How to add reverse taper?

Carolina Tom · Post by **Carolina Tom** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:29 am

I like light bulb effect of the CS hat. Is there a way to add a little reverse taper at home to a straight sided hat or done this have to be done when the hat is blocked? Thanks-Carolina Tom

Dutch_jones · Post by **Dutch_jones** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:36 am

On the CS hat it was in the block, on the raiders it was an effect created by beating/ sitting on the hat.

squidkidd · Post by **squidkidd** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:12 pm

If your hat/head allows it, try pushing your center crease a little deeper in the back, that might work for you.

Regards,
Brian

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:41 pm

Dutch_jones wrote:On the CS hat it was in the block, on the raiders it was an effect created by beating/ sitting on the hat.

I think your wrong on this.

Dutch_jones · Post by **Dutch_jones** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:42 pm

BendingOak wrote:
Dutch_jones wrote:On the CS hat it was in the block, on the raiders it was an effect created by beating/ sitting on the hat.

I think your wrong on this.

which of the two?

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:41 pm

I'm sorry, reverse tapper on the CS block.

Dutch_jones · Post by **Dutch_jones** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:15 pm

BendingOak wrote:I'm sorry, reverse tapper on the CS block.

Oh yeah sorry I might be mistakin on that But I was always under the impression the AB block had that built in! lol

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:20 pm

No not at all.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:23 pm

No, Dutch, the AB block does not have any reverse taper built into it. I asked Steve about this not too long ago and he told me that reverse taper built into the block does not work and he doesn't have any blocks like that.

Dave

Last Crusader · Post by **Last Crusader** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:42 pm

I think the best way to get a decent reverse taper into a hat is to wear a gegular oval hat on a long oval head. I have a long oval myself and I only wear regular oval hats for the reverse taper

You can see how a hat reacts on a long head by putting your hands into the hat and stretching the hat slightly to the front and back. You will see how the crown begins to reverse taper.

In case you do not have a long head the only way to get reverse taper is to turn the hat.

Zombie Jones · Post by **Zombie Jones** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:58 pm

Last Crusader wrote:In case you do not have a long head the only way to get reverse taper is to turn the hat.

This is not entirely true. I have a regular oval head, and I was able to achieve a degree of reverse taper (when viewed from the front) by simply extending the side dents toward the back of the crown either to or just past the midway point.

3thoubucks · Post by **3thoubucks** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:05 am

I took this picture a couple weeks ago. My head is taller than Ford's. If I pull my hat down to the top of my ears I get a bump -and a light bulb, like the truck explosion hat. Remember, Ford crossed his arms over his head in that shot and mashed the top of the crown a bit. (I can get a bump, and not just push up the crease because I've sanded the felt very thin.) Since this is how I like to wear my hat, I've got the lightbulb most of the time.

Last Crusader · Post by **Last Crusader** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:28 am

Zombie Jones wrote:
Last Crusader wrote:In case you do not have a long head the only way to get reverse taper is to turn the hat.
This is not entirely true. I have a regular oval head, and I was able to achieve a degree of reverse taper (when viewed from the front) by simply extending the side dents toward the back of the crown either to or just past the midway point.

Sure you can do that but does the hat still look good to you? Personally I don´t like when the dents extend that far to the back.
It´s kind of a cheated reverse taper for me.

;-)

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:44 am

Personally I don´t like when the dents extend that far to the back.
It´s kind of a cheated reverse taper for me.

You know, on the CS hat, the look of it is pretty square when the front creaes are pushed back from 4 to 4 1/2 inches in length. And, that is how we creased the hats that we sent in. Bernie, wanted more of a LC look, and pushed the creases back to 5 inches, which gives some of the hats a bit of taper. So, he tapered some of the hats, by doing the longer crease. So, on the CS block, if you push the creases back to 5 inches, you get a more tapered look. Keep em short and the hat is square. This is why this block works really well for a Raiders look. You just have to crease the top deeper to pull it off. So, if you are like me, and get tired of the CS look, rebash it into the Raiders fedora(be sure to turn the hat) and I think most would be satisfied with what it lends. Fedora

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:47 pm

So, if you are like me, and get tired of the CS look

Funny that the original maker of the CS hat is tired of the look, but I suppose I would be too if I made them everyday. But you're doing a great job Steve, and we all love you for it.

Zombie Jones · Post by **Zombie Jones** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:15 am

Last Crusader wrote:
Zombie Jones wrote:
Last Crusader wrote:In case you do not have a long head the only way to get reverse taper is to turn the hat.
This is not entirely true. I have a regular oval head, and I was able to achieve a degree of reverse taper (when viewed from the front) by simply extending the side dents toward the back of the crown either to or just past the midway point.
Sure you can do that but does the hat still look good to you? Personally I don´t like when the dents extend that far to the back.
It´s kind of a cheated reverse taper for me. ;-)

Actually, yes, I think my hat looks great; I don't see much difference between my Fed IV and the hat(s) Ford wore in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. But then, I don't particularly like Fedoras with a "short" side bash (front to back, that is)...not for me, anyway.

Additionally, that's one of the things I like most about Fedoras--the style, the bash, the shape of the brim--each one is unique to it's owner/wearer and reflects that person's tastes.