Adjustable cuffs

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:00 pm

Has anyone asked or requested adjustable cuffs from Wested? Im not sure how they would go about doing it, but just wondered if anyone has thought of this? I send Peter an email as well....

CHeers
I J

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:50 am

Peter or somebody please let me know. I want to get my Dad a Wested for the holiday but the cuff is the big issue. My dad wants button cuffs so the wind doesn't blow up them.

Suggestions?

Tollan · Post by **Tollan** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:12 am

I'm sure Wested will do that. They will pretty much do anything you ask for..... except attach the elastic between the action pleats like FS and USW

.... I still don't understand why Peter refuses to do that

Post by **Jens** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:16 am

Errr - Peter attached an elastic between the action pleats at my Jacket (I asked him for) - so he doesn't refuse this (anymore).

Hope that was no "secret", Peter

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 11:52 am

I have asked Peter to taper the cuff on my new jacket for a better fit, Spoke to Wested and no problem at all. Would that solve the issue?
I guess it depends what you are looking for, but personally I wouldn't be happy to have elasticated or button cuffs as it is just a little too unauthentic for my liking. After all, this is an INDY jacket. If I was desperate for those sort of cuffs, I'd just buy an A2 flying jacket and have done.
Having said all that - each and every to their own; I guess everyone has their own idea of an authentic Indy Jacket....

But I'm sure Peter will give you what you want.

Regards,

Alan

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:25 pm

Here is Peters reply:

"Sorry, not sure we understand the Indy jackets have a plain sleeve – what do you mean by adjustable?

Cheers Peter"

Can anyone help me word this better, this is what I asked:

Dear Peter,

"Im going to order another jacket soon, and I wanted to ask if Wested has a way of making the cuffs on my new jacket adjustable?"

Maybe Peter will stop by and help us out! I like pyros Idea of snaps, I had a suede jacket that had two sets of snaps on it that worked pretty well.

I J

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:36 pm

IJ - perhaps you could ask Peter to include a 'hidden' velcro strip on the outside cuff to make the cuff adjustable? I had an old army jacket which had that and it was great for camping, biking etc. - maybe that would work and would remain 'authentic', along the same lines as hidden presstuds? :idea: The velcro could be coloured brown and faced with leather.

Regards,

Alan

Plynck · Post by **Plynck** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:02 pm

You may want to see this post about some of the things that Peter will or will not do to customize a jacket:

http://www.indygear.com/forum/viewtopic ... e8df39b9ab

Here was Peter's reply to me with respect to cuffs:

Sacrilege to put cuffs on a Raiders jacket, it ruins the concept and authentic look.

I have similar styles we put cuffs on but not the Raiders.

Cheers

Peter

I happen to think that a cuff gives a nice finished look to a sleeve, and it sounds like at least some of the folks in here agree. But it is hard to argue with the doting parent who sees us as giving his favorite son a tattoo, and Peter is probably putting his foot down to keep us from driving him nuts with endless variants. I still don't know what was wrong with a dual action zipper, however...

Oh, by the way: My concern (in the post referenced above) about the vinyl-like appearance of the jacket has gone away. I know that some folks use rubbing alcohol to get rid of the shiny look, but a week or so of wearing the jacket and that look went away. It must be some kind of finish that either wears off or evaporates. I'm glad, I was truly hesitant to apply any distressing techniques to this jacket other than daily wear. After a month or so, my satisfaction with the look of this jacket has increased remarkedly.

Best to all,

plynck

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:22 pm

Sacrilege to put cuffs on a Raiders jacket, it ruins the concept and authentic look.

I have similar styles we put cuffs on but not the Raiders.

Cheers

Peter

Aw Peter, it doesn't make us bad people!

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:35 pm

Sacrilege to put cuffs on a Raiders jacket, it ruins the concept and authentic look.

I have similar styles we put cuffs on but not the Raiders.

I didnt mean finished cuffs, when I wrote cuffs, I just meant plain barrel cuffs like all the jackets come with, just adjustable to make them wider or smaller....

