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Nylon Kotcs whip

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Hi everyone!
I want to introduce you my new KOTCS bullwhip. It has two bellies inside and 16 plt overlay. The point is 6 plaited. What is uncommon in nylon whips, it has redhide fall. I will test it tomorrow and I' ll tell you how it cracks.
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The whip is coyote brown (like saddle tan in leather whips) and 7x6 turksheads are black.
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Post by Bardoon »

wrong thread to sell things, put this in the bazaar.

looks nice though.
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That is very beautiful...
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Post by TurnerME »

Looks great.

I would test the redhide fall out, but go with a nylon one. Just to keep the bad weather use aspect in place. I have been making my falls with a complete piece of paracord inside a hollow piece. I find it adds a little extra weight. I also gave up on using the inner-strands for poppers.

Keep up the nice work, your plaiting looks super tight.
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Post by Kentucky Blues »

I'd say it's okay here. The whip may be for sale, and he may be advertising it here, but this thread seems to be more about the whip itself. I would suggest that he post an ad in the cairo bizzare too though :). AND... the whip looks awesome, how long is it?

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8 ft as usual Indy :). Sorry I'll change my first post, I understand - no advertising here.
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Can I ask why 16plait?

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Post by tomek9210 »

It has two bellies - 6 and 10 plt and I think that 12 strands will not cover it good. 16 are perfect. I know that you make your whips with one belly and 12 plt top plait but IMO those with two bellies inside are heavier and handle better. I made three whips with one belly but when I made 16 plt one I knew that is it - weight, taper and handling are much better.
6 strand point before fall I can explain too - I just hate dropping from 6 to 4 (I can't do it well 8) ) so I tried finish with 6 and it looks good, the hitch isn't too big.
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It was just a question not a critisism Tom :D there are no right or wrong answers in whipmaking just many different patterns


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Post by tomek9210 »

I know but I just want to write about it :D
Tony, I saw your new website and I have to admit that it is amazing! The matched pair leather and nylon are the best idea I' ve ever seen by nylon whips.
Could you explain what is stratum foundationing :wink: ? I hear this first time 8)
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LOL :D Tom it's just a play on words and a joke between myself and Steve Huntress (Jabahut70) it just means layering


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LOL, I was thinking - what does he put into his whips :D ?! It can really mislead people, and I am best example of your play on words 8)
Tony - how much weight your nylons? Do you put lead under turksheads? In this whip above I put circa 60 grams of lead and it is really well balanced. Did you ever try leather falls and bolster in nylons? Leather fall for me is better than paracord fall because of weight and accuracy. Bolsters I will try in my next whips - braided sleeves for wires and cables, which are highly recommended by PyramidBlaster 8)
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Post by jabahutt70 »

Yes, "Stratum Foundationing" is a patent-pending, revolutionary method that will take nylon whips into the next realm of whipmaking!

:lol: right.

Variety is the spice of life, and sometimes new words help make common terms sound a bit more interesting.

Btw Tomek, whip looks good!

Steve.
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Tom if you look on the site the Young Indy has a redhide fall but as a general rule most folks buying a Nylon from me are doing so because they want to wet weather crack so they prefer nylon falls.....the secret with nylon falls and accuracy is not to make the fall over 18 inches I've found....

Bolsters I've done lots of experiments in the past and I'm very happy with the way I make my nylon whips and how they perform using the "Stratum Foundationing" method....

One thing that did turn out good you could try is to construct your core in an 8plait then instead of going over it in the normal 12 use a thick veg tanned kip bolster then straight over the top in a 16plait......I did a few this way and they were nice whips but not for commercial sale I didn't think....


I have a couple of word documents here if you'd like them Tom, it's a tutorial that I did for the A.P.W.A and shows how I construct a nylon from start to finish.....If I had time and was technical enough to know how I'd do it as a post here and make it sticky....

It's not something I'd done in the days you used to email me or I'd of sent it over then, anyway if you want it email me and I'll fire it over to you

Best Wishes

Tony :D
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twice my email has bounced from your account Tom???

cnp; 500 (Proba dostarczenia listu do pelnej skrzynki / Attempting to deliver to full mailbox)

You need to sort this out your end then I'll send it again

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I deleted the messages so You can send me new PMs.
Nice that you like my whip :) Thanks for comments!
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