Model 22, Model of 1917 - S&W Classics

Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:24 pm

For anyone interested, at a local gun dealer here in Springfield, IL, I saw a new Model 22, Model of 1917 - S&W Classic.
They said they would ship anywhere and the cost is only $787.99

I have the phone number if anyone is interested.
just send me an email at
chriscamp@thewhipguy.com

C

Luke Warmwater · Post by **Luke Warmwater** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:55 am

That's about $300 less than the MSRP.

Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:11 pm

That's what I was thinkin'.

theinterchange · Post by **theinterchange** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:15 am

I was looking on gunbroker.com at .22 revolvers and this one came up.. I honestly thought they now made a .22 in the 1917 style as the auction didn't state it was indeed a variation of the 1917 .45.

it only mentioned 22 several times and I thought they were meaning .22

It looks like a nice gun. what's the difference between it and the regular 1917's?

Wraith1031 · Post by **Wraith1031** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:24 pm

It's basically a re-issue of that style.

Luke Warmwater · Post by **Luke Warmwater** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:35 pm

theinterchange wrote:It looks like a nice gun. what's the difference between it and the regular 1917's?

The date of manufacture, essentially.

norton · Post by **norton** » Fri May 09, 2008 5:43 pm

theinterchange wrote:It looks like a nice gun. what's the difference between it and the regular 1917's?

The model 22 has a shrouded ejection rod and lacks a lanyard loop, although I believe one can be added.

I have one and really like it. I had been waiting for S&W to come out with a Mountain Gun in .45 ACP because I prefer the tapered barrel to the barrel on S&W's model 625. I didn't care if it was historically accurate and I like the protection the shroud provides the ejection rod. When I saw the model 22 was out I had to have it.

The full moon clips are really convenient. I use plastic ones that are easy to load and unload, they're lighter and easier to use than speed loaders.

IndyFrench · Post by **IndyFrench** » Sat May 10, 2008 6:17 pm

Actually norton, S&W has released TWO Model 22s - One is the one you described, but the other is called Model 22 of 1917 and has all of the Raiders features.

Here's mine - stock.

serrecuir · Post by **serrecuir** » Tue May 13, 2008 4:03 pm

Here's my Model 22 of 1917, also stock. I just picked this one up about a month ago.

-Craig

Crusader556 · Post by **Crusader556** » Thu May 15, 2008 9:17 am

The new S&W Classic line looks very nice. I really like the 4" M22 in .45 ACP!

I know it might not be screen accurate but I think of it a the "Raider's" handgun.

Shagbd · Post by **Shagbd** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:49 pm

isnt the 4" one more accurate than the logner barrled one? i mean i know it doesnt have a lanyard loop but thats alot easier to ADD than to try to chop the barrel of hte other

Lelander · Post by **Lelander** » Fri May 23, 2008 2:29 am

The ejector rod on the 4" is not the same as that on the 1917; however, they are both great looking guns!

Shagbd · Post by **Shagbd** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:01 pm

Oh duh!
its shrouded !!

My bad

its pretty expensive to have a barrel chopped, recrowned, polished and blued to match... eh

bigrex · Post by **bigrex** » Mon May 26, 2008 1:36 am

Here's my Indy-esque gun, S&W model 22 with the 4" barrel, not a 1917 replica but rather a model 1950 replica:

Lelander · Post by **Lelander** » Wed May 28, 2008 3:49 pm

Shagbd wrote:Oh duh!
its shrouded !!

My bad

its pretty expensive to have a barrel chopped, recrowned, polished and blued to match... eh

Isn't the tip on Indy's HE2 bare for that exact reason? Or maybe I'm remembering wrong.

Personally I prefer the look of a shrouded barrel, but then you lose the Indy mojo.

Solent MKIII · Post by **Solent MKIII** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:48 am

I put one of the blued M22 models on layaway last month.
While it contains some non-Indy features ( the shrouded ejector
and lack of a lanyard ring ), I was sold on the 4'' length.
No gunsmithing required! Has that short, mean, Raiders look right
out of the box! I was considering the S&W stock 1917, but that
slightly longer barrel bugged me just enough to purchase the
M22 instead ( not bad-mouthing the stock model - I almost bought it! )

Nice color-cased M22 ya' got there, bigrex! Reminds me of the
factory finish used on a lot of those old west guns. :junior:

rbinko2001 · Post by **rbinko2001** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:10 am

Does the 4" M22 .45ACP model fit into any of the Indiana Jones holsters?

Lee Keppler · Post by **Lee Keppler** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:56 pm

Yes! It fits my standard 4" ROTLA Holster very nicely.

rbinko2001 · Post by **rbinko2001** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:16 pm

Thanks for the info.

