Special Offer Washed goat raiders??

Heyjude7 · Post by **Heyjude7** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:35 pm

Does anyone have this jacket? http://www.ekmpowershop4.com/ekmps/shop ... -115-p.asp

is it 80's fit or standard? i asked gemma for the measurements and it sounds like 80s.. just wanna confirm with you gents..

i just ordered one and i wanna know what im instore for.. all opinions and comments and pics will be appreciated!
thanks
-Jude

Post by **Holt** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:53 pm

if you read what it says on the side you will notice it says 'standard specifications' inside leather facings..

no 80's cut on these..

I had one and I have sent it back..

bests
Holt

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:26 pm

viewtopic.php?t=32972

i'm hoping it comes tomorrow.

Heyjude7 · Post by **Heyjude7** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:25 am

"Dear Jason,
Sizing details for the 40 jacket are,sleeve 24,shoulder 7,back 27,chest 42 inch's.
Cheers Gemma "

" Dear Jason,
The goatskin is still as hard wearing as the standard goatskin,measurements for the 42 jacket are sleeve 26,shoulder 7 back length 26.
Cheers Gemma"

Holt.. is there 2 inches more in the chest or 4??

Post by **Holt** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:57 am

Heyjude7 wrote:"Dear Jason,
Sizing details for the 40 jacket are,sleeve 24,shoulder 7,back 27,chest 42 inch's.
Cheers Gemma "

" Dear Jason,
The goatskin is still as hard wearing as the standard goatskin,measurements for the 42 jacket are sleeve 26,shoulder 7 back length 26.
Cheers Gemma"

Holt.. is there 2 inches more in the chest or 4??

a standard jacket has 4inches of room and a 80's cut has 2 inches of room.

fro example...a 44 regualar is measured 24 from pit to pit.thats 48 inches in totla.if a person has a chest of 44 then he will 4 inches in extra room.

a 44 80s cut has pit to pit 23'' 46 in total.if he has a chest of 44 then he will have 2 inches of room in it.

bests
Holt

HDRnR · Post by **HDRnR** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:39 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:
Heyjude7 wrote:"Dear Jason,
Sizing details for the 40 jacket are,sleeve 24,shoulder 7,back 27,chest 42 inch's.
Cheers Gemma "

" Dear Jason,
The goatskin is still as hard wearing as the standard goatskin,measurements for the 42 jacket are sleeve 26,shoulder 7 back length 26.
Cheers Gemma"

Holt.. is there 2 inches more in the chest or 4??
a standard jacket has 4inches of room and a 80's cut has 2 inches of room.

fro example...a 44 regualar is measured 24 from pit to pit.thats 48 inches in totla.if a person has a chest of 44 then he will 4 inches in extra room.

a 44 80s cut has pit to pit 23'' 46 in total.if he has a chest of 44 then he will have 2 inches of room in it.

bests
Holt

Are the ROLA's all 80's cuts ?

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:53 pm

Rola's are slightly slimmer and longer to boot. Now, I don't know if this actually equates to an 'Eighties cut' or not.

The "Rola" part refers to most often asked for requests based on the standard pattern ie: Small gauge silver zipper, small pockets, no facings on zipper, x boxes on the straps, and it should have rec sliders and, I think, smaller yoke.

It also has minimal facings on the inside pockets (2) and a zipper on the left hand one. The top of the stormflap is supposed to be rounded too.

I believe they are also cotton/satin lined although they may be all cotton.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:51 pm

a 44 special ROLA cut has a chest of 23'' pit to pit..

a 44 standard has a chest of 24'' pit to pit...cause the standard has 4 inches of extra body room and an 80's cut has 2 inches of extra body room..

so the ROLA pattern and the 80's cut pattern are the same

bests
Holt

Arca Perdida · Post by **Arca Perdida** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:48 am

Heyjude7 wrote: Sizing details for the 40 jacket are,sleeve 24,shoulder 7,back 27
Cheers Gemma "

measurements for the 42 jacket are sleeve 26,shoulder 7 back length 26.
Cheers Gemma"

so, the size 40 has a back length 1 inch longer than the 42???

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:32 am

Indiana Holt wrote:
I had one and I have sent it back..

bests
Holt

Holt, why you sent back this jacket?

:

Post by **Holt** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:11 pm

I sent it back caus eit had a production flaw on it.

I am a bit concerned about this washed hide.

I kinda have one on order.a custom raiders washed goat.Gemma just whaits on a confirmation before it is set in production....

I feel that maby this hide will pick up TOO much stress TOO fast..

I mean,...I have a a couple wahsed goat samples laying in my tee shirt drawer and just from throwing the samples in and out of the drawer they pick up too much stress....

and the samples are laying comfy and safe in my tee shirt drawer...no sharp thingies in there...

just imagine how distressed the jacket would look with normal wear after a couple months.....it would look 50 years old...

and imagine how the jacket would look in 50 years

I just dont hope that the distressed/washed hides just turn light and lifelss in a couple years..

maby it is best afterall to get a good'ol surfaced hide...

any thoughts?

