couple light showers and lots of heat and humidity. It should hold up fine.

Dave

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:41 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:I seem to be starting at the top of the pile (owning f ABs) so I guess the only way to go from there is down!

In quality yes of course, one can only go down, I have an AB-Deluxe so I can definitely say it's the difference between the Queen Mary and Quint's boat from Jaws. And I'm not talking of the type of felt (rabbit Vs beaver), only about craftmanship and the choice of material.
But if you consider the Christy in the ocean of modern hats it is one of the most appealing. If you are looking for a non-indy hat even better, means you don't have to worry about possible tapering!

kiltie · Post by **kiltie** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:56 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote: I think what fascinates me about the Christy's is the floppiness and the possibility of a thinner felt. I'd love to get a decent featherweight fedora for the summer months, but I'm not sure the Christy is quite that. It may not be the most SA or durable hat around, but I wouldn't be using it for an Indy hat, anyway.

I took the liner out of my frontline Christys' after much abuse. I don't think it'll be going back in. We'll see how that goes. I'm torn between continuing on with the Great Christys' Experiment and taking out the much heavier AB this spring/summer to see what it can do. That is ultimately what put me over on the AB; seeing the "in action" shots by Jens and his ilk. I know it has the potential to be a real albatros in the Texas heat, but I'm pretty resistant. We'll see...

Bink, this is a real stretch - like the span of the Golden Gate Bridge stretch - but do you remember the last generations of the Banana Republic fedoras? Not the really nice, well made ones that came early on with the pugaree, but the thinner ones with the cloth sweatbands that were real floppy? That's pretty similar to the Christys' Adventurer.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:59 pm

I've dealt plenty with ABs in the heat, and will so again! Sadly, I can't remember the BR hats. Thanks, anyway.

Really, I just want a featherweight hat, even if I end up going to Art Fawcett (who has some NICE featherweight felt) or anyone else who can help me scratch that itch.

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:03 pm

What about the PB floppy rabbits?

Randy

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:18 pm

kiltie wrote: seeing the "in action" shots by Jens and his ilk. I know it has the potential to be a real albatros in the Texas heat, but I'm pretty resistant. We'll see...

I believe Jens has a vintage hat reblocked by Marc but yes the AB do resist to a lot of summer adventures. I can vouch for that

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:19 pm

theinterchange wrote:What about the PB floppy rabbits?

Randy

I've seen some nice PB hats in person, but they're just not my cup of tea. But I haven't seen a Christy's in person, so I'm a bit clueless as to whether that one may or may not work.

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:21 pm

Ahh, gotcha! I know how that is.

Randy

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:32 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:
theinterchange wrote:What about the PB floppy rabbits?

Randy
I've seen some nice PB hats in person, but they're just not my cup of tea. But I haven't seen a Christy's in person, so I'm a bit clueless as to whether that one may or may not work.

Would a video of me handling the hat help?

ANJALI · Post by **ANJALI** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:47 pm

Just to join Erry...even I've been disappointed by a severe shrinkage with my first Christys.
I must recognize that It's the best deal on the market for the moment. I've been disappointed by the Fed IV, and must confess that I don't wear the Fed but always the Christys except the old Fed...but, unfortunetely they stopped to produce it.
Since, I bought some Christys , a light sable, a burma and a cork.
If christys was able to produce the same hat (excellent size for the brim) with a thicker felt...It will be fantastic. the price is uncredible for a such hat and the service perfect. Only two weeks to wait to have my order : BRAVO Hornets.
I post some pictures

Probably my last post

ANJALI from Nairobi

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:59 pm

ahhhh don't you just love that Burma colour? Doesn't it look like the same colour of the seaplane hat!?!?!? Nope? Oh well

The ribbon on the burma looks like the same colour (and size) of the light sable, can you confirm me that? Did you specifically asked for that colour? I wanted the same colour but they didn't have it in a wider size

Thanks for your feedback ANJALI, it's great to see such a variety in pictures!

Tremolo · Post by **Tremolo** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:24 pm

Great pictures Anjali! It´s good to see more pictures of Burma and Cork. Even if I can only speak for Cork and Sable, your pictures display these two extremely well!

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:54 pm

ANJALI, no one on these boards makes these hats "their own" like you. Those hats look great. I really like the cork color. I hadn't seen that one yet. Great pics.

Dave

Tremolo · Post by **Tremolo** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:02 pm

Dave, if you want to see some pictures of the Cork colour take a look at this thread here
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=37052&hilit=young+indy
My Young Indy fed is also Cork, and I have to say it became one of my favorite hat colours.

ANJALI · Post by **ANJALI** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:22 am

Erri wrote: The ribbon on the burma looks like the same colour (and size) of the light sable, can you confirm me that? Did you specifically asked for that colour?

yes, the ribbon has the same colour.
i've just ordered a burma hat without specifically colour. Burma = green-grey (near (but not like) the colour of the military australian slouch hat)
Regards
Anjali

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:06 am

ANJALI wrote:

ANJALI from Nairobi

I do like that "cork" color. Is it as reddish as it appears on my monitor? And the Burma has a greenish tint to it?

