did the LC strap have grooves?

Post by **Holt** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:42 pm

hi.

this I think shows that the LC strap had some grooves on them of some kind.

small ones that go horizontal on the strap.

regards
Hol

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:50 pm

Those look like stretch marks to me, Eric.

Regard! Michaelson

Post by **Holt** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:00 pm

hmmm

maby...

but if it was stretch marks then I dont get how they could appear like 9'' or so in between them on the strap?

but it's not an important thing to me...grooves or not..I just thought that
maby there was grooves in them afterall?...

but there is so much more important things in life them grooves on a strap or not.heheLOL

what are we doing sometimes I wonder

Eric

Indiana Jake · Post by **Indiana Jake** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:24 pm

Just speculation, but it appears that the effects and stunt riggers were trying to hide a cable that would have been attached to a harness during the sequence where Indy hangs from the tank barrel. From my observation, it doesn't show up anywhere else in the films.

Jake J

Nassik · Post by **Nassik** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:38 am

Looking at the pictures I think that the horizontal lines are stretch marks and natural creases, not deliberate markings in the leather. Considering the stress that the leather went through during the filming of that scene the marks don't surprise me.

If we're feeling particularly scrutinizing, though, has anyone looked at the vertical line on the strap as seen in the middle picture? Look to the left side of the strap (Indy's left). The line goes all the way up and down the strap. I would've thought it was another stress mark at first but the line goes all the way up the strap and it looks to be very uniform. You can see the line most clearly inside of the buckle and on the lower portion of the strap. That's not the edge of the strap, it's an inset. And if it isn't deliberate that's one heck of a straight stress mark.

Louisiana Jones · Post by **Louisiana Jones** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:21 am

Indiana Jake wrote:Just speculation, but it appears that the effects and stunt riggers were trying to hide a cable that would have been attached to a harness during the sequence where Indy hangs from the tank barrel. From my observation, it doesn't show up anywhere else in the films.

Jake J

You took the words right outta my mouth.

True the tank was going pretty slow, but I doubt they would have taken chances with a non-reinforced leather strap. So I'd figure that the strap's slightly different appearance was due to it being a specially made one just for that scene.

LJ

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:57 pm

anyone got any new leads on this "stunt" strap? or do we still believe it to be a stretch mark?

Nibs

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:08 am

Holt - I can't believe you are talking about straps when the jacket used in this scene has the collar NOT meeting the storm flap in the middle as seen in most of the other scenes! Kinda like the one in the smithsonian

Indiana Jake · Post by **Indiana Jake** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:57 pm

Maybe it is time to make a SA stunt rig strap for the LC tank scene. You know, make it for the one time he wears it this way.

Indiana Jake

Imahomer · Post by **Imahomer** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:00 pm

coronado3 wrote:Holt - I can't believe you are talking about straps when the jacket used in this scene has the collar NOT meeting the storm flap in the middle as seen in most of the other scenes! Kinda like the one in the smithsonian

It's unbelievable! I'm amazed...

Post by **Holt** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:03 pm

is this new to you guys?

the picture shows the smithsonian jacket with the collar NOT ending in the middle of the stormflap. just like the wested LC's today....

the other LC original had the collar meeting halfway between zipper and edge...

nothing new to me....

Imahomer · Post by **Imahomer** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:42 pm

I guess I was just poking fun at something I think is so minor and old...

I've been bad.

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:48 am

NO it is not new info...

The point is that I have not seen another SCREEN shot from LC where the collar DOESN'T meet the flap in the middle other than the pics you posted of the tank scene. PERHAPS the jacket worn by Harry in this scene IS the Smithsonian jacket.

PS. the lines on the strap appear to be cracks in the leather due to dryness

Post by **Holt** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:59 pm

yes you are rigth. the tank scene jacket IS the smithsonian jacket with the collar not meeting in the middle of the SF. just like I said above.

hmmm?...no I dont think it is cracked due the dye...

it could also look like it is a steel band twirled around the strap. anyways,.. there is something really weird going on with that strap thats for sure.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:32 pm

Looks like tape to me.

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:00 pm

I agree with RCSignals- that definitely looks like tape. Maybe the strap was becoming so dried out that they had to keep it together with tape

Nibs

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:02 pm

the one looks like tape, the other like a steel band as Holt mentioned.. to me at least!

Randy

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:38 pm

or they did tape something to the underside to give it stiffness. look how it arches in the photo and doesn't flop at all. Is he trying to take it off there, slipping his head under the strap?

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:01 am

RCSignals wrote:or they did tape something to the underside to give it stiffness. look how it arches in the photo and doesn't flop at all. Is he trying to take it off there, slipping his head under the strap?

Perhaps a strand of wire to hold the bend shape?

Nibs

Texas Raider · Post by **Texas Raider** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:54 am

o.k., this is old news, guys. Yes that is a stunt strap in the tank scene. There is an old thread somewhere with pics clearly showing the cable that is underneath, attached to the underside of the strap. That tape and steel band probably are holding the two together.

TR

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:38 pm

Texas Raider wrote:o.k., this is old news, guys. Yes that is a stunt strap in the tank scene. There is an old thread somewhere with pics clearly showing the cable that is underneath, attached to the underside of the strap. That tape and steel band probably are holding the two together.

TR

Well then please enlighten us and show us this picture

Nibs

knibs7 · Post by **knibs7** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:30 pm

No Picture?

Nibs

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