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blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:54 am

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:14 pm

New pic today

When I was bashing it yesterday I kept looking at it from the side and thinking why the heck is the front so straight up and down? Where is the classic slant I always see.. but it's only from when seen from an angle

Chiliana Jones · Post by **Chiliana Jones** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:52 pm

lpa53 wrote:Just took this pic of my new Carbon Grey Fed IV - on my head rather than my hand.

I'll watch the DC scenes of Raiders this weekend and maybe tweak the bash. To get a sharper pinch (if I want it) should I steam it and maybe use clothes pins?

It's sooo comfortable, but darn ...

am I really that old?

is that really your Carbon Grey hat? i probably going to be hanged for mentioning this but: your hat looks brown in that picture if my eyes dont trick me. if it really is your carbon grey, then i was right. the grey hat indy wore is Carbon grey, not "closer to moonstone" as some say. here is the proof. the carbon grey "changes" color depending on the lightning.

(man did i really say this, HERE?? maybe i should hire a bodyguard

)

by the way, that's a sweet hat lpa53. suits you well.

CJ

Vegeta · Post by **Vegeta** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:08 pm

Cammer wrote:
Vegeta wrote: Thanks!! I'm in St. Pete
Very cool. I'm in Seminole. We should hit Knight's Shooting Sports sometime while wearing our feds.

Sounds good to me bro

ronkiyo · Post by **ronkiyo** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:32 am

Finally, I'm gonna be part of the thread.

I want to read your opinions about my bash. I'm trying to get a crystal skull bash, I believe.

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Carbon grey, coming soon...

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:35 am

your um, bubbles.. are too big I think
try confining them to the upper part

Zombie Jones · Post by **Zombie Jones** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:53 am

ronkiyo wrote:I want to read your opinions about my bash. I'm trying to get a crystal skull bash, I believe.

blueoakleyz wrote:your um, bubbles.. are too big I think
try confining them to the upper part

I concur. If you're going for an exact match to the Crystal Skull bash, IMO the lowest part of the side dents should end just above the ribbon. Also, the side dents should extend more towards the rear of the crown, a bit past the center of the bow.

However--if you're simply trying to achieve a bash that's similar to the Crystal Skull bash and looks good, I think you've succeeded! Me, I like your bash the way it is.

ronkiyo · Post by **ronkiyo** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:33 am

Thanks for the comments. I will improve my bash.

Tennessee Steinmetz · Post by **Tennessee Steinmetz** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:28 pm

Here's mine so far - just arrived yesterday, so I haven't had much time to do much with it:

The sides were a bit too deep, so I worked on that just a bit after I took this picture. I think the look I'm going for is CS. Somewhat, at least. Maybe make it my own look just a bit as well. Gotta work on the front of the brim some more, too.

Holt · Post by **Holt** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:07 pm

that looks great!!

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:12 pm

I'm SO happy with this hat
It's perfect
It was only $70 something plus shipping for a total of like $99..
I can't honestly imagine how one more expensive could be better except teeny tiny minor details.

I think I'll buy a Magnoli HJ in the future but purely as a collectable.

When I look in the mirror I can see a tiny tiny bit of discoloration where I put water on the brim and it gives it a PERFECT distressed but still new look.

jasonalun · Post by **jasonalun** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:47 pm

Congrats on getting your hat finally, blueoakleyz! Looks great! I, too, love Last Crusade, and got this hat to be my "Last Crusade Hat." It works pretty well, I think, but I am noticing more that the crown on these Feds is actually better suited to a Raiders hat than an LC - it's too tall. The experts on here can set me straight if I'm wrong, I'm sure, but I think it needs at least about a quarter inch off the top to be a perfect SA LC hat. Well, the color isn't perfect, either, but after some sun and maybe dirt and wear, it'll lighten up to a close-to-perfect color, I think. But for the price, this is fantastic! I spent more than this on my old Stetson back in 1990 (when the $ was worth a lot more!) and my new Fed is about equal in quality to that - and an almost perfect Indy Hat to boot!

Aside : lest anyone who's seen Stetson's horrible quality in later years think I'm insulting Akubra - my Stetson is actually a pretty good quality hat. The felt is very thin and soft, and no discoloration or worn spots on it despite heavy use and inclement weather for 18 years. It does have a lot of taper, but it's hard to tell if that is more than usual because it came with a lot of taper!

twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:03 pm

Okay, guys, I finally got a chance to play with my new Fed IV today. Here's my very first bash ever. Please help! I think I'm attempting a Raiders bash. I'm having a little bit of a problem with the pinch in the front. Also, it seems taller and more "bulbous" on the left side on top. I can't seem to fix that. Any ideas of what I need to do? Thanks, all!

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Sorry for the blurry photos. I'll have to take pictures when it's light outside next time.

