Keppler whips

Mulceber · Post by **Mulceber** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:34 pm

I'm curious, how good are the Lee Keppler whips, they look kinda like those whips that you see on eBay all the time (if you see this Lee, I'm sorry) So are they good? :junior: -IJ

cliffhanger · Post by **cliffhanger** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:20 pm

Check out this thread: http://www.indygear.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=965

and this one: http://www.indygear.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3925

Peace,
Cliff

Mulceber · Post by **Mulceber** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:25 pm

Cliffhanger, thanks alot! This review was really helpful. Being a newby to whips, I didn't want to go out and spend $500 for a 6-footer, when it wouldn't be too long before I'd need a longer one. I'll try to post pics of it when I get it. :junior: -IJ

cliffhanger · Post by **cliffhanger** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:29 pm

I agree...my one lacking gear piece is a decent whip. Search COW for threads on New Braunfelds's (sp?) whip ($39 for an 8 footer!). I too really like Lee's whip, especially since he added a wrist loop.

Peace,
Cliff

jerryrwm · Post by **jerryrwm** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:50 pm

IndianaJones wrote:Cliffhanger, thanks alot! This review was really helpful. Being a newby to whips, I didn't want to go out and spend $500 for a 6-footer, when it wouldn't be too long before I'd need a longer one. I'll try to post pics of it when I get it. :junior: -IJ

Okay, not to pick on anyone, but when does one determine that they need a longer whip? Other than cracking a lot further out in from of you (or behind you) what can you do with a longer whip that you can't do with a 6' or 8'?

The 6' and 8' are undoubtably the easiest to learn on, but I would bet that they are the most often used even when there are 10', 12' and longer whips available. The "go to" whip is the one that you would feel most comfortable with for what ever type of cracking you are doing. Target cutting, multiple crack routines, whatever - 90% of the time the standard whips 8' and under are most often grabbed.

Anyway - when does one "need" a longer whip?

Jerry R

Mulceber · Post by **Mulceber** » Sun Oct 12, 2003 9:18 pm

Well, you don't "need a longer whip", but it's good to get one when you're perfectly comfortable using the one you're currently using. :junior: -IJ

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:08 am

Jerry,
I most definitely agree with you. I have been saying this for as long as I can remember. My first bullwhips were in the 10 foot length. My skillset went up tremendously after I added a 6 and 8 footer. Folks, you can go on buying long whips, but at least buy the shorter lengths first to get that important skillset. After that you can appreciate cracking the longer ones.

I just hope that this answer gets read before it gets asked again, and again.. The <search> button must be broken.

-Sergei

cliffhanger · Post by **cliffhanger** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:27 am

Sergei wrote:I just hope that this answer gets read before it gets asked again, and again.. The <search> button must be broken.

-Sergei

I agree...not to pick on ANYONE here, but I am becoming increasingly annoyed with the SAME questions being asked again and again. The search is a wonderful tool (ahem).

Peace,
Cliffhanger

Mulceber · Post by **Mulceber** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:56 pm

Okay, okay. From now on, I'll do a search first. :junior: -IJ

cliffhanger · Post by **cliffhanger** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:27 pm

IJ, I didn't mean to sound like I was picking on you. Your question was fine...I just hope that folks see this whole thread for future reference. That, and it's a Monday :evil: .

Peace (and I do mean peace),
Cliff

Mulceber · Post by **Mulceber** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:02 pm

Okay, thanks. :junior: -IJ

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:31 pm

....but back to your question, yes, Lee's whips are fine starter whips. They're cowhide, and pretty well balanced. I agree with the 'shorter is better' to start out with, as I started ou with a 10 and 12 footer, and haven't changed all these years. I've seen more done lately with 6 and 8 footers that boggle my mind (and I'm at the age that can be hazardous to my health!

). For the money, they're WAY ahead of the junk you can find on eBay. I'd recommend the if you don't have the dole to go after a high end 'roo whip. Regards. Michaelson

cliffhanger · Post by **cliffhanger** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:47 pm

Well said, and if you DO get one, I'd like to see more pics of the Keppler myself. Keep us updated.

