Explorador

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:38 am

Anyone here has this Spanish hat?

http://www.indianajones.es/ropa/fedora_ ... explorador

whiskyman · Post by **whiskyman** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:42 am

Looks quite nice.

Dutch_jones · Post by **Dutch_jones** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:37 am

ugh that crown is almost Federation tall !

Tremolo · Post by **Tremolo** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:51 am

looks nice, and the price seems to be right as well.
but it would be cool to see some more pics of it ;-)
I hope someone here has one...

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:53 am

It seems taller than Fed 4.

Tremolo · Post by **Tremolo** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:31 am

I found this
http://www.indianajones.es/foroindy/vie ... a74efa9605

I don´t understand Spanish, but at least there are some more pictures

indyclone · Post by **indyclone** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:42 am

que? sorry had to do it .---lol nice looking hats ----

The Aviator · Post by **The Aviator** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:43 am

The ribbon is petersham and the crown looks way to high imao...still nice looking fedora though

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:39 am

The first link makes reference to 1936 & 1957. This reminds me of the Camptown? Are these hats Spanish made or imported? Just curious.

Piker · Post by **Piker** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:44 am

Texan Scott wrote:The first link makes reference to 1936 & 1957. This reminds me of the Camptown? Are these hats Spanish made or imported? Just curious.

Wow, maybe I can finally get a Camptown that way! but they are 100% rabbit can't be a CT.

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:50 am

They are made in Argentina by fans. They order hats from the Argentinian factory Lagomarsino

www.lagomarsino-hats.com.ar

This is the hat as they receive from the factory:

Then they modify the hat to obtain an Indy hat (dimensional cut, new ribbon...)

Here's the final result:

Odo · Post by **Odo** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:20 pm

Well, I have some of them...

In fact, Dewijones and me have been making them for our pals at the Spanish Indy Forum.
http://www.indianajones.es/foroindy/index.php

I've never offered them here, cause at COW there are lots of great hatmakers, and I thought you didn't need any more.
Besides that, I've always encouraged people to get Adventurebilts and Magnoli's HJ, which are, IMO, the hats you can get.
I also think Lee Keppler's, JPDs, Camptowns (and maybe I'm forgetting someone), though I don't owe them, are well worth lids, too.

Thanks for asking, anyway. If anyone was interested, you're welcome, of course.
Maybe you're right about the crown to be a little taller (5 3/4"), we are working on that.
We are using Hare felt, which is some thougher than rabbit.
We get the felt from Lagomarsino, and we work on the blocking.
In fact Lagomarsino doesn't have models with that block shape.
We also use Petersham ribbons.

Here are some more pics:

Our linings for the 36 and 57 models:

And this is the traslation of the Spanish Web:

"Explorador" (Steele & Jones)

It's a Fedora make by fans, for fans. It was born at the Spanish Indy-Forum, made by Harry Steele & Indiego Jones -members of it-, with the help of many others members, aswell, who aided with ideas & opinions.

This hat is the result of many hours of study, search and tests, tying to get a high quality and though hat, at the lowest cost possible, which could be creased in the Raiders or Crystal skull shape.

They were looking for the best fedora you would dare to wear in your travels, without having to be watching after it all the time cause of its cost.

The felt is made by Lagomarsino, the most ancient and traditional Hat Makers in Buenos Aires, Agrentina (since 1891).

Harry & Indiego block the hats, sew the Petersham lace and bow, and place the linner. After this, they crease the hat in the particular model you are looking after.

Explorador '36 (Raiders-Brown)
Explorador '57 (Crysytal Skull-Brown)
Viajero '36 (Raiders-Grey)
Viajero '57 (Crysytal Skull-Grey)

Material:
100% high quality hare felt.

They are made in all sizes from 54 to 64

Price:
U$D 145 + shipping

To buy:
You may contact them sending an e-mail:

Harry Steele (Roberto O'Brien -me-): odo1978bis@yahoo.com.ar
Indiego Jones (Diego): dewivillar@hotmail.com
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Evaluation:

Positive: Great creased, both Raiders or Skull. High quelity but soft touch felt. Highest price/quality. Easy communication with vendors. Many payment options.

Negative: None yet.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:11 pm

Glad to know this choice is out there! Thanks for the info.

Piker · Post by **Piker** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:20 pm

Liking that tall crown!!

bigrex · Post by **bigrex** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:59 pm

Nice, the color on the 36 model looks pleasing.

Odo · Post by **Odo** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:53 pm

Well, thanks.
We are making this as a hobby, and for the fun.
of course, ours is far from being the ultimte Indy hat, but we weren't looking for that neither.
Just looking for an Indy-like fedora, not very expensive.

There were two reasons to start this project:
-Buying hats from oustide is very expensive in Argentina, cause of the so expensive taxes we have to pay, and that makes most hats almost unaffordable for the regular guy here.
-Many friends had already bought HJs, but they didn't want to risk them, and also didnt' want to be all the time looking after their hats instead of enjoying their travels and holidays.

