Cant get these dang tabs to stay where I want them!

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:41 pm

Is this a common problem with Wested D Rings? I tighten the tabs to where I want them, then after a while, they slowly slide out to where they were when I first took the jacket out of the bag.

Post by **Holt** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:43 pm

easy.

1) soak the straps and let them dry in the position were you want them.they will stay put after that.

2) reverse the one D ring inside out,then they wont go anywere.

problem solved,on to enjoying the jacket again.

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:47 pm

Could you elaborate more on the second option? Im interested. Also currently sitting here with wet pushed up sleeves lol, these jackets are an ongoing obsession.

Post by **Holt** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:14 pm

just reverse the one Dring.very easy. just let the straight bar on the Dring be shown on the outside instead of under the loop.and let the other D ring be as it is...

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:36 pm

yup after I asked i decided to try it, very nice thank you Holt!

Post by **Holt** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:37 pm

anytime ;-)

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:14 am

This is what I did, add a single stitch top and bottom. works like a dream. If you are better with a needle you can do it without going over the strap, just go through 2 of the exisiting sewing holes and make a horizontal stitch.

Satipo · Post by **Satipo** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:00 am

What pants are they, Kt? Interesting pocket flap.

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:02 am

Also KT, what hide is that and what strap is that??????

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:03 am

That's another reason why I prefer the sliders over the D-rings. ;-)

Regards! Michaelson

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:10 am

Hi guys,

Custom cotton pants, custom bag strap, novapelle jacket.

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:02 pm

KT, How many treatments of Pecards would you estimate are on your novapelle.....any other treatment or distressing other than ordinary wear and how old is it ?.....thanks

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:19 pm

Hatch wrote:KT, How many treatments of Pecards would you estimate are on your novapelle.....any other treatment or distressing other than ordinary wear and how old is it ?.....thanks

In that pics it was about 5 months old, only light wear and a couple of applications of pecard dressing (the thick stuff) no artificial distressing. The jacket had been treated about a week previously.

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:25 am

I have D rings on my Wested lamb as well, and the slippage was BRUTAL!

However, I wore the jacket in the shower one day, and the rings haven't slipped since!

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:32 am

maboot38 wrote:I have D rings on my Wested lamb as well, and the slippage was BRUTAL!

However, I wore the jacket in the shower one day, and the rings haven't slipped since!

Still haven't been able to fish them out of the drain yet?

;-)

Regards! Michaelson

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:44 am

Nice. It just seems that the more you beat these jackets up, the better they get. So far in addition to the shower, I've also worn mine shoveling snow, and I wore it fishing in the water up to my waist.

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:14 pm

I wear my fedora and the jacket when I shovel snow:)

The tabs slipped again...I dont care anymore. Im falling out of love with this jacket. I feel like I should get a ToD with all Ive learned here about stuff.

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:24 pm

Check this out:
http://www.strapworks.com/Metal_Loops_p/ml.htm

You can buy 1" sliders in flat (good) or glossy (ok) black. They're not too expensive, and they work better than D-rings. That's what I did to mine, and they work fine! They're easy to install if you just have a pair of pliers to bend them open and closed again with.

The best part - you don't have to send your jacket back to England to get them replaced! ;-) They've worked great on mine. I absolutely recommend them.

Shane

Post by **Holt** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:32 pm

man,your falling out of love with thejacket becasue of the tiniest detail?

replace them with rectangular sliders and you will never ever have to worrie about it anymore...

maboot38 · Post by **maboot38** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:12 am

Yeah, Joyce. Don't be so hard on your jacket!!!! Love it, and it'll love you back

Redinight · Post by **Redinight** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:33 am

I don't know. I just got a OTR Wested Lambskin, with brass rectangle sliders. I also have a US wings vip with D-rings.

These rectangle sliders are far worse, they don't stay put for long at all. I hope Peter will get the buckle like the novak jackt for his SA Raiders jacket.

I really hope he makes an SA OTR Raiders. In my opinion, after looking at the Novak and going through the film frame by frame for three and a half hours... the only serious changes need to be made are:

1) Change the sliders to buckles, stays put, and for SA makes the point on the strap point to the back.
3) No xbox to connect the strap on the front, an empty verticle rectangle. On the back panel connection the rectangle is again vertical with a K or < inside. < opened to the back.
2) Alter the sculpt of the pocket flap again, longer on the sides, less point in the center and more point on the bottom sides
3) Change the positions of flap snaps, move them up slighty about the length of the button because it's too far down in the point.
4) Move the seam on the back of the arm 1.25 inches below the yoke.
5) Back panel should just touch or be on the seam on the sides near the yoke.

