In praise of the jacket experts. (Todd's Std. XL w/ pics)
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In praise of the jacket experts. (Todd's Std. XL w/ pics)
hey, everybody- i'm not exactly "new" here (been lurking for about a year), but this is my first actual post.
as such, i'd like to use it to give a HUGE round of applause to all of you, because your expert research and insightful observations into the world of SA gear collecting has enabled me to finally accomplish my childhood dream of owning the gear that defined adventure as i was growing up- i just placed my order for my first indy jacket, and i owe you guys my thanks for providing a forum that explains all the intricate and confusing SA issues that vexed me for a long time, keeping me from feeling confident in making an indy jacket investment.
you guys are all completely heinie, and i'm thrilled to officially be a part of your community now. so, thanks- and i hope you're all doing well, out there.
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EDIT: the gear has arrived-
so far, i have to say that todd really comes through. the jacket is great quality, and the fit is pretty much perfect. these pics are showing you exactly how it looks right out of the box, no distressing whatsoever. it IS lightweight, but not at all what i was expecting based on what i'd heard around the boards- "lightweight" does NOT translate as "fragile", which is the impression a lot of people seem to have. frankly, it's exactly the weight i was looking for- spot on, todd. very pleased.
also, note that the jacket (like most leatherwear) is very hard to nail down in terms of the actual color. the pics where i used a flash, the leather appears almost black, while without the flash it's more of a warm brown... in daylight, it's closer to brown IMO.
hope this helps out some potential buyers- todd's is a perfectly viable, cost effective option- and a fine looking, very SA jacket, as well.
-Truck
as such, i'd like to use it to give a HUGE round of applause to all of you, because your expert research and insightful observations into the world of SA gear collecting has enabled me to finally accomplish my childhood dream of owning the gear that defined adventure as i was growing up- i just placed my order for my first indy jacket, and i owe you guys my thanks for providing a forum that explains all the intricate and confusing SA issues that vexed me for a long time, keeping me from feeling confident in making an indy jacket investment.
you guys are all completely heinie, and i'm thrilled to officially be a part of your community now. so, thanks- and i hope you're all doing well, out there.
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EDIT: the gear has arrived-
so far, i have to say that todd really comes through. the jacket is great quality, and the fit is pretty much perfect. these pics are showing you exactly how it looks right out of the box, no distressing whatsoever. it IS lightweight, but not at all what i was expecting based on what i'd heard around the boards- "lightweight" does NOT translate as "fragile", which is the impression a lot of people seem to have. frankly, it's exactly the weight i was looking for- spot on, todd. very pleased.
also, note that the jacket (like most leatherwear) is very hard to nail down in terms of the actual color. the pics where i used a flash, the leather appears almost black, while without the flash it's more of a warm brown... in daylight, it's closer to brown IMO.
hope this helps out some potential buyers- todd's is a perfectly viable, cost effective option- and a fine looking, very SA jacket, as well.
-Truck
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wow, can't believe i forgot to mention it. sheesh...Texan Scott wrote:....so, inquiring minds want to know....what was your selection?
i ordered a Todd's Standard- let's face it, the price is right... but more important than that (at least for me), the thing just looks SO SA for the raiders jacket... spot on, from all the photos people have posted. and generally, people seem pretty happy with them, and knowing how picky you guys can be, that was good enough for me.
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that's the impression i get, gwyddion. indy gearheads really seem to have a tight knit community and a lot of support for the artisans and craftspeople who make it all possible. who wouldn't want to be a part of this? greatest fans on earth.gwyddion wrote:You're not exactly new here, but since you have only just registered you'll be discovering that there's mor to COW than you first thought.
So, Welcome to COW: You came for the gear, but you'll stay for the people!
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Yep, not too shabby at all, this mobTruckWhatTruck wrote:who wouldn't want to be a part of this? greatest fans on earth.
At times you might come across people who get a tad too obsessive about certain topics - screen accuracy is a big one - and in the process will sometimes advertantly (or inadvertantly), hurt other people's feelings with their comments, but on the whole, things work out pretty well around here. The moderation is supreme. Very rare to see a fight and, if you do, chances are you won't see at least one of the pugilists again
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That's no excuseTruckWhatTruck wrote:notice that i said i had just ordered it, not just received it. but i'll be happy to post pics as soon as the thing arrives.JC1972 wrote:;0
this thread was really just to give you guys your props for being such a diligent and devoted bunch of fans and prop collectors.
And welcome. Good luck with the jacket. I'm sure it'll be your first of many.
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i can only say that i wasted a lot of time trying to find information about the jackets before i stumbled onto this site- you guys know your gear, no question. i've been schooled in the art of gear collecting by the people i consider to be the best- most of you guys could put the lucas archives people out of work. seriously.Rob wrote:Yep, not too shabby at all, this mobTruckWhatTruck wrote:who wouldn't want to be a part of this? greatest fans on earth.
At times you might come across people who get a tad too obsessive about certain topics - screen accuracy is a big one - and in the process will sometimes advertantly (or inadvertantly), hurt other people's feelings with their comments, but on the whole, things work out pretty well around here. The moderation is supreme.
