New Horsehide Raiders - close enough?

Discuss all of the intricacies of the jacket in full detail

Moderators: Indiana Jeff, Mike, Indydawg

Post Reply
Yojimbo Jones
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 759
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:04 am
Location: www.australianmodelhat.com

New Horsehide Raiders - close enough?

Post by Yojimbo Jones »

Bought this Wested horse a couple of months ago and gave it a bath. (well, a run in the washing machine among other things.) Given the discussions re texture on the Nowak threads, I thought you guys may be interested in seeing how much of a drape and some patchy Raiders "dino-texturing" can be wrung out of the thickest of available hides.

Colours here are pretty accurate to the way it looks to the naked eye.

Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
Baldwyn
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 709
Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:44 am

Post by Baldwyn »

Very very nice!
CM
Legendary Adventurer
Legendary Adventurer
Posts: 2592
Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:43 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by CM »

That jacket looks fantastic! Love those pockets... were they a special request?
User avatar
Marc
Vendor
Posts: 1646
Joined: Tue Jul 02, 2002 2:29 pm
Location: Germany
Contact:

Post by Marc »

AWESOME!!! Looks DEAD ON to me!

Regards,

Marc
Dutch_jones
Museum Curator
Museum Curator
Posts: 1438
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:59 pm
Location: Holland
Contact:

Post by Dutch_jones »

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like Marc said! DEAD ON ! :shock:
Yojimbo Jones
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 759
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:04 am
Location: www.australianmodelhat.com

Post by Yojimbo Jones »

CM wrote:That jacket looks fantastic! Love those pockets... were they a special request?
Thanks. Not really - I just requested "not tall" pockets and these are what I got - they aren't SA but I actually prefer them like this - the pointiness of the scalloping gives them a really old school look that I think works well. I tried to emphasise them on the edging when I distressed it.
WConly
Museum Curator
Museum Curator
Posts: 1716
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:20 am
Location: Topeka, Kansas

Post by WConly »

Wow! 8) Need I say more? That looks supurb! W>
CM
Legendary Adventurer
Legendary Adventurer
Posts: 2592
Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:43 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by CM »

Yojimbo Jones wrote:
CM wrote:That jacket looks fantastic! Love those pockets... were they a special request?
Thanks. Not really - I just requested "not tall" pockets and these are what I got - they aren't SA but I actually prefer them like this - the pointiness of the scalloping gives them a really old school look that I think works well. I tried to emphasise them on the edging when I distressed it.
I actually think that jacket looks more SA than many others. And there are shots where those pockets are pretty close - the start of the temple scene.
User avatar
Indiana Strones
Museum Curator
Museum Curator
Posts: 1760
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:48 pm
Location: Roma, Italy

Post by Indiana Strones »

Great! Is this a dark brown?
User avatar
Texas Raider
Expeditionary Hero
Expeditionary Hero
Posts: 1820
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:47 am
Location: Back in Texas, AGAIN! (but still under my hat)

Post by Texas Raider »

Yep, agreed! Spectacular job!!
Looks perfect!
TR
User avatar
Holt
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 14455
Joined: Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:40 am
Location: COW's Watch Tower

Post by Holt »

what is this? looks pretty non SA to me...I dont like it,sorry :roll:

















No Kiddig....LOVE it!!
User avatar
crismans
Expeditionary Hero
Expeditionary Hero
Posts: 2039
Joined: Thu May 22, 2008 10:46 pm
Location: southeast KY

Post by crismans »

This makes me want my Wested HH to get here even more! What other distressing techniques did you use other than water?
Yojimbo Jones
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 759
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:04 am
Location: www.australianmodelhat.com

Post by Yojimbo Jones »

crismans wrote:This makes me want my Wested HH to get here even more! What other distressing techniques did you use other than water?
This was a bit of a slippery slope for me. I first tried the rubbing alcohol which did nothing much, then thought bugger it and used acetone all over with cotton balls (2 really wet ones together at a time). Then I went around all the edges with the acetone really firmly but being careful not to overdo it. Then I sanded the edges and also some broader patches on the body to give a slow-worn effect. I then scuffed it up a bit on the inner brick walls of our apartment. Somewhere in there I poured boiling water on the collar, massaged it and pulled it forward by grabbing the collar to give it the right form.