So, if you like them, fine. Thanks.
If you don't, fine too.

darth_ming · Post by **darth_ming** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:39 pm

I one of the owners of a Fedora Explorador 36.
And I cannot be more satisfied with it.
Is soft, strong, and has this incredible real touch.
Her you have pictures I took with my Explorador around the world jejeje.

In La Paz - Bolivia

In Moon Valley - Bolivia

Hernando Siles Stadium - La Paz - Bolivia

Paris - France

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:39 pm

That is an impressive hat you offer, Odo.

Bemo · Post by **Bemo** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:59 pm

Odo, I applaude your ingenuity and determination. It really shows in the execution of your hats. Very Nice!

And Darth Ming, that's a great looking hat with a great bash!

Good job guys!

Peace.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:34 pm

Great pics, really like the posts!

Piker · Post by **Piker** » Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:40 pm

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:33 am

Anymore photos, anyone? How is the felt, dense, etc?

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:04 am

Odo, why the factory can't make the dimensional cut for you? It's not difficult for a professional I think.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:10 am

that is a very nice hat and much taller then the fed4.

cograts on making such a fine hat

Satipo · Post by **Satipo** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:37 am

Those hats look great! The bashed crowns on the examples being worn in the big pics don't look too tall to me.

darth_ming · Post by **darth_ming** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:44 am

It have a tall crown, but, maybe could be because the size I wear is 60 (I made a mistake in taking the measurement when I ordered) really I need 59 or 58.
The model I wear is Explorador 36 with a Raiders style.
Maybe Odo could explain you better the features of the felt and the details of the modeling (they did a very deep study of the details of the fedora before did the prototype).

I can say that the felt is premium quality, I put it under the rain, I left under direct sun, I had put it in the bottom of a luggage and never lost the shape neither shrink.

I took this photo after put the hat in the bottom of my luggage in my travel to Paris, you can see the hat doesn't loose the shape.

Odo · Post by **Odo** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:35 pm

Indiana Strones wrote:Odo, why the factory can't make the dimensional cut for you? It's not difficult for a professional I think.

I asked them if could be done, when I wanted they to do the hat, but they were no interested in Indy hats at all.
They have a few models, and are only interested in making them.
This is the closest to an Indy Hat they offer, and is pretty awful. In fact, I'd preffer a Dorfman Pacific.

(this was the first hat I owned)

So I buy the felt to them. I've got a friend there that helps with the blocking, and then me and Diego (the guy in the Machu Picchu pictrures) do the rest of the job.

Texan Scott · Post by **Texan Scott** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:24 pm

You guys are doing a good job. I think it is time, or you might say past time that members knew of this viable option? In order to help members make decisions, can you give some information about the time it takes to make one, shipping fees to the US, etc.? What kind of leather is the sweat band? Could you also post a few additional photos of the grey fedora?

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:44 pm

Here's a translation from the original site:

"a fedora made by fans for fans. Emerged from the forum of this website as a creation of Harry Steele and Jones-Indiego members of the same-with the cooperation of the members who were leaving their opinions.

The fedora is the result of countless hours of study, research, and testing to achieve a durable and high quality at the lowest possible cost, to respond faithfully to the style and Raiders Crystal Skull (models that share many similarities, starting with the use of the same block).
The premise was that had done the best that a fedora be encouraged to carry on their travels, yet without being the same for its high economic value or its difficulty to restore.

The pre-molded Felt comes from the factory Lagomarsino, the home of more traditional hats of Buenos Aires, Argentina (since 1891).
Harry Indiego work in it and re-blocking, reducing the thickness of felt, changing the ribbon and tie the original and finally he put the white jacket with his distinctive logo in gold. At the end of this work will shape it according to the style in particular is chosen."

Odo · Post by **Odo** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:46 am

Thanks Piker, Tex, Holt, Satipo and the other guys...

Like I said, we are making this as a hobby and for the fun, so we are making them in our spare time, and our waiting time is about 6 weeks (could be less, but I preffer to say 6 weeks, and then, if it is less, much better).

Shipping to the USA & Canada is U$D22, and can be tracked.
There's another shipping option (Air Mail) , but it is more expensive.

We use the same grey felt for our 36 and 57 models. In fact, I like it more for the Raiders. I ain't sure which is the right colour for the '57, so I'm posting pics of it under different lights.

This 57 is the very same hat, different light conditions:
(Note: This was the Prototype, and it has a wrong ribbon, which also is too narrow -35mm. It was replaced for a more suitable 39mm later)

To be honest, the sweat band is what I like it the less. It's made out of black cowhide, very thin. Maybe in the future we'll replace it, but it's the one we are using nowadays.

This was our 1st order...

