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After seeing this post & the great-looking jacket, I was very interested in getting one. But I emailed Peter to ask if I could order a 40R with the only mods being a higher yoke seam and a tapered back panel, as they do on the 80's fitted jackets. This is the response I got:
Dear Jace,
I have spoken to Peter and he said we are very sorry but we are unable to alter the back panal and the yoke as you have requested.
Sorry for any disappointment caused.
Cheers Gemma
Is there a reason that they cannot do this on the ToD jackets? I would think that with it being their highest-priced cusomizeable Indy jacket, that only 2 modifications should be a breeze. I mean, I've seen some of the 3 page long spec sheets some of us here have sent to them, not to mention that my off-the-peg 40R in washed goat came with the higher yoke seem without a request for it. I think I may have to just pony-up the extra cash and order the G&B...what a let-down...
~Jace
Dear Jace,
I have spoken to Peter and he said we are very sorry but we are unable to alter the back panal and the yoke as you have requested.
Sorry for any disappointment caused.
Cheers Gemma
Is there a reason that they cannot do this on the ToD jackets? I would think that with it being their highest-priced cusomizeable Indy jacket, that only 2 modifications should be a breeze. I mean, I've seen some of the 3 page long spec sheets some of us here have sent to them, not to mention that my off-the-peg 40R in washed goat came with the higher yoke seem without a request for it. I think I may have to just pony-up the extra cash and order the G&B...what a let-down...
~Jace
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Is there a reason that they cannot do this on the ToD jackets? I would think that with it being their highest-priced cusomizeable Indy jacket, that only 2 modifications should be a breeze. I mean, I've seen some of the 3 page long spec sheets some of us here have sent to them, not to mention that my off-the-peg 40R in washed goat came with the higher yoke seem without a request for it. I think I may have to just pony-up the extra cash and order the G&B...what a let-down...
Reason that they cannot do this? Because it's basically changing the entire design and pattern of that jacket. If you want the higher yoke just order a Raiders and ask for smaller pockets.
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It's also missing a stitch on the one (right) side of the vent. You can see the stitch coming out in the second photo.they are very different.that stitch shouldnt be there...in this way I think the vent wont stay open like the film jacket does.....
I also mentioned on page one that the top of the storm flap is rounded off where the original clearly shows it very squared off. It would be best for Peter to get the kinks out now before he starts shipping more. I'm just curious how these slipped when they should be incorporated in the patterns made from the original?
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I know, KT. Peter just has to begin to know the differences between all of the jackets. However, I thought there were patterns drawn up for this particular jacket and the squared off top would be in the cut. I just hope that he doesn't go in reverse and begin to go back to doing the Raiders jackets squared off seeing as he just got ahold of the correct rounded off Raiders storm flap.The rounded top is your legacy A5, the machinists have had it drummed into them, "round top" "ROUND TOP". LOL
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I'm sure it's being addressed, I noticed it on a jacket last weekend and pointed it out to him. (Yup, I wandered over there last weekend!). The square part is cut in the leather, but the machinist can/will round off, if they think it's supposed to be like that!agent5 wrote:I know, KT. Peter just has to begin to know the differences between all of the jackets. However, I thought there were patterns drawn up for this particular jacket and the squared off top would be in the cut. I just hope that he doesn't go in reverse and begin to go back to doing the Raiders jackets squared off seeing as he just got ahold of the correct rounded off Raiders storm flap.The rounded top is your legacy A5, the machinists have had it drummed into them, "round top" "ROUND TOP". LOL
I think the 2 reference pics you just posted of the TOD stormflap are 2 different jackets. Both are squared. But different jackets.
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minus the low yoke and smaller pockets, this side vent configuration is one of the major things that sets this jacket apart from all the other ones. the design is totally different as to how the back panel mates to the side panels. it seems there are some 'raiders/LC' influences here that should not come into play. i hope this can be addressed in the future.agent5 wrote:There seems to be a slight difference in the construction of the side vents. KT, can you shine a little light on this one? If Peter had the jacket in hand I'm pretty curious how it could or should be any different than the original jacket.
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It's 'slightly' rounded. As you know the original was pretty mashed, but the pattern parts have a squared of top to the storm flap.RCSignals wrote:KT did the proto have the squared or rounded collar stand end at the storm flap top?Kt Templar wrote:That's interesting! I'll point him at the pics. The proto was made like Trons.
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This is what Peter said:
http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?t ... &start=350PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:36 am Post subject: Reply with quote
The jacket and shirt pattern is done, but the jacket is constructed in a strange way with built in gussets and strange collar configuration.
Anyway will cut it tomorrow and we will see.
Also have bought all the NH stock which I should have next week.
Cheers
Peter
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He's tried to explain that to me on a couple of occasions. There are not gussets in the conventional sense. I think the way the sleeve is cut gives more room under the pit (and no, it does not cause squirrellage!). Hence the "built in gusset." There is no gusset line visible.RCSignals wrote:This is what Peter said:
http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?t ... &start=350PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:36 am Post subject: Reply with quote
The jacket and shirt pattern is done, but the jacket is constructed in a strange way with built in gussets and strange collar configuration.
Anyway will cut it tomorrow and we will see.
Also have bought all the NH stock which I should have next week.
Cheers
Peter
And the collar is constructed differently too, anyone spotted how yet?
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With regards to Gussets the underarm panel of the sleeve has been extended to form the shape of a gusset therefore providing extra movement without the need for a gusset. Very clever.
The collar differs from all others as there is no collar stand as such.
The collar and stand are cut in one piece although there is a stand underneath.
Someone ask to taper the back. The back panel is already tapered making the jacket slimmer.
I am making slight corrections to the side vent and collar stand edge but approx 20 have been finished and already despatched.
We are still waiting on washed goatskin arriving Friday and the size 38, 48 & 50 pattern which will be done this Saturday and made next week.
Please be patient
Cheers
Peter
The collar differs from all others as there is no collar stand as such.
The collar and stand are cut in one piece although there is a stand underneath.
Someone ask to taper the back. The back panel is already tapered making the jacket slimmer.
I am making slight corrections to the side vent and collar stand edge but approx 20 have been finished and already despatched.
We are still waiting on washed goatskin arriving Friday and the size 38, 48 & 50 pattern which will be done this Saturday and made next week.
Please be patient
Cheers
Peter
Thanks for the feedback, Peter, much appreciated. Interesting how this design tries to "hide" gussets and collar stands.PETER wrote:With regards to Gussets the underarm panel of the sleeve has been extended to form the shape of a gusset therefore providing extra movement without the need for a gusset. Very clever.
The collar differs from all others as there is no collar stand as such.
The collar and stand are cut in one piece although there is a stand underneath.
Someone ask to taper the back. The back panel is already tapered making the jacket slimmer.
I am making slight corrections to the side vent and collar stand edge but approx 20 have been finished and already despatched.
We are still waiting on washed goatskin arriving Friday and the size 38, 48 & 50 pattern which will be done this Saturday and made next week.
Please be patient
Cheers
Peter