Then my baby son puked on me early one morning. Didn't see it at first, but I was wearing it zipped up and he somehow managed to spew straight down the inside of the storm flap, and it nuked most of the zipper facings with baby formula! :shock:

At this point if thought "well, I'm just going to have to wash it then" and threw it in the washing machine on a full cycle. The weird thing was it come out like a massive, bloated wet sponge. Had to wring it out for a fair while and kept scrunching it all over (grabbing handfuls to encourage grain) I then hung it on the hanger you see over the towel twisted around it to bulk it out to avoid distorting the shoulders. Let it dry for a few hours and then wore it until I went to bed that night. By then it had really moulded itself well with all the wrinkles you see.

I do a fair bit of photography and often end up dragging myself over the ground to get a good shot, so we'll see where it goes from here.

To answer Strones, it's my first jacket so not sure where it fits in the colour scale - I think someone has said before that it is between dark brown and authentic? The acetone and the washing did give it the blacker, matt hue though.
Last edited by Yojimbo Jones on Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Yojimbo Jones
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 759
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:04 am
Location: www.australianmodelhat.com

Post by Yojimbo Jones »

Indiana Holt wrote:what is this? looks pretty non SA to me...I dont like it,sorry :roll:
No Kiddig....LOVE it!!
Had me going for a second there Holt! Thanks - HH rocks, huh? What happened to that awesome one of yours? Didn't it go missing? :o
User avatar
jacksdad
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 637
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:08 pm
Location: Lake in the Hills, Illinois

Post by jacksdad »

that jacket looks great like a worn old loved jacket that has seen adventures. very nice.
User avatar
Kt Templar
Legendary Adventurer
Legendary Adventurer
Posts: 4715
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:32 am
Location: London.

Post by Kt Templar »

I like that a lot, it has very pleasing proportions, especially the pockets.

Kinda a shame it's arriving just as summer is round the corner, eh!? :twisted:
User avatar
Tennessee Smith
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 10583
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:47 pm
Location: Everything we need is right here.

Post by Tennessee Smith »

That looks dead-on accurate. I like the color.

Do you have any before pics, to compare and contrast?
cj610
Archaeology Student
Archaeology Student
Posts: 29
Joined: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:44 pm

Post by cj610 »

That's really nice.........color/cut..........

:notworthy:
Adventure Dog
Archaeologist
Archaeologist
Posts: 351
Joined: Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:15 pm
Location: Mt Airy, MD

beautiful

Post by Adventure Dog »

Wow, that looks great. Every picture like these is slowly changing my mind from getting a Last Crusade jacket to a Raiders Jacket.

Color and cut, DEAD ON. Looks awesome!
bullet08
Dig Worker
Dig Worker
Posts: 23
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:12 am

Post by bullet08 »

i have been planning wested LC jacket in horsehide for awhile.. now looking at this thread, i'm thinking maybe raider jacket might be a better choice.. sigh..

pete
Yojimbo Jones
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 759
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:04 am
Location: www.australianmodelhat.com

Post by Yojimbo Jones »

Thanks guys for all the compliments! No before pics - sorry.

KT- yep. Tell me about it. :x
User avatar
IndyFalco
Archaeologist
Archaeologist
Posts: 341
Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:40 am
Location: California

Post by IndyFalco »

Geez, those pictures really sell it good . hahahaha. :)
It looks very good. Too good... :-k


:lol:
Congrats on owning that Jacket !!!
Yojimbo Jones
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 759
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:04 am
Location: www.australianmodelhat.com

Post by Yojimbo Jones »

IndyFalco wrote:Geez, those pictures really sell it good . hahahaha. :)
It looks very good. Too good... :-k
Yep. Swiped it from Uncle George's cabinet! :[
User avatar
rick5150
Museum Curator
Museum Curator
Posts: 1258
Joined: Sat Jul 06, 2002 7:09 am
Location: NH
Contact:

Post by rick5150 »

Yojimbo Jones wrote:Then my baby son puked on me early one morning.
Aha! The element that most of us miss while trying to make our jackets more screen accurate!
User avatar
twilekjedi
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 1092
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:36 pm
Location: If there's a bright center to the universe...