Cammer · Post by **Cammer** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:10 pm

:tup:

Indiana Hutch · Post by **Indiana Hutch** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:33 am

IndianaSolo wrote:http://adventure-realm.com/raidersbash.html

Best Bashing advice for a Raiders hat that I know of.

I agree, he knows what he's doing!

twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:20 am

Indiana Hutch wrote:
IndianaSolo wrote:http://adventure-realm.com/raidersbash.html

Best Bashing advice for a Raiders hat that I know of.
I agree, he knows what he's doing!

That's actually what I followed to try for the Raiders look, but it's not quite "there" yet. Any suggestions are welcomed. For instance, what exactly does "turning" mean? I've read it on several tutorial sites, but they don't explain it -- so the brim look a bit odd, too.

twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:46 pm

Got some photos of me wearing my Fed IV outside. I didn't have anyone around to help take the photos so please excuse the "screengrabs." I just stuck my flip camcorder on a tree in order to take these shots in my backyard.

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Trying to look "fierce"

Girls just wanna have fun!

Belegnole · Post by **Belegnole** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:24 pm

I am not skilled enough to be a critic but I think the hat looks good, and good on you. I am however envious of your backyard. I miss the country

Clutters · Post by **Clutters** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:46 am

Gah! I'm heading to NSW in January for a holiday and all these great shots of the Fed IV are convincing me to drop in on HatsDirect and get one!

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:46 am

Twilekjedi, Turning the hat is when you put on your hat before bashing and turn it a little (with the bow moving more to the front) to get that distinktive swoop you see in Raiders. Once you see the amount of swoop you like, mark where you would have your center dent before taking it off. Now you have an off-center center dent and you bash the hat using that.

So, basically turning your hat just means bashing it off-center to get the brim to swoop like it did in Raiders.

Regards, Geert

twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:12 am

gwyddion wrote:Twilekjedi, Turning the hat is when you put on your hat before bashing and turn it a little (with the bow moving more to the front) to get that distinktive swoop you see in Raiders. Once you see the amount of swoop you like, mark where you would have your center dent before taking it off. Now you have an off-center center dent and you bash the hat using that.

So, basically turning your hat just means bashing it off-center to get the brim to swoop like it did in Raiders.

Regards, Geert

Ahhh, thank you! Why doesn't anyone make that clear in the tutorials? Hmm, do you think it's too late to fix that now that I've already creased and bashed the thing?

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:38 am

GREAT shots of a GREAT hat, twilekjedi...

Your posts have single-handedly got me:
Re-re-re-re-RE-thinking getting a Fed IV!

(I just hope I dont re-think it again before I scrape the cash together!)

Mitch

Belegnole · Post by **Belegnole** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:23 pm

Well I got mine today and it arrived in the box that I think may have been beat up by customs. It had the kicked look but I noticed that it had been pierced by something just about the size of a pencil or sniffer tube. My friend who was on hand for the arrival was the one to come up with the idea...who knows.

Upon opening the box the hat seems to have made it generally unscathed. Just a few minor spots as evidence that it came as far as it did. When first tried on it was large but after one foam strip and 15 minutes it is already fitting much better. Though I am already sure that I will keep this hat there are a few nit picks which I have. The first thing I noticed was that the ribbon was sitting up off of the brim and that the brake was uneven around the hat. I have noted that it seems common in the pictures here that the break is slow instead of an abrupt 90 degree angle. Another thing was that when I looked inside or at the underside of the hat the liner, sweat band and brim do not line up. Imagine if you will 3 ovals all turned a bit off from each other the brim also is not square with the sweatband and so the widest point is not were you would expect it to be. I know some may think I'm being super picky but I have been a jeweler fro 20 years and I am picker with my things. I also didn't have to look hard at all to see any of this....of course in pictures it is harder to see. Anyway these things should just add character to the piece and considering the demand/cost/manufacturing technique I am not griping just pointing out a few things... ;-)
btw, Can anyone assist me in what would be the best way to get rid of the bend in the ribbon? It's just bugging me..

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twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:19 am

Yeesh, that's some gash in that box! What, did they drop-kick your package to your door? Glad your hat survived that. That was pretty quick shipping, though, if you ordered on the 3rd -- was it express? I'm sure it'll look handsome after you bash it. I'm just glad the mail service didn't bash it for you!

Belegnole · Post by **Belegnole** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:09 am

Let's see I received the confirmation to my order at 11:53pm Sunday 11/02 and the hat arrived at approx. 3:30 pm Monday 11/10. So, without figuring out all the change of time and date stuff 5 shipping days more or less. That was regular air shipping to Wisconsin....lucky me. Boy was I worried when I first saw the box though, but everything was fine inside. The punctured spot on top of the box was done by something rather thin. You can see two parallel scape marks and one broke through the cardboard. There is another hole where the box was pierced by something the same size right above the H on the side of the box. So, it traveled quickly to it's destination the box took the damage and I'm ready to figure out how I am going to bash it.

