question about horsehide from wested.

bullet08 · Post by **bullet08** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:52 am

so i have been wearing my wested horsehide raider everyday since i got it.. about 2 and a half week or so.. i put pecard on it after first week. the jacket is nice and soft. almost too soft. it's nothing like what i have heard about horsehide. my cowhide perfrecto from 80's is still much more stiff than this horsehide.

what i'm wondering is when does the grain pop in? i have ton of tiny grains all over the jacket. but i'm not getting big grain that i have seen on some of the pix on the forum. i don't want to run a bath on this jacket since i don't want it to shrink in anyway, and i don't care too much for distressed look. just want to see some nice big grains popping out.

pete

Holt · Post by **Holt** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:04 am

dont expect the grain to pop upin 2 and a half weeks.

its horsehide,it will come eventualley,but not in such short time.

but a good soak wont hurt the jacket if you let it airdry in normal room temp..

airdry to about 90% dry and then start wearing the jacket,at first it turns out really stiff,but a little more wear after that and you have the softness back pluss alot of grain.

Baldwyn · Post by **Baldwyn** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:52 pm

The water trick really does work. I don't know if my jacket counts as having big grain, but you can judge for yourself (I posted the pics on your last topic). I didn't "soak" mine. Just put it into a sink full of cold water, for maybe a minute? Threw it on, wore it until dry (which didn't take too long because it wasn't soaked), with some scrunching in there. The body hasn't shortened. The sleeves have but that's mostly from the arm wrinkles. Start off small and conservative, and I think you'll be fine.

Otherwise, I think you'll either have to be very patient (I mean, months to years). Which I think is cool too!

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:56 pm

The grain popping out is like a reward for wearing it.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:53 pm

crismans wrote:The grain popping out is like a reward for wearing it.

Most of us call those wrinkles, and believe me, we don't see them as rewards as we get older.

Oh, you were talking about the jackets, weren't you?

Regards! Michaelson

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:42 pm

Michaelson wrote:Most of us call those wrinkles, and believe me, we don't see them as rewards as we get older.

Low on your personal supply of Pecards, Michaelson? ;-)

Hatch · Post by **Hatch** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:47 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:
Michaelson wrote:Most of us call those wrinkles, and believe me, we don't see them as rewards as we get older.
Low on your personal supply of Pecards, Michaelson? ;-)

I prefer to refer to it has "grain and patina"

Louisiana Jones · Post by **Louisiana Jones** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:08 pm

bullet08 wrote:.... it's nothing like what i have heard about horsehide. my cowhide perfrecto from 80's is still much more stiff than this horsehide.

Yo Bullet.. Like you I had a Schott Perfecto and some other moto jackets before ever purchasing a Wested in HH. And like you I was a bit shocked at how soft and supple Wested's HH is.. I had to email Gemma to confirm they actually gave me horse! If you're used to motorcycle leathers then I think any Wested you get will be surprisingly soft. I read a lot of posts on here about the HH being so stiff and was let down when I actually got mine.

As for the grain poppage (is that a word?), I wore mine for around 8 months before some sections of the jacket were graining up like good ol' HH, but on the whole when compared to my Schott or Lost Worlds HH the Wested had very little grain.

Now my Novapelle jacket is a different story.. it's graining up like crazy.. if I saw pictures alone I would bet money that it was horse.. it's not graining like a cowhide.. it's such a nice leather.

LJ

Imahomer · Post by **Imahomer** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:14 pm

Interesting stuff. I've already decided that when I get my wested, it will be HH. No two ways about it.

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:39 pm

I love my Horsehide Wested and there is something certainly to be said for getting it measured by Peter personally, as he did for me on the QM. It has conformed to my shape perfectly.

It's not too terribly wrinkled though. I has remained pristine. My lambskin on the other hand...

Holt · Post by **Holt** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:49 pm

hey hem.care to show us some pictures of your horsey?

I remeber the pictures of when it was new.I would llike to see how it looks today

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:00 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:hey hem.care to show us some pictures of your horsey?

I remeber the pictures of when it was new.I would llike to see how it looks today

Sure. I'll break it out soon.

WhipDude · Post by **WhipDude** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:54 am

That will be nice to see. I wonder how horse looks after lots of wear such was the type of tones it takes on.

Heyjude7 · Post by **Heyjude7** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:09 am

Whats the color like in real life and hows the drape? all i have ever owned is goat and a vanson X1 , which i think is heavy heavy cow
it seems that all the HH pic on here have a red/purple hue to it

Holt · Post by **Holt** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:15 am

yes it does, just like I told you in the pm's yesterday ;-)

its a great winter jacket.in the spring,summer and fall I would have lamb or goat. becasue the HH is heavy,there is no escaping that.you wont forget you are wearing it. but it will go pretty soft all around,but still stiffer and heavier the goat.

but the HH is really durable and will probably outlast you.you dont have to worrie when wearing it.

bullet08 · Post by **bullet08** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:20 am

Heyjude7 wrote:Whats the color like in real life and hows the drape? all i have ever owned is goat and a vanson X1 , which i think is heavy heavy cow
it seems that all the HH pic on here have a red/purple hue to it

i'm considered colour blind by my eye doc. i can tell the colours apart and know what is what, but not very good at naming what they are. and can't never read the darn dots on that crazy charts. best i can tell is that the colour is dark brown. underside of the top of the leather from the sample that came is also brown.

the leather is about 1.5mm thick. and testing it with pecard leather dressing, it goes to the other side within 24 hrs.

as to the weight, it's much lighter than cowhide perfecto that i have. but it's heavier than lambskin A-2 i had back in 80's. also somewhat heavier than goatskin i had sometime ago.

i think it drapes nice, but i'm not going for SA look or anything, so not sure what the standard is in this forum.

pete

Heyjude7 · Post by **Heyjude7** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:48 pm

hey Holt i wasnt not takin your advice, i was just seeing what others thought about HH..
i have a vanson X1 and its stiff! i dont know what type of leather it is... i bought it from Indy Magnoli last year... it feels like it will never break in..
hopefully its not HH.. i do want to get a HH Wested though to see what its like

Russian Raider · Post by **Russian Raider** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:10 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:its a great winter jacket.in the spring,summer and fall I would have lamb or goat. becasue the HH is heavy,there is no escaping that.you wont forget you are wearing it. but it will go pretty soft all around,but still stiffer and heavier the goat.

You know, maybe Wested HH is The heavy among the other Wested hides but it is less heavy than my old faux leather jacket. Now that was a hard to wear thing. Wested HH is much thinner and its been almost a week of me wearing it, hide already start to feel softer, it even drapes a little different now. But jacket is really strong and durable, it sure looks and feels solid. About weather conditions. you know, it is not a winter jacket in ususal sence, but with a bit of layering it will do just fine. Last weekend was really cold, about -20 C, i was walking with my dog late and jacket was making sounds as i go, leather was like - krk,krk. Then i got back home and my wife looked at me and said, my god, your jacket is shrinking. As i think leather is breathing and because of the cold it shrunk a little, but after some nice warm evening in a closet everything was back to normal. It is too bad i forgot to ask Gemma to send me samples of different hides, now i am thinking about buying Novapelle jacket.

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