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With just a little bit of wear, my jacket is also getting the "condition" where the nonstormflap side is folding back to reveal the liner, like in this picture.
http://www.theraider.net/showimage.php? ... ts/393.jpg
I'm not a jacket expert but I think this is caused by there not being an inside collar stand which allows the collar to bend back and thus that side of the jacket.
http://www.theraider.net/showimage.php? ... ts/393.jpg
I'm not a jacket expert but I think this is caused by there not being an inside collar stand which allows the collar to bend back and thus that side of the jacket.
Oh, I know that it isn't the issue that others have had of the lining being too baggy and hanging past the zipper. It's natural to this jacket and very SA as you can see by the link I included.RCSignals wrote:That's not the lining being exposed that other's are experiencing. It's on the other side with the lining moving forward and sticking out slightly.
The ToD does have a collar stand, it's just that it's on the outside instead of the inside neck area.
And what I meant was that all the other Indy jackets I've had have a collar stand on the inside and the outside of the jacket (I'm talking a separate strip of leather). The Temple only has this on the outside and I think this allows the collar to lay back and thus the whole front of the jacket.
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I don't see the lining bagging out on the left in that photo.
The collar on my ToD doesn't do that, but them mine isn't goat hide. The jacket in the movie was pretty beat up, with stitching undone even in that photo.
I worked the collar of mine along the top of that storm flap with my hands, so the collar folds over it better.
The collar on my ToD doesn't do that, but them mine isn't goat hide. The jacket in the movie was pretty beat up, with stitching undone even in that photo.
I worked the collar of mine along the top of that storm flap with my hands, so the collar folds over it better.
The fit on the sleeves seems to be consistent with how mine fits me. It hangs down to the first knuckle of my thumb with the arms down. I've noticed that the sleeve does ride back a little more than my Wested Raiders, that has the same sleeve length, as I extend my arm because of the way the sleeve is cut around the bicep.
And not to beat a dead horse (especially on such a minor point) but Knibs jacket also shows what I was talking about earlier. Look at the non-stormflap side of his jacket. See how the jacket folds back to show the lining? The lining isn't sicking out, the leather has folded back to reveal the lining. Maybe other jackets do this as well but I haven't noticed anything that pronounced in my jackets or any of the other movie jackets. Again, it's a minor point I know, but it does seem to be a unique feature of how this jacket hangs.
And not to beat a dead horse (especially on such a minor point) but Knibs jacket also shows what I was talking about earlier. Look at the non-stormflap side of his jacket. See how the jacket folds back to show the lining? The lining isn't sicking out, the leather has folded back to reveal the lining. Maybe other jackets do this as well but I haven't noticed anything that pronounced in my jackets or any of the other movie jackets. Again, it's a minor point I know, but it does seem to be a unique feature of how this jacket hangs.
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Neither of the two I have do that.crismans wrote:......
And not to beat a dead horse (especially on such a minor point) but Knibs jacket also shows what I was talking about earlier. Look at the non-stormflap side of his jacket. See how the jacket folds back to show the lining? The lining isn't sicking out, the leather has folded back to reveal the lining. Maybe other jackets do this as well but I haven't noticed anything that pronounced in my jackets or any of the other movie jackets. Again, it's a minor point I know, but it does seem to be a unique feature of how this jacket hangs.
I think if you work the collar fold line over the collar stand it may help correct that.
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those collar stands are all over the place as far as shape and size....knibs, yours looks like they almost forgot it. what's up with that? please tell me that its a photographic illusion.......i was always interested in getting one of these but again, it's going to be a gamble on whether or not it matches to what noel had. i'm sure they are great jackets and such, but i have many westeds. if i want a TOD jacket, i want a TOD jacket with everything all-in.......not someone's interpretation of it.
in regards to the jacket being too small......well, it's SA for sure then. i think it looks good.
in regards to the jacket being too small......well, it's SA for sure then. i think it looks good.
The kind you have between the 2 teaser posters. I don't know if you have the big version of that one too, but it looks like you have 2 teasers and 1 theatrical version! Besides, I want to get rid of my CS poster and a ToD poster would be a perfect replacement.knibs7 wrote:Which theatrical poster are you talking about?
EDIT: Actually I think I thought that one was smaller than it is..! Well if you want another one and don't like your ToD one, lemme know. Or if you have the other ToD poster.
