New 8ft Nylon Indy Style bullwhip

classicbullwhips · Post by **classicbullwhips** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:42 am

Hey all it's been some time since my last post but I thought I would show one of my new nylon whips that I just completed. These are considered my Version 2 whips, kind of like the one I sent BullWhipBorton a while ago (his being Version 1.5) After his review of the demo whip I sent him he gave me some improvement tips and they are now incorporated into this new version. One of the big things that I am excited about is the new and improved patented twisted nylon fall. This fall is thicker then the traditional nylon falls and it reacts more closer to a leather one. I also improved how it attaches to the thong of the whip so that there is no more fear of it coming unattached (A problem that came up with BullWhipBorton's demo whip) 110% better attachment. Also there are small improvements in the whip like better handle to thong binding transition so the whip crack more effortlessly, and a great new tan color for these style of whips better then just the brown that I had before. Let me know what you guys think of the New Version 2 Indy Style Nylon Bullwhip.

Keep Crackin
James

myrddin · Post by **myrddin** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:53 am

Nice looking whip. Looks beefy in all the right places. You should post a video of it in action.

Is the nylon color silver or grey?

classicbullwhips · Post by **classicbullwhips** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:59 am

The color for the whip pictures is actually Tan my camera and the lighting may make it look a little different then it actually is.

myrddin · Post by **myrddin** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:58 am

Heh. Stupid laptop monitor. It completely looks light grey from here.

rjallen70 · Post by **rjallen70** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:04 am

Sweet looking nylon whip!
It looks gray to me too...but It is the flash. Mine look that way some times too.
Ron

tomek9210 · Post by **tomek9210** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:14 am

Hi, very nice whip! How about guts of this whip? Two bellies inside? What is the core made from?

classicbullwhips · Post by **classicbullwhips** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:24 am

Yep it has two bellies inside, first a 8plait, second a 12 plait, and the overlay 16 plait. The core is a hollow piece of paracord that is filled with steal shot (bb's) for the correct weight and then is bound to the tip of the 8in spring steal handle. Then I use ducktape as kind of a bolster since it has cloth fibers that run through it and it also helps to keep moisture from the inside core (it also helps to stiffen up this part so it is not so limp.) I bind it again before I put on the first belly.

WhipDude · Post by **WhipDude** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:40 am

Wow, the 1st nylon whip I've ever seen that looks like an Indy whip. The handle is thicker which I like and it looks great. I'd REALLY like to see how this whip handles. Somebody is going to have to buy one and give a review or something.

Herr Jones · Post by **Herr Jones** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:40 am

Looks nice . . . I've been interested in making a nylon whip for some time due to its durability. Though, making the core seems like a lot more work compared to a leather one. Have you tried or heard of anyone making a sort of hybrid whip? One that has a leather core, leather first and second plait, then the nylon overlay?

rjallen70 · Post by **rjallen70** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:23 am

The leather core would somewhat negate the all-terrain/all weather aspect of the nylon whip. But... you could certainly do it and as a whip it would work just fine. IMHO
Ron

classicbullwhips · Post by **classicbullwhips** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:06 pm

To answer a few people questions that they had;

WhipDude, this whip handles amazing it has been my goal from the beginning of making nylon whips about 7 years ago to make them look and handle as close to the more expensive kangaroo hide whip as I can. I sent BullWhipBorton a demo whip of the previous version (1.5) and he wrote up a review and posted in the bullwhip section. He also gave me a few improvement tips that I have added to this new version (2.0) of whips . He was very happy with the way it turned out and told me that it is the best nylon bullwhip he has ever used.

Herr Jones, actually the inter core of a nylon whip is not that hard at all, (I think that it is if not easier then a leather whip. (I make both leather and nylon) You could use leather on the inside but as rjallen70 said whats the point of the all-terrain/all weather aspect. Another problem that you would have to work out is the thickness of the whip with leather instead of nylon, it may take a few times to get it right. I have heard many people recently talking about wanting to learn how to make whips, there are a few good sources out there but nothing that really teaches you all to well (I personally am a visual learner and just a few pictures with a long description of what to do confuses even me) I have been thinking for a long time of putting out a Nylon Bullwhip Kit that has almost everything that you need to make a nylon bullwhip, It also would come with a DVD made my me going throught all the steps that you need to transform the material into a functional Indy style bullwhip. I am hope to have this at a reasonable price. If anyone is interested let me know and I will see if it is worth putting together to offer.

Hope that answered everyones question, Please feel free to ask more if you have any always happy to answer.

Keep Crackin
James Emery

tomek9210 · Post by **tomek9210** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:06 pm

How much it weigh? My 8ft nylon bullwhips weigh about 0,5 kg. Could you make a video with this whip?

Post by **BullWhipBorton** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:33 am

Not bad James, It looks like the improvements you went with, worked out very well. Good work.

The version 1.5 I have is a really nice nylon whip, its gotten a lot of complements on the way it performs, though it is a bit light for some. I think with the modifications he has made tp the new versions they will be all that much better.

Dan

Alkali Jones · Post by **Alkali Jones** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:58 am

Hey All,

James, it looks great, and, I think that's my whip (or at least one very like it!). I contacted James after Bullwhip Borton's review. My previous experience with a whip was an eight foot Aussi 'roo hide stock whip many years ago. I'll let you all know about it when it arrives. I can hardly wait.

Dan S

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:04 am

Great looking whip James!

Do they also come in a brown?

Cheers!

Dan

classicbullwhips · Post by **classicbullwhips** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:36 am

Yes Dan S. it is your whip, sorry for the long delay of sending it out to you (I have been taking many pictures of it for my new website coming out and yours is going to be the model whip for my version 2.0 indy nylon whips) Beautiful whip and as the proud maker I am sad to see it go

(will be in the mail tomorrow) Hope you all enjoy it.

And yes I do offer the nylon Indy style in brown and the tan as shown.

Keep Crackin,

James Emery

Alkali Jones · Post by **Alkali Jones** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:14 pm

Hey All,

It's here! Pictures just don't seem to be able to capture the color of this whip. All I can say is I like it. The last time I played with a whip was in the mid eighties. It was an eight foot stock whip, in 'roo, from Australia. I had no idea what could be done with a whip at that time, so all I could do was an overhead crack, and a side arm crack from off the grass. Therefore, it's all I can still do!

I got a tracking number from Mr. Emery, so it was fun to watch it make it's way to the Chicagoland area. The whip looks well made. The rows of plaiting are straight the full length of the whip. Maybe as straight as that old 'roo whip (yes, I still have it, but I let it deteriorate over the years, so it's... "retired"

) but really, very neat. James told me after Bullwhip Borton's whip he changed the fall attachment and it looks sturdy as well. The wrist loop is quite nice looking also, very flat and even. The Turk's head knots look very Indy (Morgan), too. It came with several poppers besides the one mounted on the whip.

How does it crack? Well, let me tell you, it's cold out here, maybe fourteen or fifteen degrees. I got my coat and on the first try realized: It's really cold out here. But, I kept at it and in three tries, it spoke! That's my technique, not the whip! I was out on my gravel driveway that's under three inches of snow. The overhead crack still works, the left handed overhead works, the side arm still works, the left handed side arm, well, I'll keep practicing for that. Then my son steps outside to try it. He's a naturual. (Did I mention it was cold?) It was time to go in.

Thanks James, I'm really enjoying this whip already. Oh, and the first thing my son says when he sees what's in the package: "Pa, are you going to swing on that?"

Dan S

Indy1024 · Post by **Indy1024** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:10 pm

Beautiful!
Great work!