Post by twilekjedi »

I like! Ah, if Santa could bring me a Wested...
Yojimbo Jones
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 759
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:04 am
Location: www.australianmodelhat.com

Post by Yojimbo Jones »

To be honest after seeing those Queen Mary shots, I wish he'd bring me a Nowak! (My wife isn't likely to!)

Can't believe I'm saying this after all the work I put in but I'd entertain the right sort of offer to buy the HH.
User avatar
Don't Call Me Junior!
Archaeologist
Archaeologist
Posts: 271
Joined: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:25 pm
Location: United States (CT)

Post by Don't Call Me Junior! »

I don't know. Based on the pics your jacket looks too incredible to consider letting it go. But I know what you're saying about the TN. I'm considering selling off a couple of my jackets that I said I would never sell so that I can get one myself. Financials aside, as my wife says, how many of these jackets can you actually own AND wear. I have my go to jacket and then the ones I wear because I feel guilty sometimes that I don't wear them.
User avatar
Rundquist
Museum Curator
Museum Curator
Posts: 1791
Joined: Tue Jul 02, 2002 7:39 pm
Location: Earth

Post by Rundquist »

Don't Call Me Junior! wrote:I don't know. Based on the pics your jacket looks too incredible to consider letting it go. But I know what you're saying about the TN. I'm considering selling off a couple of my jackets that I said I would never sell so that I can get one myself. Financials aside, as my wife says, how many of these jackets can you actually own AND wear. I have my go to jacket and then the ones I wear because I feel guilty sometimes that I don't wear them.

I'll second everything. It's a great looking Wested. But that TN is the jacket equivalent of crack. I’ve got G&B jackets that I would never get rid of, but I am looking at some of my other possessions that maybe need to find new homes. I’d try to keep the Wested for now. Get your hands on a TN and then decide if you need to keep the Wested or not.
Yojimbo Jones
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 759
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:04 am
Location: www.australianmodelhat.com

Post by Yojimbo Jones »

Yeah, I know - these are the issues I'm debating at the moment. I don't want to let it go, but posted a "make me an offer" listing in the Bazaar to see what happens. Then I started thinking about all my old "The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones" Comics, original Star Wars figures, etc. that I could sell.

So, re TN being Crack, yes, and I think Westeds definitely are a gateway drug!
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44485
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Considering I just saw a few copies of the Marvel comic series at a local store going for $5 a pop, and no discount, you may want to honestly consider that route if they are just gathering dust....and don't let the grass grow under your feet. They're a hot commodity right now. Once the Indy fever dies down after Christmas, they may not be worth as much as they are right now.

I'd also recommend you keep the HH. The good ones easier to keep than replace! I can't tell you how many regrets I've had over the years with gear.

Regards! Michaelson
User avatar
Don't Call Me Junior!
Archaeologist
Archaeologist
Posts: 271
Joined: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:25 pm
Location: United States (CT)

Post by Don't Call Me Junior! »

Yes, yes, listen to Obi-Wan, I mean, uh, Michaelson, you must!
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44485
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

:lol:
Yojimbo Jones
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 759
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:04 am
Location: www.australianmodelhat.com

Post by Yojimbo Jones »

"Indy Fever" - That's a disco version of the soundtrack album they brought out in '81, right?
User avatar
crismans
Expeditionary Hero
Expeditionary Hero
Posts: 2039
Joined: Thu May 22, 2008 10:46 pm
Location: southeast KY

Post by crismans »

TN has to be the crack of jackets. I'm selling off some of my vintage action figures for my TN fund.