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:08 am

This is a great looking lid. Its a nice option for those in South America to save on shipping. I even like the color!

Dave

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:04 am

Agreed.
You guys are doing some really nice work. Keep 'em coming!

Mitch

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:51 pm

Hi, I'm Diego. Odo's partner in fedora "Explorador".

Thanks for the kind words!

Here some more pics.
(latest orders)

Flash----------------------------------------No flash

My own EXP:

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:09 pm

Darth Ming, what jacket is in those La Paz pics?

Piker · Post by **Piker** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:18 pm

Diego and Odo, how does a Yanqui (I am not a Yankee, though [Yankees burnt my town to a crisp once]) go about obtaining one of these high hat gems?

;-)

darth_ming · Post by **darth_ming** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:51 pm

Hi Indiana Strones,

That jacket is a Wested custom Raiders size 40R in authentic brown lambskin.
That's why it looks that way.
That day I almost feeling like a archeologist!!!! hehehe

Odo · Post by **Odo** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:56 pm

Hi, Piker...thanks for your interest...
We have been making runs of 12-15 hats, and we are going to start one run this week.
So, you just have to contact us via mail or PM
Harry Steele (Roberto O'Brien -me-): odo1978bis@yahoo.com.ar
Indiego Jones (Diego): dewivillar@hotmail.com
In fact, I was going to contact you right now, as you had sent me a PM, but you asked faster than I write...

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:44 pm

darth_ming wrote:Hi Indiana Strones,

That jacket is a Wested custom Raiders size 40R in authentic brown lambskin.
That's why it looks that way.
That day I almost feeling like a archeologist!!!! hehehe

Thanks. Looks a great jacket, beautiful colour! ;-)

Indiego Jones · Post by **Indiego Jones** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:39 pm

Some open crown pics.
FRONT

SIDE

(the ribbons are just colour testing and bow samples. not the petersham or bow we use)

darth_ming · Post by **darth_ming** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:29 pm

A Fedora Explorador 1936 (Raiders) has been sent to Oklahoma.
I hope to see comments of the hat ASAP.

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:55 pm

I am the fellow in Oklahoma expecting the hat. Upon it's arrival I will report and post pictures.

Restless Dreamer · Post by **Restless Dreamer** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:32 pm

Odo, they are really nice. the explorador 37 photo posted in that spanish forum almost looks like an AB

that is a true raiders shape!

I think your hats could be a very good choice for somebody who wants a good hat and doesn't want to wait too long and spend too much. like the christy's.

you really should do some advertising. don't be shy

yes, maybe there are other hats which are much better in quality and all, but your prices are very good and your Explorador could really be nicknamed "the AB of the poor"

Odo · Post by **Odo** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:50 pm

Well, thanks...
In fact, we wanted to make "the hat you'd like to wear, but wouldn't mind if you'd lose it after being dragged behind a truck"...
We've recived some few orders from people here at COW, and I hope to finish them someday in november to be showed here...
Thanks for your support, anyway!

twilekjedi · Post by **twilekjedi** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:57 pm

Restless Dreamer wrote:"the AB of the poor"

or of the thrifty ;-)

Restless Dreamer · Post by **Restless Dreamer** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:05 am

twilekjedi wrote:
Restless Dreamer wrote:"the AB of the poor"
or of the thrifty ;-)

yes, sounds better

sorry, I didn't have a dictionary at hand at the moment so I used the first word that came to my mind.

I'd really like to buy an Explorador...but I'm saving money for my ABH

ufff...

Montana Hannah · Post by **Montana Hannah** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:23 am

Are they really only 99 Euros?!!! They are good looking hats, and I for one like the taller crown. I think it's very Raiders (I'm thinking Waterfall Bash tall here). How much would it cost to ship from Argentina to the UK?

Odo · Post by **Odo** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:37 am

Hi, Montana...thanks for looking. I think shipping is €18 to anywhere in Europe. (At least we've sent hats to Spain, Italy and Switzerland, and that was the rate).
I'll ask, and then I will confirm you.

Montana Hannah · Post by **Montana Hannah** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:00 am

Cool! Not that's not bad at all! (I am Scottish after all...)

alphared6 · Post by **alphared6** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:21 pm

The hat I bought from Darth-Ming arrived today. I am very impressed with the color and material used. I bought this hat used from him so it has seen some wear. There is no obvious deficiencies visible to the hat. I must assume that it will stand up well. The hat is soft compared to my Fed IV and two Akubras. It's taller than either, but I like that. It arrived with a Raiders bash. The dent in the top is a little deeper than I'd like but I have come to believe this is an affect of the height of crown. I will be wearing it to Walt Disney Word latter next month, I plan on giving it a beating. I'll report back in early December. Photo's will be posted soon.

Piker · Post by **Piker** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:44 pm

Montana Hannah wrote:Cool! Not that's not bad at all! (I am Scottish after all...)

Aye