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:47 pm

agreed that this hide distresses quickly as after about 1 month of normal wear and tear, there's areas that are distressing already. i don't even recall doing anything extreme to those areas or even wearing the jacket enough to wear i

i like it.....i like it alot. i don't buy jackets to last a lifetime as i am never satisfied with just one. if the jacket wears quickly then it's character continually changes, which is what keeps me interested.....now if the jacket gets destroyed....well.......isn't that the best reason to buy a new one?........instead of, "man, this seam is 1/8" too low....i'll get that right on my next custom".

my 2 centabos

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:25 pm

I don't know if I can agree with you Holt. I buy my jackets to wear now and not worry so much about 50 years distant!

I agree the washed goat might age quickly, but I don't think that means it won't last. Nobody has had one for more than a couple months so we can't know what will happen in a couple years.

My opinion is that these will both age and wear great. My choice is to not distress a jacket and let nature take its course. That said I don't want to have to wear something daily for five years to get a nicely worn jacket either. I think the washed goat will take on a decent Indy appearance after a few months of wear and then be a great companion. I also agree with what G says about having just one jacket!

Post by **Holt** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:03 pm

well...

I like the idea of really old jackets.

maby 50 years was a long throw..but say 20 years...

I have seen a 20 year old new finish goatskin and it ROCKED!!

the wahsed goat would look 20 years old in mather of weeks.months.

its kinda like steroids

quick,quick,quick

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:08 pm

I don't see it distressing much faster then pre-distressed cowhide jackets. The leather has a suede-like exterior like many of these type of treated hides have. Only time will tell how quickly it distresses.

Post by **Holt** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:21 pm

see here..

viewtopic.php?t=33799

this post by Gater,the lighter look is perfect for CS.

this is a pre.stressed jacket.so kinda the same as wahsed goat.it is well worn and it looks like the pre.stresing has really blend out with normal wear and tear..leaving the jacket even lighter then I have seen in any other pre.stressed jackets.

if the washed goat looks anything like this many years later I rather get a new finish hide.

not very raiderish..but very CSish.

whiskyman · Post by **whiskyman** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:21 pm

Those old predist jackets were a lighter colour to begin with. I had one myself and sold it because I thought it was too light.

IndyFalco · Post by **IndyFalco** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:50 pm

Heyjude7 wrote: i just ordered one and i wanna know what im instore for.. all opinions and comments and pics will be appreciated!
thanks
-Jude

your going to get nothing but AWESOMENESS with a washed goat. !!!

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:05 pm

IndyFalco wrote:your going to get nothing but AWESOMENESS with a washed goat. !!!

Allow me to second that praise!

Post by **Holt** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:19 pm

stop it you guys!!!...I am trying to decide here..you make it sound so awesome! I have until tomorrow to decide

Falco could you take some outside pictures of both you washed goats?

thanx

IndyFalco · Post by **IndyFalco** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:01 pm

Hehehe, It seems like Raider S and I are notoriously consistent with the praises of Washed Goat hide on this forum.

It's just that, dude, it's really a beautiful hide. Granted, I believe it may distress fast, but isn't that what we all want; A naturally distressed Indy jacket that looks the part?

Holt, I'll definitely take some outdoor pics. I'll have them posted tomorrow.
Is there any specific aspect of the jacket you'd like a pic of?

SpeedRcrX · Post by **SpeedRcrX** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:16 am

IndyFalco wrote:Hehehe, It seems like Raider S and I are notoriously consistent with the praises of Washed Goat hide on this forum.

That's why I ordered a custom washed goat

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:27 am

IndyFalco wrote:I believe it may distress fast, but isn't that what we all want; A naturally distressed Indy jacket that looks the part?

Gentlemen, please don't forget that ARTIFICIAL DISTRESSING looks the part, not natural distressing, as only artificial d. is SA. If you don't want SA, then go with natural.

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:15 pm

I got my washed goat LC in today and the leather is fantastic. Really, I think it's my favorite leather of any I've held so far. I'm not sure about how it well it will age but it absolutely rocks right now (and I'm pretty sure that it will look and hold up well for a long time).

I can certainly see the allure of a jacket that you've had forever, a companion where all the distressing that's on it came from you wearing it. That really appeals to me on a lot of levels. The problem is that I love these jackets so much that I can't just get one and you can't wear in a jacket wearing it once a week.

Anyway, back on topic, get this washed goat! It's superb.

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:17 pm

Please post some pics!

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:47 pm

crismans wrote:Anyway, back on topic, get this washed goat! It's superb.

Crismans, you really think it's nice? I was lying to you all those times I was pressuring you to buy the washed goat because I hate it so much!

Honestly, do you see what I was talking about now? The leather is SWEEEET!!!

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:29 pm

Raider S wrote:
crismans wrote:Anyway, back on topic, get this washed goat! It's superb.
Crismans, you really think it's nice? I was lying to you all those times I was pressuring you to buy the washed goat because I hate it so much!