Peace,
Cliffhanger

Mulceber · Post by **Mulceber** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:13 pm

Ok, I'll be sure to do that. I won't be getting it until Christmas though (that's assuming my parents WILL get it for me) :junior: -IJ

falconau · Post by **falconau** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:34 pm

If you want a Keppler whip for Christmas, I suggest you order it now. I still haven't seen mine and I placed the order some months ago.

jerryrwm · Post by **jerryrwm** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:04 am

Michaelson wrote:... . For the money, they're WAY ahead of the junk you can find on eBay. I'd recommend the if you don't have the dole to go after a high end 'roo whip. Regards. Michaelson

My friend, please don't limp all the whips on ebay as junk. I have seen quite number of Morgan's, EC Whips, Murphy, Peter Jack, EM Brand, J Strain, plus a number of other lesser known whipmakers such as D Bright from Abilene, D Schrag of Missouri, S Blanton from Georgia, A Winrich from Wisconsin, and even a few Rasmussen whips (those would be mine).

More than once I have seen posted on this forum that the whips one buys from ebay are junk. Well you can get junk if you are not careful. You need to know what you are looking at, and also stop trying to buy that 8' Morgan for $50.00. You will pay a fair price if you are an astute shopper. I bought a Chris Barr stockwhip at a real good price, mainly because not many people over here know who he is. But, like anything else, you need to do your research, because there are a number of jerks out there that will take you to the cleaners.

So, please, don't lump all ebay whip sellers in with the junk that is out there.

My two cents worth on this matter,

Jerry Rasmussen

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:05 pm

Jerry, please don't take my comment out of context. If you'll read the entire last sentence, I specifically list the 'roo whips as higher end, and just about every one of the names YOU list only MAKE 'roo whips. Folks can pretty much tell what is junk and what is not on eBay, especially if you're seeking a quality whip, ESPECIALLY if you take the price into accout. You're not going to purchase a decent whip, even a good cowhide, for $50, unless, as you pointed out, the individual selling it either doens't know what they have, or really doesn't care. The adage 'if it seems to good to be true, it probably is' reigns supreme on eBay, and is really good advice to follow when dealing with online auctions. I know, as I've had an active account as buyer/seller since 1998, and seen a LOT of junk come and go trying to represent itself as quality. I have not 'lumped' anybody with anything. By the way, from what I believe I understand from your comment above, are you a whip vendor? Regards. Michaelson

Mulceber · Post by **Mulceber** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 4:03 pm

If you want a Keppler whip for Christmas, I suggest you order it now. I still haven't seen mine and I
placed the order some months ago.

I would, but my printer won't work (go figure), and I think it would be easier to convince my family to go for it if the Whip gets presented along side a few other items. Basically it takes a bit of the attention away from the whip. :junior: -IJ

Robert Duke · Post by **Robert Duke** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:28 pm

Michaelson wrote:Jerry, are you a whip vendor? Regards. Michaelson

I'd say he is and quite a good one.

Regarding the "Search advice" I would be in the ignorant category. I don't get on COW very often and if I do it's only usually here in the "Bullwhip" forum.

Also regarding the 10 & 12 ft range of whips which many people order.
As a novice whipcracker don't do it. I agree with Michaelson you'd get a lot more done with that 6 or 8 footer. Once you do get a "collection" of sizes and makers, you will most often go back to the 6 and 8 ft range for most play. I have a 14 footer I use that I do at gigs because it's very loud and so long that iget s a lot of attention. It's the attention getter. You get a couple of cracks out of it throwing a few sidearm cracks and then it's time to show off more with the 8, and then finally to do some targets with a 6 footer with a volunteer holding spaghetti.

Once you spend a chunk of change on a kangaroo whip, you will never regret it and then want more of them in different sizes. If you buy a cowhide whip, you will think, ah, so so. Believe me you'll really love cracking a roo whip.

eBay whip sellers...... ah... the majority by far are junk. You have to know what you are looking for. Most novice buyers wouldn't know. All the whipmakers on COW would know. Or most of them should. Ask one in private with a link to the whip you're interested in on ebay, and am sure they'd give you good advice.

Keep on cracking a smile,
Robert Duke

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:43 pm

So I found out with a very nice email I received from Jerry this morning. (grins) Regards. Michaelson

chad · Post by **chad** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:43 am

I ordered my lee keppler 8 ft bullwhip three months ago. I called lee yesterday and he told me it would be in 3 to 5 days.