IJ

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 12:53 pm

Hers Gerrys response:

"Dear James

I have been consulting with our tailor and after an exhaustive examination of the various adjustable solutions I am sorry to say that we would not be prepared to make a garment with these specifications. The reasons for this are that the jacket in question has a plain sleeve without a cuff at all. To put a cuff on would ruin the look of the sleeve and the drape of the jacket. To put D rings in a normal sleeve, they would have to be secured by a large piece of leather inside the lining which would be very uncomfortable and without the piece of leather it would rip the sleeve. Press studs would be the best option but when pulling these, again, in time, the sleeve leather would rip. We would not use Velcro as a matter of course as it has no longevity.

I am sorry we cannot help you with these modifications on this occasion but we feel you would be very unhappy with the finished coat and we would not be able to give it our usual guarantee of quality and long life.

Regards Gerry"

Sounds good to me!

I J

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 9:20 am

Gee, I never really thought about that. The less hardware on the jacket, the less chance of it ripping where said hardware is attached. Very interesting...

FLATHEAD · Post by **FLATHEAD** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 10:42 am

I just bought myself another Aero Leather Company jacket recently. I
bought their Californian jacket in Russet Buffalo hide.

Anyway, this jacket comes with an adjusting strap on the end of the
sleeve, that uses D-rings to adjust it from loose to as tight as you want
it.

Here is a pic:

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/vie ... uid=142228

There are about 8 pictures of my jacket on the left hand side of the screen.
You just click on one of them, and it will show up in a larger version in
the middle of your screen. Click on the one that shows the sleeve, and
you can see what I am talking about.

Flathead

Plynck · Post by **Plynck** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 11:30 am

I'd be happy with that cuff, even without the strap. Also see this cuff, on Aero's Highwayman jacket:

http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/imag ... -large.jpg

I like the slanted look, but even straight across would be a nice look, too. I just think that a cuff finishes off a jacket. But there's no way that I'm going to tick off Peter if he doesn't want to do this; he's so agreeable to most demands.

Best to all,

plynck

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:00 pm

Both are stylish jackets! Mind if I ask how much you paid? I really like that californian jacket....

IJ

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:47 pm

Sorry guys, I know I'm pretty new here and all but I really don't understand why you would want Peter to put cuffs on given what he has said. It just wouldn't be an Indy jacket, would it? As I suggested, why not just buy an A2 for those must-have-cuff-occassions?

:

Regards, Alan

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 9:53 pm

That was just it, I didnt want cuffs, I wanted to keep the plain barrel cuffs the jacket comes with, just make them adjustable, like hidden snaps inderneath or something! No big deal though....

I J

Kittlemeier · Post by **Kittlemeier** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 10:09 pm

What about hidden elastic attatched inside the sleeve? K

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Sat Sep 27, 2003 12:34 pm

Oh, I get it :idea:
Well, as an option, have you considered ordering your new jacket straight with regular 'cuffs' and having it adapted elsewhere? It's a tough one though - my velcro idea didn't seem suitable after reading what Peter said, although I maintain it worked a dream on my military issue fatigue jacket which served me well for years, although it was cotton not leather (but don't folks use velcro on shoes even?? - so I still can't really think how you might keep the look and have the option of adjustment.
I think it would have to be someting INSIDE the sleeve, attatched to the upturned facing of the leather. But it really might alter the durability and the drape in a negative way, so you would have to be very select with what you chose.
I have a friend who is a seamstress - I could alway ask her advice next week if you still want to pursue the idea?

Regards

Alan

IndianaJames · Post by **IndianaJames** » Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:11 pm

Thanks Al, but its no big deal....I just order them plain. Ive got a fatigue jacket as well that I wear all the time, its indestructible!
Thanks again for the offer!

James

Band Director Jones · Post by **Band Director Jones** » Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:54 pm

Kittlemeier wrote:What about hidden elastic attatched inside the sleeve? K

That is exactly what I was thinking. I have a heavy duty cotton jacket with barrel sleeves but on the inside of the sleeve, about 1.5 inches from the edge, there is a small ring of elastic that goes all the way around the inside (it is attached to the lining only). It keeps the sleeve closed around the wrist so that air does not blow up the sleeve and it does not change the outward appearance of the jacket. You can probably have this done to any jacket after the fact with very little effort. Maybe Peter would agree to that since it doen't change the look of the jacket.