Honestly, do you see what I was talking about now? The leather is SWEEEET!!!

You are not a liar, sir! This is a really great leather. Like I said, probably my favorite that I've had so far.

IndyFalco · Post by **IndyFalco** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:19 am

Raider S wrote:
crismans wrote: Honestly, do you see what I was talking about now? The leather is SWEEEET!!!

WORD

IndyFalco · Post by **IndyFalco** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:25 am

crismans, welcome to the Washed Goat owners club.
Now you, Raider S, and I can go *Peer Pressure* ..*cough* I mean enlighten.... people about the awesomeness of the washed goat. It's definitely a sleeper within our midst.

Strones... Strones... I know you'll be hella content with the washed goat
*peer pressure*

whiskyman · Post by **whiskyman** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:33 am

Mine should be arriving early in the coming week. I sent back the washed lamb as too fragile, and after much musing settled on the washed goat.

So I'd LOVE to see more outdoor pics of some of you wearing these jackets!!!!

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:39 am

IndyFalco wrote:
Strones... Strones... I know you'll be hella content with the washed goat
*peer pressure*

MHHMHHHH....... GRRRRRR......... :evil: :evil: :evil:

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:23 am

whiskyman wrote:Mine should be arriving early in the coming week. I sent back the washed lamb as too fragile, and after much musing settled on the washed goat.

So I'd LOVE to see more outdoor pics of some of you wearing these jackets!!!!

I'll try to get some taken this afternoon.

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:01 am

Crismans, I dare you not to fall too in love with the washed goat!

Wait till you start wearing it - it really just feels awesome and the LC design is great for real-world use.

Post by **Holt** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:58 am

hmm?...

washed goat in raiders or LC?

I kinda feel that the washed goat is pretty good for LC to.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:32 am

IndyFalco wrote:
Holt, I'll definitely take some outdoor pics. I'll have them posted tomorrow.
Is there any specific aspect of the jacket you'd like a pic of?

c'mon dude..show me some..

show me anything..but outdoor

SpeedRcrX · Post by **SpeedRcrX** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:53 am

Me too I would like to see some pics, it will help me wait for my own Washed Goat Jacket

Arca Perdida · Post by **Arca Perdida** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:59 pm

Raider S wrote:the LC design is great for real-world use.

What do you mean by that?

Kevin Anderson · Post by **Kevin Anderson** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:05 pm

I know exactly what it means...hard to explain though!
I've said before that the LC jacket seems more appropriate for me in 2008...maybe it's the extra length, the bagginess, I'm not sure. I just know as much as I love the look of a Raiders jacket, it's the LC that I wear every day.

crismans · Post by **crismans** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:46 pm

Here we go:

My washed lamb on the left, washed goat on the right. It's cloudy here today so no direct sunlight. Also, while I was switching out the D rings on my lamb for rec. sliders, I accidentally tore a couple of small holes in the strap. Nothing that affects the straps integrity and you can't even see them. But it did get me to worrying as some parts of the leather were pretty dry (the straps felt like sandpaper to me). So, in the interests of preserving the jacket, I sprayed it down with a leather dressing creme (which it drank up like nobody's business). I lost a little bit of the washed look but I don't think too much of it and the leather feels much "healthier" if that makes sense.

SpeedRcrX · Post by **SpeedRcrX** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:54 pm

thanks for the photos, these jackets are beautiful !
But, I like the look of the goat better than the lamb

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:27 pm

wow.I really love that color on the lamb!

thanks Crismans for the photos.

this will help me decide on what kinda hide I want.

Holt

Raider S · Post by **Raider S** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:44 pm

I think Crismans meant to say the washed goat was on the right - the darker colored jacket. That is the LC.

Kevin, you are 100% correct in what I was trying to say about the LC style for everyday wear.

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:59 pm

LC seems to have very big pockets.

Bemo · Post by **Bemo** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:50 pm

Crismans,

The LC is the washed goat? Just want to make sure. Thanks

Peace.

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:17 pm

Bemo wrote:Crismans,

The LC is the washed goat?

Yes it is.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:21 pm

the washed lamb looks thick..kinda looks like horsehide..nice!

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:26 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:the washed lamb looks thick..kinda looks like horsehide..nice!

But it's a wrong impression, because it's very thin and delicate... I made a small cut with my nail while just handling the jacket.

Post by **Holt** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:44 pm

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:48 pm

strones, you cut through the jacket?

like there is a hole in it now? with your nails?

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crismans · Post by **crismans** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:58 pm

Hey all,

I went for a drive and got hopelessly lost. I don't understand, the directions said to turn right...

Anyway, I've corrected my mistake. It is the washed lamb on the left and goat on the right (LC). The goat is far and away my favorite but, after some small intitial misgivings, I'm growing fond of the lamb. It just acts like the Raiders jacket to me. I'm really glad that I used the leather cream on it, and I feel that it helped out the leather a lot. Made it feel more tough without losing much of the washed look

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