If my head is round, how can I get the swoop??!!??

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:53 pm

So I've got a Magnoli HJ arriving very very soon (as far as I understand it). My question is this: I've got a very round head. Does that pretty much take me out of the running in terms of achieving the swoop via the turn? What can I do to remedy this and at least obtain some degree of swoop? Simply curl the brim on the right side as much as I can? What can us round headed folks do???

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:18 pm

I still think you should get the turn. You may have to turn it a bit more than most. I don't think your head looks like this from above, O

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:21 pm

True Oak, but it sure is close. I just don't want to overly distort the hat in the process. But I will trust what you say as I realize you know what you're doing much more than I do!

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:24 pm

Another question for you OAk-

If you're bashing a hat idol grab style, are you shipping it out with a super tight pinch? Let's say it needs to be re-done to accommodate a rounder head shape. Is the crease too strong at that point?

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:22 pm

Idol grab is a very tight crease or any raiders for that fact. I would suggest to get it open crown and call me. I'll walk you though the creasing.

MustangLoverMex · Post by **MustangLoverMex** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:35 pm

I have exactly the same problem Indyrocks! My head it's pretty round, and because of this, lots of hats doesn't fit me. The brim loses it's "natural" shape.
In order to solve that, I always go with a hat specialist in order to put that shape in the hat.
In fact I was considering to send to Steve the shape of my head, to put it in my AB. (NOTE: I get the shape of my head by using a wood thing made specially for that... it has lots of moving parts that has some "needles" at the top, they put cardboard and press it... in that way, you get exactly your shape... btw my head isn't symmetrical

)
Regards,
-Alfonso

morethanatimelord · Post by **morethanatimelord** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:54 am

i have the same problem, all i did was curl the brim sides a little and i was happy with that, i think you need a really nice good quality hat to achive the classic turn and pull it off.

heres my hat that after months of messing around with im finally comfortable with it

Mitch LaRue · Post by **Mitch LaRue** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:26 am

morethanatimelord,
THAT is a very handsome lid!
It fits (and suits) you well.
Mitch

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:28 am

Thanks for the feedback guys! I have a Magnoli HJ on the way so we'll see what kind of luck I can get. I actually haven't owned anything but a fed III the past few years due to the fact I was on a college budget. Now that I'm a big boy with a job I can finally splurge on some quality lids.

Oak-I think you know I'm on your list, but have a while to wait anyways. I might just take you up on that offer, which I appreciate very much! I'll see how things go with the HJ regarding the turn and go from there. I might have just enough of an oval so I'll keep my fingers crossed!

(My neck hurts from staring at the top of my head in the mirror! Doh!

)

MustangLoverMex · Post by **MustangLoverMex** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:40 am

morethanatimelord wrote:i have the same problem, all i did was curl the brim sides a little and i was happy with that, i think you need a really nice good quality hat to achive the classic turn and pull it off.

heres my hat that after months of messing around with im finally comfortable with it

I did pretty much the same thing...

And works for me too haha.

Best Regards,
-Alfonso

morethanatimelord · Post by **morethanatimelord** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:05 am

Mitch LaRue wrote:morethanatimelord,
THAT is a very handsome lid!
It fits (and suits) you well.
Mitch

thanks mitch

. not totally happy with the crown i dunno theres just something that doesnt look right to me but on the whole im happy and nearly always wear it

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:25 am

I'm sorry there is no turn that hat. I don't think you understand what the Raiders turn is.If the hat was turned, the front end of the bow would be closer to the front of the hat.

Piers · Post by **Piers** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:49 am

Once turned, I've read that the ribbon can be rotated back by itself, keeping it in the proper place, no matter how turned the hat itself is

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:56 am

Usualy the ribon is tacked into place with some stiches, so usualy you can't turn the ribon back.

Regards, Geert

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:43 am

http://www.theraider.net/showimage.php? ... ts/039.jpg

Yea look how forward the bow is here.

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:45 am

I wonder why my avatar got booted? It was under 100 x 100 for sure I spent like 20 minutes changing it? Sorry I know this is off topic but does anyone know?

morethanatimelord · Post by **morethanatimelord** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:48 am

BendingOak wrote:I'm sorry there is no turn that hat. I don't think you understand what the Raiders turn is.If the hat was turned, the front end of the bow would be closer to the front of the hat.

i know there is no turn on these hats i dont believe i said there was

...i tried remember but got it wrong. i just curled the sides of the brim up abit

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:10 am

morethanatimelord wrote:
BendingOak wrote:I'm sorry there is no turn that hat. I don't think you understand what the Raiders turn is.If the hat was turned, the front end of the bow would be closer to the front of the hat.

i know there is no turn on these hats i dont believe i said there was ...i tried remember but got it wrong. i just curled the sides of the brim up abit

I don't understand when you say you got it wrong? Can you explain please?

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:22 am

BendingOak wrote: I don't understand when you say you got it wrong? Can you explain please?