And if it doesn't shrink enough I will steam it down to size...

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:15 am

twilekjedi wrote:
gwyddion wrote:Twilekjedi, Turning the hat is when you put on your hat before bashing and turn it a little (with the bow moving more to the front) to get that distinktive swoop you see in Raiders. Once you see the amount of swoop you like, mark where you would have your center dent before taking it off. Now you have an off-center center dent and you bash the hat using that.

So, basically turning your hat just means bashing it off-center to get the brim to swoop like it did in Raiders.

Regards, Geert
Ahhh, thank you! Why doesn't anyone make that clear in the tutorials? Hmm, do you think it's too late to fix that now that I've already creased and bashed the thing?

A hat that has already been creased can be harder to reshape and the new bash may not look as "crisp" as the original one you put in. Whether or not you want the turn depends on which scene from Raiders you want to replicate; some hats had the feature, and others didn't. Also, some people care about the turn and others don't. In my opinion, your hat looks just right on you the way it is now.

Jack

twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:51 am

eazybox wrote: A hat that has already been creased can be harder to reshape and the new bash may not look as "crisp" as the original one you put in. Whether or not you want the turn depends on which scene from Raiders you want to replicate; some hats had the feature, and others didn't. Also, some people care about the turn and others don't. In my opinion, your hat looks just right on you the way it is now.

Jack

Thanks, Jack! Yup, I've already found out about the "less 'crisp'" thing. And I agree, I think it looked better the first time around. Anyway, it became a bit too tight around my head with enough turn to make the brim swoosh. So it's currently just slightly off center. But I will say this: it was more fun bashing it the second time around. I guess because I wasn't as afraid to do so. I can see why so many guys here have multiple fedoras!

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eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:27 am

twilekjedi wrote:
eazybox wrote: A hat that has already been creased can be harder to reshape and the new bash may not look as "crisp" as the original one you put in. Whether or not you want the turn depends on which scene from Raiders you want to replicate; some hats had the feature, and others didn't. Also, some people care about the turn and others don't. In my opinion, your hat looks just right on you the way it is now.

Jack
Thanks, Jack! Yup, I've already found out about the "less 'crisp'" thing. And I agree, I think it looked better the first time around. Anyway, it became a bit too tight around my head with enough turn to make the brim swoosh. So it's currently just slightly off center. But I will say this: it was more fun bashing it the second time around. I guess because I wasn't as afraid to do so. I can see why so many guys here have multiple fedoras! ...

Yes, because we keep ruining our hats and need to replace them!Seriously, you'll find you get better and gain more confidence and skill with each new attempt. It's a fun pastime, for sure. ;-)

Jack

Indiana Joosse · Post by **Indiana Joosse** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:35 am

Twilekjedi Great hat, great bash!

Belegnole, glad your hat arrived in one piece the way that box was smashed up!

twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:34 pm

Thanks, Joosse. We're hoping to see yours here soon! At least HatsDirect is keeping in touch with you. They do seem to have good customer service.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:02 pm

Bel,

The box came bashed instead of your hat?!

jkdbuck76 · Post by **jkdbuck76** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:44 pm

twilekjedi,

Is that a Fed VI Regular or a Fed IV Deluxe?

Mine is a Red III Regular.

And let me say, I wish my bash was as good as yours.
Srsly.

deputychino · Post by **deputychino** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:57 pm

Well, my hat arrived on Monday. The box had some minor damage to it, but the hat was fine. The only problem is it's a bit too large on me, even with the foam tape it's still just a tad too loose for my liking. I'm not sure if I'm going to send it back or try to sell it in the bazaar.

I've emailed hatsdirect asking for return instructions, just waiting to hear back from them. At that point I'll decide what to do. I've already went ahead and ordered a size smaller from them today(size 58 ). I will say the hat did get here quickly, ordered it on Sunday the 2nd and it arrived here on the 10th.

twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:07 pm

jkdbuck76 wrote:twilekjedi,

Is that a Fed VI Regular or a Fed IV Deluxe?

Mine is a Red III Regular.

And let me say, I wish my bash was as good as yours.
Srsly.

Wow, thanks jdkbuck76! I think you're too modest, though -- I think your Fed III looks great, and the brim's certainly better than mine. I got a regular Fed IV.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:01 pm

It's Monster's bash that I'm trying to attain! Is it obtainable? I don't know, he's pretty good with the lids I heard? ;-)

....Oh well, he'll probably just start his own thread and it'll become a sticky, I bet!

Has he perfected the 'turn' yet?

twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:55 pm

Shhh! Monster doesn't know about the Fed IV yet. (It's... rabbit!)

