Does Tony Nowak have access to a genuine ROLA hero jacket?

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Does Tony Nowak have access to a genuine ROLA hero jacket?

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I've got to ask and I believe it is a somewhat separate issue to whether Tony is going to offer a copy of one. That post is alive and healthy.

I'm sure we'd all like to know what jacket he may have had or still has access to. Just to clear up things a bit.

Of course if it is meant to be kept confidential, I apologise in advance.

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I don't think anyone here knows for sure whether it is the hero jacket or a stunt jacket. At this stage, all we can go on is the opinions of those who have seen it while visiting Tony.
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That's why I posted the question. :) A useful explanation may be forthcoming.
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Personally speaking, I'd be really surprised if he'd managed to buy a Hero jacket from Raiders as some have speculated elsewhere.

I'd be almost as surprised if he'd managed to have a loan of a Hero jacket, too. As we all know, Hero jackets from Raiders aren't exactly common.

I'd be less surprised if it was the purchase (or loan) of a stuntman jacket. After all, G&B have already set a precedent there; it's believable.
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There's no way GL would sell it for $80,000. He has no need for $80,000.
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PLATON wrote:There's no way GL would sell it for $80,000. He has no need for $80,000.
Who says it has to be GL's? _ has written that order three was identical to the hero jacket. So I guess there are 3 jackets it might be. I'm still not certain how many proper hero jackets there were - it looks like 2 to me.
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Post by crismans »

While it's fun to speculate (I'm guilty here as much as anyone), my thoughts are that, if it is a hero's jacket, it's come from some avenue that no one's thought of (or perhaps even reasonably could think of). Maybe a jacket that someone picked up that escaped the ToD purge.
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Guys, guys, guys...this whole "Nowak bought a Raiders jacket" came from Fedora who was just speaking hypothetically. He confirmed this himself.

The jacket from LFL (from what I understand) passed through the hands of a number of vendors who more than likely took pictures and measurements.

Again, this is my understanding and I would never presume that what I say is truth...if it's truth you're after, Dr. _'s class is right down the hall.
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But Cassidy, he apparently still has an original jacket, as some COW members have seen it recently. Could he have borrowed the LFL one for so long?
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Well, I signed off on some options already in post #4.

1) He's bought a Hero jacket - I'd find that unlikely, period. They're rare, uber expensive and the market for them is highly competitive - and publicised - when they sell.

2) He's loaning a Hero jacket - I'd find that reasonably unlikely, as these things tend to get shipped around under lock and key, not just given to some guy, "Here mate, have a lend of this for as long as you want..."

3) He's bought a stuntman jacket - it's possible, but still feels reasonably unlikely to me. Also shoots down the hopes and dreams of many a COW member as the G&B is already based off a stuntman jacket (and is half the price).

4) He's loaning a stuntman jacket - of the four options, this is the most likely. And, again, shoots down the hopes and dreams of many a COW member as the G&B is already based off a stuntman jacket (and is half the price).

I'll also throw a cat among the pigeons and ask if it's an actual Raiders jacket insofar as being from RotLA, or is it being referred to as a Raiders jacket, in the way that people refer to the movies as the Raiders movies, ie: a jacket from any of the movies is a "Raiders jacket" to them...? I know it seems so obvious to us (as the "uber nerds" of the gear hobby), but it's not obvious to a lot of people out there. I'd really like to know more about this situation, myself.
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I seem to recall someone mentioning that a collector in Japan had one of the Raiders jackets. (I won't differentiate between hero or stunt as their both extremely rare) Unless you're a rabid fan like us, the only reason to collect such a piece would be as an investment. Such an object would probably be at its most valuable around the time of the latest film installment. If the motivation were purely monetary, it would make sense to try to unload it now before it fades back into obscurity. With Tony's ties in Hollywood and his association with _, it's possible a willing collector was found.
As has been stated before, we may not be looking at a Raiders jacket at all. It could be a jacket from any one of the other movies. Tony admitted to not having seen any Indy film before his involvement in the Skulls project. Most people wouldn't be able to pick out one film jacket from the next if their life depended on it. It would be ironic if he had his hands on a TOD (although someone mentioned earlier that it did not have a BN label). Anyway, this is all wild speculation until the real story comes out.

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How about the original Raiders patterns? Could he have gotten hold of it? I guess I need to re-read the Raiders write up.
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Cassidy wrote:Guys, guys, guys...this whole "Nowak bought a Raiders jacket" came from Fedora who was just speaking hypothetically. He confirmed this himself.

The jacket from LFL (from what I understand) passed through the hands of a number of vendors who more than likely took pictures and measurements.

Again, this is my understanding and I would never presume that what I say is truth...if it's truth you're after, Dr. _'s class is right down the hall.
I never said he bought one, my post mentions him having access to one. Which some here have confirmed. It's a different and highly possible scenario. :wink:
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Post by Mike »

This thread is redundant and based on conjecture. Lets wait until we get the scoop and stop the speculation.

Closing this one down for now.
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