Wested Making a ToD jacket - order questions

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:22 pm

Admin asked for a separate thread and I couldn't find one so...

RCSignals wrote:For specifications, to get jacket body length right, how does one determine if you want the ratio to be correct with the original?

If you want only an exact copy of the NH do you simply write that in the comments section?

thanks

edit: it was said in the other thread that the jacket is a 40. I assume this refers to being for a 40" chest size not the actual measurement of the jacket which would mean it's for a smaller chest?

serrecuir · Post by **serrecuir** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:29 pm

A question for you all - Peter said the ToD jacket was 1" longer than the Raiders jacket. Do we add that additional 1" into the "Back Length" measurement on the order form, or will Peter add 1" to whatever length we put? (i.e. - if the back length of my Raiders jacket is 25", do I list 25" as Peter will add that add'l 1", or do I factor that in myself and write down 26"?)
Thanks!

Kind regards,
Craig

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:39 pm

I would factor it in yourself.

Check out the handshake in front of the palace to see where the jacket should fall. JMSuggestion.

serrecuir · Post by **serrecuir** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:54 pm

Kt Templar wrote:I would factor it in yourself.

Check out the handshake in front of the palace to see where the jacket should fall. JMSuggestion.

Thanks, KT!

-Craig

MACHONE · Post by **MACHONE** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:55 pm

Wooo hooo

! Been waiting on this one. Order is in, Washed goat. I do not have a goat jacket, and like the variety. From pictures of others jackets I think it will work for the TOD look.
If you are ordering, what leather are you selecting?
-Ben

Kevin Anderson · Post by **Kevin Anderson** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:59 pm

Just ordered; authentic brown lamb. Almost went with the washed goat, but I love the lambskin too much! Maybe a washed goat a little later on,
if they're still available.

Piers · Post by **Piers** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:32 pm

Got my order in for a dark brown.. measurements hopefully to match the perfect sleeve and back length that I have with my Wings jacket. When I get myself a washed goat Raiders, I'll take an inch off of that.

Jacket Size: 42
Sleeve Length: 25 (although I added that the total collar to sleeve end needs to be 32.5-33)
Back Length: 26

Picked Dark Brown based on several members and their posted pics as well as this comparison of the ToD to the washed lamb of the prototype

The waiting is the hardest part!!

ReturningSon · Post by **ReturningSon** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:03 pm

Yeah, placed my order. I also went with a Dark Brown lambskin. My measurements:

Size 50
Sleeves: 25
Back: 27
No extra pocket
Dark Brown Lambskin
Special Request: Satin Sheen Label that states : ""Harrison Ford- Indiana Jones Film 2"

Not bad, I cannot wait to get this! But, like I said earlier, is this an open ended run or a limited edition of 60 jackets?....Thanks!!!

Zach R. · Post by **Zach R.** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:59 pm

I hope it isn't too limited, but I should get my order in by tomorrow. I only wish they offered a Darker Brown Washed Goat.

I'm adding an inch or so to my tad short raiders/lc hybrid I bought in 2005, should be a perfect (if not sa) length for me.

Zach R. · Post by **Zach R.** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:15 pm

Oh, btw, does anyone know what color the nylon lining is? Is it the same brown they use in the cotton?

ReturningSon · Post by **ReturningSon** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:16 pm

my guess would be the same brown...However, I remember reading somewhere that the jacket is limited to only 60, is this true?..

Zach R. · Post by **Zach R.** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:17 pm

ReturningSon wrote:my guess would be the same brown...However, I remember reading somewhere that the jacket is limited to only 60, is this true?..

I think I remember reading somewhere where Peter was saying something about sourcing more hardware, so I don't think it's as limited as 60, but don't take my word on it.

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:19 pm

If I'm correct, Peter was able to find some original equipment snaps and zippers for the jackets. He had enough of those for the first 60 jackets after that you get the new stuff.

ReturningSon · Post by **ReturningSon** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:41 pm

really?...Wow, thats cool! Wait, what is meant by "original hardware"?...

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:45 pm

ReturningSon wrote:really?...Wow, thats cool! Wait, what is meant by "original hardware"?...

the same snaps, zipper, and maybe side strap buckles

ReturningSon · Post by **ReturningSon** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:53 pm

From what, exactly? The same type or?...sorry, just a little confused!

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:00 am

Who knows the sleeve and back length of the original as worn by KT?

When Wested asks for back length is it from the top or bottom of the collar stand?

ReturningSon · Post by **ReturningSon** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:04 am

I measured from the neck, not the collar as the collar extends the neck and is usually not part of a "back" measurement, or at least that is what my tailor told me about 5 years ago.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:17 am

ReturningSon wrote:From what, exactly? The same type or?...sorry, just a little confused!

According to the original thread, the same type from the same manufacturers in the same materials. Mostly old stock.

I guess if that doesn't matter to you, you could specify for them to use their standard hardware.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:18 am

ReturningSon wrote:I measured from the neck, not the collar as the collar extends the neck and is usually not part of a "back" measurement, or at least that is what my tailor told me about 5 years ago.

I agree it's standard but I hate to assume

ReturningSon · Post by **ReturningSon** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:36 am

No, I want original if I can (Who wouldn't)...

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:46 am

which leather was used for the prototype and which best matches the NH jacket?

Authentic (seal) Brown English lambskin or Dark Brown Lambskin ?

******************

edit: found the prototype was made of 'burnished' lamb.

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:18 am

I think authentic brown is the best matching.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:45 am

Indiana Strones wrote:I think authentic brown is the best matching.

Thank You!