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Nibs,
It actually looks great. I would not give it a second thought. Based on the picture from the back I would think you would be swimming in a larger size, the back panel looks a little big as is, any bigger would be too much. I too have no plans to zip this up when worn. I can zip mine up OK, but it's a little tight. The way the movie jacket fit I believe it would have been a tight fit on Ford if zipped up. The TOD has a different look than any of the others. Any larger I think the overall look would be sacrificed.
You should be OK with the sleeve length, it looks good. I find the sleeves will also react differently with your arms up, based on how the jacket is sitting on your shoulders.
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It actually looks great. I would not give it a second thought. Based on the picture from the back I would think you would be swimming in a larger size, the back panel looks a little big as is, any bigger would be too much. I too have no plans to zip this up when worn. I can zip mine up OK, but it's a little tight. The way the movie jacket fit I believe it would have been a tight fit on Ford if zipped up. The TOD has a different look than any of the others. Any larger I think the overall look would be sacrificed.
You should be OK with the sleeve length, it looks good. I find the sleeves will also react differently with your arms up, based on how the jacket is sitting on your shoulders.
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The collar stands? Or the top above the storm flap?Indiana G wrote:those collar stands are all over the place as far as shape and size....knibs, yours looks like they almost forgot it. what's up with that? please tell me that its a photographic illusion.......i was always interested in getting one of these but again, it's going to be a gamble on whether or not it matches to what noel had. i'm sure they are great jackets and such, but i have many westeds. if i want a TOD jacket, i want a TOD jacket with everything all-in.......not someone's interpretation of it.
in regards to the jacket being too small......well, it's SA for sure then. i think it looks good.
The one on the NH was mashed, it was a tiny stub, and all the stitching had come apart. the one on this jacket is about right, it should probably have a squared off corner but that's about it.
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Nibs, It does look a bit small. The arm length is correct for right now but may get short when the sleeves wrinkle. Your 'Crucifix' image shows how it's long enough. The 'frankinstein' pose really has no bearing on the fit of the jacket, any jacket not made of a stretchy material or does not have cuff ribbing will do that to some degree, and you can see Ford's jackets do that in the driving scenes in Raiders.
It would suit very well for the "end of movie' scenes, for the "village" scenes you might want to order slightly bigger/looser. The rolled over zipper is so screen like as is the way the collar flares.
It would suit very well for the "end of movie' scenes, for the "village" scenes you might want to order slightly bigger/looser. The rolled over zipper is so screen like as is the way the collar flares.
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I think he means the collar stand end, which of course also forms a part of the storm flap top.Kt Templar wrote:The collar stands? Or the top above the storm flap?Indiana G wrote:those collar stands are all over the place as far as shape and size....knibs, yours looks like they almost forgot it. what's up with that? please tell me that its a photographic illusion.......i was always interested in getting one of these but again, it's going to be a gamble on whether or not it matches to what noel had. i'm sure they are great jackets and such, but i have many westeds. if i want a TOD jacket, i want a TOD jacket with everything all-in.......not someone's interpretation of it.
in regards to the jacket being too small......well, it's SA for sure then. i think it looks good.
The one on the NH was mashed, it was a tiny stub, and all the stitching had come apart. the one on this jacket is about right, it should probably have a squared off corner but that's about it.
Knibs' looks good but a little short compared to mine and others. It could be Knibs' is the right length and the others are not.
The best looking one pictured so far is Shane's on the jacket that was too big for him.
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That jacket looks great Knibs, but the stormflap top...what is up with that?
Like someone else asked, is it just the photo, or is it really that small?
I was goin to cancel my washed goat TOD, but I'm glad I didn't. They look so good. But honestly, if mine arrives with the stormflap looking like that, it's going straight back. I've accepted enough near-enoughs not to have to put up with something like that again. It's not like it's a hard-to-see part of the jacket..it's right there. And it shouldn't be hard to get it right; it should be as wide as the storm flap and squared, not rounded, off, right?
I know leather isn't easy to work with, but these people are professionals. The inconsistencies are getting ridiculous, and more frequent.
And yes, I'm angry.
Like someone else asked, is it just the photo, or is it really that small?
I was goin to cancel my washed goat TOD, but I'm glad I didn't. They look so good. But honestly, if mine arrives with the stormflap looking like that, it's going straight back. I've accepted enough near-enoughs not to have to put up with something like that again. It's not like it's a hard-to-see part of the jacket..it's right there. And it shouldn't be hard to get it right; it should be as wide as the storm flap and squared, not rounded, off, right?