Basically, yeah like the novak, or Holt's changes on his pockets and his seam below the yoke. However, I don't really agree with Holt's longer collar... The jackets shifted so much to one side of Harrison in many scenes so much so that does not seem substancial enough to warrent a standard change... That's just my opinion.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:44 am

Redinight wrote:I don't know. I just got a OTR Wested Lambskin, with brass rectangle sliders. I also have a US wings vip with D-rings.

These rectangle sliders are far worse, they don't stay put for long at all. I hope Peter will get the buckle like the novak jackt for his SA Raiders jacket.

I really hope he makes an SA OTR Raiders. In my opinion, after looking at the Novak and going through the film frame by frame for three and a half hours... the only serious changes need to be made are:

1) Change the sliders to buckles, stays put, and for SA makes the point on the strap point to the back.
3) No xbox to connect the strap on the front, an empty verticle rectangle. On the back panel connection the rectangle is again vertical with a K or < inside. < opened to the back.
2) Alter the sculpt of the pocket flap again, longer on the sides, less point in the center and more point on the bottom sides
3) Change the positions of flap snaps, move them up slighty about the length of the button because it's too far down in the point.
4) Move the seam on the back of the arm 1.25 inches below the yoke.
5) Back panel should just touch or be on the seam on the sides near the yoke.

Basically, yeah like the novak, or Holt's changes on his pockets and his seam below the yoke. However, I don't really agree with Holt's longer collar... The jackets shifted so much to one side of Harrison in many scenes so much so that does not seem substancial enough to warrent a standard change... That's just my opinion.

great observations rednight......however.....with peter's current offering's the cut is not correct. you would have to gauge that by feel....how the back tries to fall of your shoulders (ie - the shoulder seam should be in the back of the jacket...not right on your shoulders)....and how the shoulders rest snug on your shoulder caps....how the arms are cut higher for a more true fit...the fit of the current pattern feels wrong imo and the OTR jackets are worse. it feels like those are too squarish. that's my 2 cents as i can compare both. but then again, there are folks out there who look better with wested's cut.....eventhough the yoke panel is up too high ;-)

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:07 pm

well, truthfully, its not one tiny detail, its alot of tiny details. They are all my fault, nothing Wested did, but, live and learn. Besides the tabs slipping, I should have ordered the sleeves a bit longer, I understand now that shrinking issue people discuss, now that Ive wrinkled up the sleeves. But I also should have gotten cotton sleeves not satin, as the satin keeps sticking out the bottom of the cuff. I think the cotton would have shrunk with the sleeves.

I also feel that I should have gotten the back an inch longer. And, I should have asked here about getting a silver zipper, because the brass one just reminds me of the fact that its not SA. I mean, the whole jacket isnt, because Im not built like HF, but, Im hard on everything.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:12 pm

Joyce was yours a LC/CS or a Raiders?

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:26 pm

Cant keep your straps in place? ---two words..."DUCT TAPE" ;-)

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:31 pm

Mine are long enough on my Chestnut Wested I tied them off just like you would a cinch strap on a saddle.

Weston

RaiderZee · Post by **RaiderZee** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:37 pm

Indiana Joyce wrote:I also should have gotten cotton sleeves not satin, as the satin keeps sticking out the bottom of the cuff. I think the cotton would have shrunk with the sleeves.

Is this a universal problem? I just placed a custom order w/ Wested. I ordered it a bit big, especially in the sleeves; planning on hot water treatments. Should I change the sleeve lining to cotton instead of satin?

RaiderZee

Post by **Holt** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:39 pm

that depends on the leather

RaiderZee · Post by **RaiderZee** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:52 pm

soft goat

Post by **Holt** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:57 pm

I would go with the satin. I HATE cotton sleevs. really uncomfortable....

RaiderZee · Post by **RaiderZee** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:02 pm

Thanks Holt, will do.

RZ

Redinight · Post by **Redinight** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:58 am

I would never want cotton sleeves, the satin is so rich and fancy feeling

It's sooooo comfy.

I don't have the problem of the satin sticking out, however I notice the cotton sticking out on the right near my gut and it sticks out on the left but the storm flap covers it up. It's because of the inside pockets. The leather pocket opening pushes it out, but only by a centimeter at most. Now, I can't remember inside pockets are accurate of not... It's really no big deal to me, and I find it functional to have these pockets.

Indiana Joyce · Post by **Indiana Joyce** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:14 pm

Kt Templar wrote:Joyce was yours a LC/CS or a Raiders?

Last Crusade Novapelle, custom size because Im a monster like Pat Roach.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:27 pm

Indiana Joyce wrote:
Kt Templar wrote:Joyce was yours a LC/CS or a Raiders?
Last Crusade Novapelle, custom size because Im a monster like Pat Roach.

The Last Crusade jacket should have D-Rings and a brass zipper.