is westeds dark brown the thinnest and most fragile leather?

Post by **Holt** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:02 pm

anyone?

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:05 pm

Why would a color be fragile?

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:12 pm

Odd question. Do you want it to be?

It the same as authentic brown, just a different colour!

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:14 pm

I just order one myself! I think KT is right, simply a different dye....

Post by **Holt** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:16 pm

I know..I found a way old thread and this was a topic they talked about.....

even peter ranked the leathers.DB lamb was at the bottom and then authentic brown lamb.cowhide.etc.you get the idea..

so thats why I ask again...

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:28 pm

a lot has changed since then, the washed lamb is probably the least strong, then the 1st version of the rola as they were quite thin, then regular lamb etc etc

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:30 pm

Chewbacca Jones wrote:Why would a color be fragile?

Good point.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:40 pm

Never go back into the 'old' posts and use some of those bits of information when it comes to sourced materials, expecially when it comes to leather. Sources dry up, and tanneries close, requiring manufacturers to find new sources and companies that sell it.

I don't know of many items for sale today that are still made with the same materials that we had available 6 years ago.

Regards! Michaelson

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:01 pm

Michaelson wrote:Never go back into the 'old' posts and use some of those bits of information when it comes to sourced materials, expecially when it comes to leather. Sources dry up, and tanneries close, requiring manufacturers to find new sources and companies that sell it.

I don't know of many items for sale today that are still made with the same materials that we had available 6 years ago.

Regards! Michaelson

That makes a lot of sense Michaelson. My new Wested lamb is considerably nicer quality than one I owned in 2003. It could be just me but I think it's different leather. Higher quality in my opinion.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:08 pm

A lot of his leather is out of Italy and South America now, so the quality of that product has REALLY improved over the last few years.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Holt** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:16 pm

thanks guys

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:27 pm

Michaelson wrote:A lot of his leather is out of Italy and South America now, so the quality of that product has REALLY improved over the last few years.

Regards! Michaelson

I knew it!

It's just so soft and buttery I want to sleep in it!

And my fiance doesn't understand why I had to have 2! SIGH

Puppetboy · Post by **Puppetboy** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:25 pm

A lot is fuss is made about the durability of different kinds of leather. By durability do you mean longevity, abrasion resistance, or tear resistance?

The thickness of leather has little to do with it's tear resistance. Kangaroo is a thin leather, yet naturally tough. Kevin Costners pants in "Waterworld" were covered with fish skin (Universal Studios uses fish skin for their stunt show!). The animal, the tannage, and the finish have everything to do with durability, not thickness.

Leather hides constantly changing. The hides vary within the same production run, they vary from season to season, and year to year.

Enough lecture from me about leather. Perhaps instead of speculating about "which leather is tougher" it would be wiser to judge by reports of leather failing. The truth is, not many people rip their jackets (percentage-wise).

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:04 pm

Puppetboy wrote:A lot is fuss is made about the durability of different kinds of leather. By durability do you mean longevity, abrasion resistance, or tear resistance?

The thickness of leather has little to do with it's tear resistance. Kangaroo is a thin leather, yet naturally tough. Kevin Costners pants in "Waterworld" were covered with fish skin (Universal Studios uses fish skin for their stunt show!). The animal, the tannage, and the finish have everything to do with durability, not thickness.

Leather hides constantly changing. The hides vary within the same production run, they vary from season to season, and year to year.

Enough lecture from me about leather. Perhaps instead of speculating about "which leather is tougher" it would be wiser to judge by reports of leather failing. The truth is, not many people rip their jackets (percentage-wise).

Todd is absolutely correct in this. Each leather type has general characteristics, but a hide is not a hide, depending on all the variances that Todd mentioned.