Piers · Post by **Piers** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:03 am

I got an email 3 hours ago (6am now) saying my order was cancelled, and then another a few minutes later saying PROCESSING! Let's hope that one's right!

SpeedRcrX · Post by **SpeedRcrX** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:07 am

I post here my previous question since it was OT on the other topic

I was ckecking the custom made page on the EKM website and when I looked at the different hides on the raider jacket (I know, I know but I've already check the ToD page, promise !!) in the option I saw "Worn look hide", what is it

sithspawn · Post by **sithspawn** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:10 am

WOW!

It's out of stock already!

Andymac84 · Post by **Andymac84** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:55 am

WHAT???

Holy cow.... I wanted to pick up one of those jackets.... I love this movie....

that's too bad...

Piers · Post by **Piers** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:07 am

I'm sure after the initial batch of orders are finished, the jacket will be available again

Not sure what the CANCELLED -> PROCESSING emails were about, but Gemma emailed me for confirmation of my sleeve lengths. I measured both arms 3x each once more, changed my length from 25 to 26", as that's the distance from my shoulder bone to an inch or so from my thumb knuckle. Almost all the shoulder seams on my jackets fall about an inch below that shoulder bone, so that's where I must have come up with the first measurement.. Hope I get it right!!

conceited_ape · Post by **conceited_ape** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:33 am

sithspawn wrote:WOW! It's out of stock already!

OMG, you're right! That BLOWS!

Zach R. · Post by **Zach R.** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:39 am

conceited_ape wrote:
sithspawn wrote:WOW! It's out of stock already!
OMG, you're right! That BLOWS!

Yep, I didn't get my order in.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:40 am

Out of stock already?

I wonder if that just means they've run out of original hardware or specific leather.

I think the original thread said there were enough original snaps for 60 and zips for 100.

ReturningSon · Post by **ReturningSon** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:04 am

Wow, so glad I got my order in! Jeez, i can't believe its sold out!

Inbanana · Post by **Inbanana** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:25 am

I think I must have just got mine in before they ran out... went with authentic brown lamb, although washed goat was a close second choice...

PETER · Post by **PETER** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:53 am

Sorry about that. The stock level has been adjusted to 60.
The back length sample is 26" on the size 40"
Piers ordered twice which is why one was cancelled.
Methinks he got a bit exited
Cheers
Peter

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:19 pm

So what happens once the first 60 are bought out Peter?

Piers · Post by **Piers** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:20 pm

in the order number, are the last 2 digits the number the order that the order was placed (did I say order enough?).. if so, rats, the cancelled order was /05, the new one /32

Thanks Peter, I didn't notice the different numbers in the emails!

Cheers!

*addendum- I think I know where the double came from, the first order gave me an error trying to pay with paypal and instead of clicking Back, I closed the window and had to start again..

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:21 pm

;-)

EDIT

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:21 pm

Yea Strones I was given incorrect info....I edited the post

ReturningSon · Post by **ReturningSon** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:40 pm

So peter, this is limited to 60 jackets?...

Browncoat · Post by **Browncoat** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:09 pm

Thanks for the heads up, guys! I didn't know this was already available for sale.

I need to put in my order.

PETER · Post by **PETER** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:21 pm

I might make a few more. I might make it 65 and retire gracefully.

serrecuir · Post by **serrecuir** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:28 pm

PETER wrote:The back length sample is 26" on the size 40"
Cheers
Peter

Ohhh boy, now I'm excited!! I'm a size 40 and gave my back spec as 26", so this gives me reassurance that I ordered the right length. I guess I'll be getting a 1:1 version of this jacket - I can't wait!!

-Craig

MACHONE · Post by **MACHONE** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:38 pm

Peter,
Thank you sincerely for what you have done with this project. I have bought jackets from you long before I was a member on COW, it will be a sad day for many gearheads when you do decide to retire. While you may get some grief from time to time from particular people on the boards, I'm sure there are many out there both on COW and not, who are more grateful than you know for your efforts. Being in the customer service industry myself, compliments unfortunately tend to come much less frequently than criticism.
-Ben

SIDE NOTE: The jackets are back up on Wested's site, which is now modified. The description of the jacket has also been changed. Initially it listed the jacket as including leather facings and a leather trimmed inner pocket. I emailed Gemma asking about these specs...and the description has now been modified. She wrote back saying that all the TOD jackets would be constructed identically as copies of the original except for the leather selection

.

Tron7960 · Post by **Tron7960** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:40 pm

I just received the e-mail confirmation of my order of a TOD size 40 from Wested!

This will be my christmas present to myself!

Zach R. · Post by **Zach R.** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:57 pm

Whew, after having a bit of trouble with the ordering system (I'm pretty sure I placed two orders) I finally got mine in.

I followed up an email giving them my actual measurements, so hopefully the fit comes out good.

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:12 pm

Zach R. wrote:Whew, after having a bit of trouble with the ordering system (I'm pretty sure I placed two orders) I finally got mine in.

I followed up an email giving them my actual measurements, so hopefully the fit comes out good.

strange. I ended up with two in my 'cart' as well, but I deleted one of them before I placed the order.

I wonder how many of the 60 are sold?

conceited_ape · Post by **conceited_ape** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:02 pm

Done! I'm in!

Although on the order form it goes from size 36 to 40. Maybe a typo, but I needed a 38.
Oh well, I specified this on the 'special request' form so I should be OK. ;-)

ReturningSon · Post by **ReturningSon** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:53 pm

Now the waiting ensues...

RCSignals · Post by **RCSignals** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:59 pm

patience is a virtue