Ah, the madness... :o
Yojimbo Jones
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 759
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:04 am
Location: www.australianmodelhat.com

Post by Yojimbo Jones »

crismans wrote:TN has to be the crack of jackets. I'm selling off some of my vintage action figures for my TN fund.
Carded original Star Wars figures - check.
Original Raiders trading cards - check.
Temple of Doom hardcover comic adaption - check.
Boxed original Corgi Batman set - check.
Free set of steak knives - check.
:)
Actually, this may be an oddly cleansing process!
User avatar
JC1972
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 1134
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:38 pm
Location: Lake Mary, FL

Post by JC1972 »

If it was me I'd keep the Wested. Yes the TN is nice but is it worth the money? Like my wife always tells me, better leave well enough alone. I'd say the HH is well enough.
Yojimbo Jones
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 759
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:04 am
Location: www.australianmodelhat.com

Post by Yojimbo Jones »

Yeah - this is what I'm thinking. I've put the HH up on the Bazaar but I don't know that anyone's going to give me more than Wested's ticket price for it. If they do, then I will likely be tempted to give it to them.

But the more likely path that I'm following is to sell a bunch of my other memorabilia etc. It's not like the cost of a Wested could possibly cover a Nowak anyway, no matter how allegedly good the cut and distressing is!

I mean, I;m obsessive, but I'm not delusional! :[
User avatar
Piers
Archaeologist
Archaeologist
Posts: 324
Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:59 pm

Post by Piers »

If it was a 42, I'd be Sooooorely tempted
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44485
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Yojimbo Jones wrote:Yeah - this is what I'm thinking. I've put the HH up on the Bazaar but I don't know that anyone's going to give me more than Wested's ticket price for it. If they do, then I will likely be tempted to give it to them.
Well, just keep in mind that as new as it is to you, it's still just a used jacket to the potential buyer, so don't expect more than you paid, or even break even unless someone REALLY wants it bad and not wait for their own custom...especially considering it's still a standard item sold by Wested. Just a word to the wise....

Regards! Michaelson
User avatar
indyrocks
Archaeologist
Archaeologist
Posts: 398
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:16 am
Location: USA, Earth

Post by indyrocks »

I've recently posted my Westeds as well on the Bazzar. I've never done that here, do people generally have luck with it? Or is that too broad of a question to ask... :[
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44485
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Yes, they really do. Seems whips, hats and jackets (in that order) sell pretty well, if priced right of course.
Just keep those sales in the classified and not double post all over the site. ;-)
Regards! Michaelson
User avatar
indyrocks
Archaeologist
Archaeologist
Posts: 398
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:16 am
Location: USA, Earth

Post by indyrocks »

You've go it! Thanks for the info! I suspect there will be a lot of jackets popping up pretty soon....
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44485
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Good deal. Just keep the price in mind, as it also gives our newer members a chance to 'get in the game' with a good jacket at a decent price.

That's all that we ask.....give the new folks a chance.

HIGH regards! Michaelson
User avatar
indyrocks
Archaeologist
Archaeologist
Posts: 398
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:16 am
Location: USA, Earth

Post by indyrocks »

Michaelson wrote:Good deal. Just keep the price in mind, as it also gives our newer members a chance to 'get in the game' with a good jacket at a decent price.

That's all that we ask.....give the new folks a chance.

HIGH regards! Michaelson

Very good point! I in fact lowered in this morning!
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44485
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

I noticed. VERY good prices for a lambskin Wested too!
:tup:
HIGH regards! Michaelson :M:
Yojimbo Jones
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 759
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:04 am
Location: www.australianmodelhat.com

Post by Yojimbo Jones »

Michaelson wrote:Just keep those sales in the classified and not double post all over the site.
Sorry if this thread has gone in that direction, btw, wasn't my intent. Just trying to get some free therapy, really!
Michaelson wrote: don't expect more than you paid, or even break even unless someone REALLY wants it bad and not wait for their own custom...especially considering it's still a standard item sold by Wested. Just a word to the wise....
Yeah - I agree. Put it this way - I wouldn't be upset if it didn't sell. I'm already rationalising... HH - winter jacket; TN lamb - summer jacket. Still 2 other seasons to work with too! :lol:

So this is how some of you boys end up with half a dozen jackets!
Post Reply