Hey BendingOak, I remember that discussion.

It was a few months back. He had a question about the turn and in the end it turned out that he had not quite understood what the turn was. As he had already put a Raiders-bash in the hat he decided to keep it un-turned and work on the brim.

It was also the thread in which Bink said that he would add some information to the FAQ thread about the turn when he had the time.

Regards, Geert

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:55 am

Same guy?

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:57 am

yep, same guy.

Regards, Geert

MustangLoverMex · Post by **MustangLoverMex** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:52 pm

In my case, I didn't mean to have "The Turn" in my hat... just the fact that due to the shape of my head, everytime a use a "regular" hat (with an oval shape) the brim loses it's "natural" shape and it looks like some kind of "road-kill"

and by doing that little curve, the brim doesn't "deforms" or do funny things...

Regards,
-Alfonso

Piker · Post by **Piker** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:20 pm

indyrocks wrote:So I've got a Magnoli HJ arriving very very soon (as far as I understand it). My question is this: I've got a very round head. Does that pretty much take me out of the running in terms of achieving the swoop via the turn? What can I do to remedy this and at least obtain some degree of swoop? Simply curl the brim on the right side as much as I can? What can us round headed folks do???

U R Hosed!

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:27 pm

Piker wrote:U R Hosed!

I don't get it....?

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:29 pm

I think he's just joking, indyrocks. If you have a very round head, it may be more difficult to achieve the swoop via the turn, since the turn/swoop effect has a lot to do with the shape of your head against the hat.

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:33 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:I think he's just joking, indyrocks. If you have a very round head, it may be more difficult to achieve the swoop via the turn, since the turn/swoop effect has a lot to do with the shape of your head against the hat.

Ah yes yes I figured....Well I'll just have to wait and see. My neck hurts from looking in the mirror at the top of my head so I'll wait to try on the hat once I get it. Which will hopefully be very very soon....

3thoubucks · Post by **3thoubucks** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:37 am

The more you turn the hat, the closer you get to wearing a round oval, and this would help the brim not distort. And, if you put padding behind the sweat, only in the front and back, that would give you a longer oval head, in effect. You might then get the brim swoop you were looking for before. Move the paddding to keep it in front and back as you turn the hat. The padding will tighten up the hat, but these videos prove the Raiders hat was very tight. viewtopic.php?t=33266

morethanatimelord · Post by **morethanatimelord** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:20 am

BendingOak wrote:
morethanatimelord wrote:
BendingOak wrote:I'm sorry there is no turn that hat. I don't think you understand what the Raiders turn is.If the hat was turned, the front end of the bow would be closer to the front of the hat.

i know there is no turn on these hats i dont believe i said there was ...i tried remember but got it wrong. i just curled the sides of the brim up abit
I don't understand when you say you got it wrong? Can you explain please?

oh dear

do you not remember the long thread i started about the turn? i misunderstood how the turn was done being a novice at these things and didnt do it properly. i did explain all this in the turn thread a bit back

gwyddion · Post by **gwyddion** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:30 am

morethanatimelord wrote:
BendingOak wrote:
morethanatimelord wrote:
BendingOak wrote:I'm sorry there is no turn that hat. I don't think you understand what the Raiders turn is.If the hat was turned, the front end of the bow would be closer to the front of the hat.

i know there is no turn on these hats i dont believe i said there was ...i tried remember but got it wrong. i just curled the sides of the brim up abit
I don't understand when you say you got it wrong? Can you explain please?

oh lord help me

do you not remember the long thread i started about the turn? i misunderstood how the turn was done being a novice at these things and didnt do it properly. i did explain all this in the turn thread a bit back

I already explained it to him:

gwyddion wrote:
Hey BendingOak, I remember that discussion.

It was a few months back. He had a question about the turn and in the end it turned out that he had not quite understood what the turn was. As he had already put a Raiders-bash in the hat he decided to keep it un-turned and work on the brim.

It was also the thread in which Bink said that he would add some information to the FAQ thread about the turn when he had the time.

Regards, Geert

BendingOak wrote:Same guy?

gwyddion wrote:yep, same guy.

Regards, Geert

So he knows what the deal with your hat is.

Regards, Geert

indyrocks · Post by **indyrocks** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:01 am

So Ford never pushed the ribbon back correct? He couldn't have since it was stitched on.... Would it be fair to say it's easiest to detect when the hat is turned by looking at the shots of him straight on and seeing how far forward the ribbon is?

Also-forgive me if I should know this, but is there a turn in LC?

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:21 am

No turn in Last Crusade.

Dave

morethanatimelord · Post by **morethanatimelord** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:37 pm

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I already explained it to him:
[So he knows what the deal with your hat is.

Regards, Geert[/quote]

sorry geert i missed that post

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:43 pm

The bow should be a tip off if the hat is turn but if looking head on you should see it in the brim.

If my head is round, how can I get the swoop??!!??

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