Cheers!

Dan

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:44 am

The burma is of a green tint although its colour really changes a lot in front of your very eyes depending on the light... let alone try to catch it on camera correctly.
You can find some pictures of my burma here... viewtopic.php?f=1&t=36083&hilit=seaplane and a video here viewtopic.php?f=1&t=36581&hilit=seaplane

Tremolo · Post by **Tremolo** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:14 am

DanielJones wrote:
I do like that "cork" color. Is it as reddish as it appears on my monitor? And the Burma has a greenish tint to it?

Cheers!

Dan

It is quite reddish but under certain lights it can also look a bit like Sable. So like Burma it is a very changing colour.

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:04 pm

Interesting.

Well, thanks for the heads up guys, most appreciated.

Cheers!

Dan

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:09 pm

kiltie wrote:
binkmeisterRick wrote: I think what fascinates me about the Christy's is the floppiness and the possibility of a thinner felt. I'd love to get a decent featherweight fedora for the summer months, but I'm not sure the Christy is quite that. It may not be the most SA or durable hat around, but I wouldn't be using it for an Indy hat, anyway.
I took the liner out of my frontline Christys' after much abuse. I don't think it'll be going back in. We'll see how that goes. I'm torn between continuing on with the Great Christys' Experiment and taking out the much heavier AB this spring/summer to see what it can do. That is ultimately what put me over on the AB; seeing the "in action" shots by Jens and his ilk. I know it has the potential to be a real albatros in the Texas heat, but I'm pretty resistant. We'll see...

Bink, this is a real stretch - like the span of the Golden Gate Bridge stretch - but do you remember the last generations of the Banana Republic fedoras? Not the really nice, well made ones that came early on with the pugaree, but the thinner ones with the cloth sweatbands that were real floppy? That's pretty similar to the Christys' Adventurer.

Come on kiltie. You know this joke. If you can't take the heat............ become a cop.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:16 pm

That is ultimately what put me over on the AB; seeing the "in action" shots by Jens and his ilk. I know it has the potential to be a real albatros in the Texas heat, but I'm pretty resistant. We'll see...

Blasphamy, I know, but I punched air vents in the side of one of my AB's and removed the liner for that type heat. Worked wonders when I wore it in the Arizona heat a couple years ago, and has become my 'year round' hat for the most part. When it gets cold, I just stick the liner back in the hat.

Regards! Michaelson

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:26 pm

Michaelson, for what you did I would invoke the tradition of our illustrious forebears, reach back to a purer, sterner justice, and have you BURNED AT THE STAKE!

kiltie · Post by **kiltie** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:27 pm

BendingOak wrote: Come on kiltie. You know this joke. If you can't take the heat............ become a cop.

Other images that come to mind:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj29 ... e_Here.jpg
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj29 ... tled-4.jpg
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj29 ... colate.jpg

...and the famous picture of the monk self-immolating in Vietnam ( didn't seem appropriate on the family site ).

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:28 pm

............ wow Michaelson./. bet that does work. Did it take some doing to make yourself punch holes in it?

Randy

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:13 pm

Thanks for the posts on the Cork color. It looks like it is lighter than Sable, but darker than Light Sable?

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:53 am

Erri wrote:the brim is cardboard-stiff when the hat first arrives but after a couple of weeks (a month top) wearing the hat it will become completely soft with no stiffness and it will wave into the wind. So...

...Enjoy your hat

This is what I was talking about... check out this video I took

CLICK HERE FOR THE VIDEO

Tremolo · Post by **Tremolo** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:06 am

Texan Scott wrote:Thanks for the posts on the Cork color. It looks like it is lighter than Sable, but darker than Light Sable?

Yep, Cork is a tad lighter than sable. It has less olive in it, so that might add to the impression as well. I will try to do a comparison shot of those two colours side by side in the next days.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:39 pm

The cork reminds me of the screenused fedora, color, etc. Anyone else get that impression?

Tremolo · Post by **Tremolo** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:02 am

Under certain lights Cork comes very close to the colour shown in screenused´s pictures. But it isn´t always looking that reddish like for example the Miller 257/258. However it comes very close, especially in the sun!

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:06 am

I read with interest the several comments about how "floppy" the visors on the Christy's are. There is a spray made especially for felt hats designed to re-stiffen them. One of the brand names (no puns here please) is "stiffy." One application will last a considerable time, dependant on the frequency of wear and the weather conditions at your location.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:28 pm

where can a person look 'spiffy' and get 'stiffy'? What if it is sprayed on the ribbon? damage?

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:25 pm

The best things of these hats is the softness and you want them stiff?

(kidding aside, good to know about this product)