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hahah... yeah, i haven't even GOTTEN my Todd's yet, and i'm already looking into a Wested. i guess i can look forward to having no money for the rest of my life... but at least i'll have some crazy good adventure gear.Indiana Holt wrote:welcome to the jacket nut club!
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Info here:
viewtopic.php?t=33711
It's not quite screen accurate... but there's still an interesting story behind it.
viewtopic.php?t=33711
It's not quite screen accurate... but there's still an interesting story behind it.
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SA is preferred, but i'm not what i would call "hardcore" about it. good call on the link, Rob- owe you one.Rob wrote:Info here:
viewtopic.php?t=33711
It's not quite screen accurate... but there's still an interesting story behind it.
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so far, everyone has been great. very helpful, as well. as for the money... well, i guess it just goes with the territory.jacksdad wrote:welcome, you'll like the people here everyone is really nice and helpful,and yes once you start collecting gear the money does go quick. that's what happend to me in the begining of the summer, good luck and welcome.
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good point... hopefully these will suffice for the time being. i mean... haha, it's not like there aren't already a bajillion pics of todd's jackets on this forum, right?Rob wrote:There's always the option of tossing them into some place like Photobucket or Image Shack, and then just providing the URL if you want to "go large"
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yeah, i ordered a size up- XL instead of my usual L, and as i've said, the fit is really very nice. the only thing i'm slightly worried about is that while the fit is perfect for regular midweight LS shirts, it might get a little too snug for wearing a sweater or hoodie under come late fall/winter.Texan Scott wrote:How is the Todd's jacket with sizing? Did you have to go up a size for the jacket to fit properly?
thinking about it, i suspect the reason that Todd's jackets have such a close fit is the same reason that they're so SA- that late 70s-early 80s cut style.
i'm considering ordering a 2X, then shrinking it down a bit so that i can wear it with layers this winter.
but i'll say it again, the jacket is definitely a winner.
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thanks satipo, it suits me on both counts. i'm just a tad under 6', with a chest size around 40 or 41, i *think* (to be honest, i haven't checked- i usually just wing it).Satipo wrote:Looks like a great jacket, Truck. A very good fit. What's your height and chest size?
Todd's XL seems to do pretty well for those measurements, although as i've posted before, i'm wondering about it being a little too close of a fit when it comes time to wear a sweater or hoodie with it in colder months. as it is, it's wonderful with a mid-weight LS shirt or a tshirt, and doesn't feel tight at all (the pocket space is pretty tight, but i've heard that about all the sizes).
hope this proves helpful to you.
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actually, since you can adjust the tension at the bottom with the straps, i find it more snug across the chest, but not uncomfortably so. you can kind of see it in the pic:Satipo wrote:That's great! Is the bottom of the jacket snug when zipped?
again, i guess it's important to state that obviously it's going to be a slightly different experience for every person, some with greater variance than others. but chances are that if your physique basically resembles my own, then there's a good chance that the Todd's will be a good match for you.
also, if you have the extra money to blow and jacket-fit has frequently been an issue for you, Todd's custom might be a way to go.
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Very good point to make. From the OTR sizing, I could see that the Todd's isn't a jacket for the more portly (or just plain "larger") individual. I think you would need to have a fairly "normal" shape body (ie: no big shoulders, no large belly, not overly tall, no long arms, or any combination of these), to really succeed with it. Me? I'm built like a gorilla on steroids, which is why I could never buy it for myself.
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think i'd have to agree with that, rob. this would seem to be the case for just about any jacket with that oh-so-important SA "80's cut" that we keep hearing about, and Todd's isn't an exception. for some people, it's going to be snug no matter what, and for some people it just isn't going to be a viable option period.Rob wrote:Very good point to make. From the OTR sizing, I could see that the Todd's isn't a jacket for the more portly (or just plain "larger") individual. I think you would need to have a fairly "normal" shape body (ie: no big shoulders, no large belly, not overly tall, no long arms, or any combination of these), to really succeed with it. Me? I'm built like a gorilla on steroids, which is why I could never buy it for myself.
too bad, though, since the price is right.
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I actually would prefer it to be snug around the bottom. I wouldn't want the jacket to be a bell shape, i.e. tight on the chest and loose around the waist. I don't have a big belly - I'm about a 40-41 inch chest and 31-32 inch waist, so my problem is often that things are baggy around the waist, and that can look especially strange with a leather jacket.
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see what you mean. and again, the straps make it adjustable, so that you can make it more snug if that's your preference.Satipo wrote:I actually would prefer it to be snug around the bottom. I wouldn't want the jacket to be a bell shape, i.e. tight on the chest and loose around the waist. I don't have a big belly - I'm about a 40-41 inch chest and 31-32 inch waist, so my problem is often that things are baggy around the waist, and that can look especially strange with a leather jacket.
it's worth noting that the basic design of the "indy jacket" in general means that, because of the cuts in the material in the back flap, it's not going to be as tight round the waist. if you prefer that, you might be better off with a military cut jacket instead of an "indy."
but i think you can see from the pictures, there's not much "bell" action going on there, so i still think you'd do pretty decently with a Todd's.