In the avatar, he's sitting underneath a wool lid. ;-)

Belegnole · Post by **Belegnole** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:51 am

Be kind....first bash..not necessarily going for SA

Tennessee Steinmetz · Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:44 pm

Okay, here's mine. Had it for about two weeks now. Really like the way it looks and feels. I'm starting to feel strange when I don't have it on!

A few more views:
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twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:06 pm

Hey, Belegnole and TN Steinmetz almost look like brothers! Had to recheck the author column to make sure they weren't the same poster. Both lookin' handsome! ;-)

Cammer · Post by **Cammer** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:09 pm

Here is my new Fed IV Dlx. It fits me perfectly, but this is the second try. The first one was a size 60, but was way too big. This one fits perfect and is my regular size of 59. Originally I tried to order a 59, but they told me that these hats run abit undersize and a 60 would fit me better, so now I have to send the 60 back. Oh well. I have about 5-6 hours of wear on the 59 and it is very comfortable now.

I bashed it with a slight turn to the right, then I lightly misted it with water when I got it just right. Now it's solid.

The photos are a bit washed out from the sun. I didn't take the time to correct the color balance so just keep in mind that the felt is somewhat darker than it appears. It's a very sunny day here in Florida today, 81 deg F at my house.

twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:39 pm

That's gorgeous, Cammer! Wow, a sunny 81 degrees... it looks beautiful down there today. Great shots!

Tennessee Steinmetz · Post by **Tennessee Steinmetz** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:53 pm

twilekjedi wrote:Hey, Belegnole and TN Steinmetz almost look like brothers! Had to recheck the author column to make sure they weren't the same poster. Both lookin' handsome! ;-)

Thanks! I enjoyed your pictures as well. We should all get together for a "hats and glasses" theme!

Clutters · Post by **Clutters** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:37 pm

Great looking Hat Cammer, the color looks perfect in that light.
Hey - what measurement did you come up with for your head prior to purchasing?

Tremolo · Post by **Tremolo** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:43 pm

Good looking hats! Nice to see that so many got their Fed IVs
I love wearing mine

Cammer · Post by **Cammer** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:14 pm

Clutters wrote:Great looking Hat Cammer, the color looks perfect in that light.
Hey - what measurement did you come up with for your head prior to purchasing?

I came up with 59, but I was advised to go with 60 so that's what I ordered. Most people should go with the suggestion of Hatsdirect. It just so happened that it didn't work for me. Perhaps I didn't measure correctly. I don't know.

I'm pretty happy with the bash right now, but are there any experts out there with any suggestions?

Cammer · Post by **Cammer** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:23 pm

twilekjedi wrote: That's gorgeous, Cammer! Wow, a sunny 81 degrees... it looks beautiful down there today. Great shots!

Thanks very much! But you are the one with the fantastic backyard with the giant rock in it. I miss seeing rocks. The only rocks in Florida were shipped in from out of state, or moved down here from North Florida.

Indiana Hutch · Post by **Indiana Hutch** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:22 pm

Well, my hat finally came from Austrailia from hats direct, great service by the way, and checked that it fit before I exiled it away to the back of my girlfriends closet, where it will stay until Christmas. It' s a perfect fit at 57 cm and I am impressed by its rabbit felt. Its only a reg. Fed IV, but the quality is top notch.

tym · Post by **tym** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:44 am

I too received a new standard Fed IV the other day.

Here it is straight out of the box.

The next two pics are post-bash, going for a CS-inspired look. I did not turn the hat and used a bit of steam to get the brim swoop. I don't know what caused the little divot at the back of the crown (it was there when I received the hat); a shot of steam couldn't get rid of it. I think I can live with it.

Cammer · Post by **Cammer** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:02 pm

tym wrote:I don't know what caused the little divot at the back of the crown (it was there when I received the hat); a shot of steam couldn't get rid of it. I think I can live with it.

You might try dampening the felt a bit and supporting the felt from the backside in the position that you want it. I was able to get a little wobble out of my hat by doing that. When the felt dried it maintained the shape that it dried in.

tym · Post by **tym** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:34 pm

Cammer wrote:
tym wrote:I don't know what caused the little divot at the back of the crown (it was there when I received the hat); a shot of steam couldn't get rid of it. I think I can live with it.
You might try dampening the felt a bit and supporting the felt from the backside in the position that you want it. I was able to get a little wobble out of my hat by doing that. When the felt dried it maintained the shape that it dried in.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try misting it with a bit of water (or steam) and adding support to hold the shape until fully dry.

EDIT: I tried the suggestion earlier and it works!

I dabbed on some water with my fingers, then worked the divot from the inside and stuffed the crown with tissue paper to hold the shape while the hat dried. The spot is still there but is much less noticeable now. Thanks, Cammer! Simple solutions are always the best.