I know leather isn't easy to work with, but these people are professionals. The inconsistencies are getting ridiculous, and more frequent.
And yes, I'm angry.
A few minutes of research here would show you that yes, the end of the storm flap is really that small. The only problem is that Knibs is rounded where the end of the flap is supposed to be squared off just like the stitch on the end of his storm flap.Like someone else asked, is it just the photo, or is it really that small?
This I agree with 110%. They had the original jacket in hand so I cannot see how the inconsistancies keep popping up. Again, no quality control or perhaps a full understanding of the various differences from jacket to jacket over at Wested.It's not like it's a hard-to-see part of the jacket..it's right there. And it shouldn't be hard to get it right
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What's up with wanting jackets people can't zip up? If it's a costume you want , ok, but if it's something you plan on having and wearing for a few years you need an extra inch or so.
Jackets can and do shrink and people, especially ones in their 20's, might get a bit bigger as they leave those years behind. Not saying anyone will get gigantic, but an inch or so will make a big difference.
I'd say an extra inch in the chest and an inch on the sleeves - those will shorten most likely.
Jackets can and do shrink and people, especially ones in their 20's, might get a bit bigger as they leave those years behind. Not saying anyone will get gigantic, but an inch or so will make a big difference.
I'd say an extra inch in the chest and an inch on the sleeves - those will shorten most likely.
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You can see in the photo of the NH jacket the collar stand end is longer than the one on knibs' jacket. It has slight radiused tip, but fairly straight sided. I think it's plain to see even though the end has obviously come apart.Mac wrote:Knibs the fit and the jacket look good. As for the end of the collar stand, I wouldn’t loose any sleep over it, but if you want more “screen accuracy” try the hot-water stretch trick (and maybe a seam ripper.)
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Raider, not necessarily. We are all in different climates. I have different jackets for different seasons. While I know not everyone does, I am looking at this as a warmer weather jacket. No need to zip it up. It's not a costume jacket for me, but still serves a functional purpose. In a pinch I can zip it up, but I prefer it look tighter as I want at least one of my jackets to really emulate what's on screen.Raider S wrote:What's up with wanting jackets people can't zip up? If it's a costume you want , ok, but if it's something you plan on having and wearing for a few years you need an extra inch or so.
The photo of Nibs with his arms out I think proves it's not too small to me. However, as with anything else the responses here have proven that opinion is varied. It's really up to Nibs, and what makes him happy.
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What the...?? No offense meant to Orb, but he ordered his first ToD after I did and received it before me. Now he's ordered a second ToD that it's beginning to look as if he'll receive this second one before me as well. I ordered back in mid-Dec. when Peter stated that he had dark brown hides in stock, so this shouldn't be a hide shortage issue. I'd really like to know what's going on with my order -- but I can't even get a reply email. I understand that KT said they're snowed in, but what about the other emails that went unanswered until I resent them from weeks ago? Again, nothing against Orb, I'm glad at least someone is getting their jacket, but what about little old me??
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Phone Wested. I just did, and it cleared up a few things.
I won't go into detail, but I think I'll be phoning from now on whenever I have an enquiry.
I feel they're an old fashioned company and that the phone is the preferred way of doing business. Even though it's slower, if someone answers the phone, you will get the answers you seek. Hopefully.
Regardless, my washed goat is being cut as we speak, apparently.
I'd actually tried to cancel, but on hearing it's so close to completion, I've decided to stick with it. It's a Temple of Doom jacket after all, so I will have no trouble convincing myself I now need a TN Raiders jacket to complete my set.
I hope you get your jacket/s soon, Tyrloch, but at this rate I may beat you to it too...
I won't go into detail, but I think I'll be phoning from now on whenever I have an enquiry.
I feel they're an old fashioned company and that the phone is the preferred way of doing business. Even though it's slower, if someone answers the phone, you will get the answers you seek. Hopefully.
Regardless, my washed goat is being cut as we speak, apparently.
I'd actually tried to cancel, but on hearing it's so close to completion, I've decided to stick with it. It's a Temple of Doom jacket after all, so I will have no trouble convincing myself I now need a TN Raiders jacket to complete my set.
I hope you get your jacket/s soon, Tyrloch, but at this rate I may beat you to it too...
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