Solent MKIII · Post by **Solent MKIII** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:53 am

Gonna have to get a Raiders-style holster by next Monday when I pick up
my M22, otherwise it won't have a proper bed to sleep in!

:junior:

thefish · Post by **thefish** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:28 am

The other major difference in the modern Model 22 1917, and an original one is that rather than having a firing pin on the hammer, it uses a modern transfer system where the firing pin is mounted in the frame and the hammer hits it and pushes the firing pin forward to strike the primer.

Little safer and sturdier than the original system. Less likely for the gun to go off if it's dropped.

Just thought I'd add that as no one has brought it up.

I'd been looking at antique Webleys, (because if I'm going to pay for a gun, it's going to fire REAL bullets...) but I'm seriously looking at the Model 22 1917 now, for reasons that go beyond Indiana Jones. Just a darn nice firearm...

Kaplan · Post by **Kaplan** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:42 am

I just picked up a model 22 of 1917 for $525. You can get one cheap if you know where to look.

thefish · Post by **thefish** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:45 am

Yepper...Been eyeing them a lot lately myself....

A lot...

More than you think...

MUST SELL COMIC BOOKS! NEED CASH FOR GUNS AND WHIPS!

-Dan

CSG · Post by **CSG** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:41 pm

Hey Kaplan, I'd love to know where I could get one for half of retail. Can you clue us all in on "where to look"?

thefish · Post by **thefish** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:50 pm

I've seen them occasionally go for about that brand new on the Firearms equivalent of "The 'Bay."

The only thing with that is, you have to either have an FFL license or have it transferred to a business who does, (any local gun shop, and you can do a search on that auction site to find one near you.) Those businesses typically charge between $10-15 bucks to do it, but $10-15 bucks more for half-retail is STILL pretty awesome!

-Dan

Bowie · Post by **Bowie** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:13 pm

CURSE YOU CLUB OBI WAN!!

I couldn't have stumbled across this thread at a worse time. I have been selling gear & knives left & right to come up with the dough to by a M22 1917 classic. And now I am absolutely salivating for one!!!!

In all seriousness, thank you guys for the info, and Craig that IS a sweet piece. Congrats my brother, I am

pigirondan · Post by **pigirondan** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:25 pm

The Model 22 is one mafa of a fighting handgun.

serrecuir · Post by **serrecuir** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:37 pm

Bowie wrote:In all seriousness, thank you guys for the info, and Craig that IS a sweet piece. Congrats my brother, I am

Thank you, Bowie! I picked up a pair of vintage HE grips too and just put those on. Now I just have to find a 4" barrel to have a SA pistol. But I love firing this with the 5 1/2" barrel - much more accurate and reduces some (not much) of the kick. The Classic model is a brute too - you'll love taking that to the range!

-Craig

CSG · Post by **CSG** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:12 pm

BTW, if you have an N frame S&W and want to get closer to "the look", S&W will sell you the same grips they're using on the Model 22's for $55. Round or square butt according to Larry at Customer Service.

IndyFlyer · Post by **IndyFlyer** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:33 am

The Model 22 of 1917 is a reissue of the post war guns made from 1946-1950, which originated from the original Model of 1917. I think the only differences between the original two are the year and the grips, and of course no US Army stamps.

pigirondan · Post by **pigirondan** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:06 am

IndyFlyer wrote:The Model 22 of 1917 is a reissue of the post war guns made from 1946-1950, which originated from the original Model of 1917. I think the only differences between the original two are the year and the grips, and of course no US Army stamps.

That, and an internal lock.

Solent MKIII · Post by **Solent MKIII** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:56 am

Got mine!

Picked up my M22-4 at the end of last month - this revolver is just too cool!
It has a nice balance and a good, hefty weight in the hand. S&W has really
done a beautiful job on these new 1917's, the tapered barrel, correct grips,
and deep bluing really stand out. Hopefully, I'll be able to give her a go in a
couple of weeks ( gotta work in the meantime )

That's it! Looking forward to knocking down some bowling pins at the local range
soon ( I should try to set up one pin with a black fedora and some glasses ) :junior:

hocfutue · Post by **hocfutue** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:32 pm

A fine looking revolver! If you don't have one already, I heartily recommend investing in a moon clip tool (check midwayusa.com, cheaperthandirt.com, or just google it. It'll save a lot of wear and tear on your fingers, clips, and cases.

If anyone needs blanks for their Indu pistols, I've been very pleased with the rounds from www.joeswansonsmotionpictureblanks.com. Well-made, burn clean, and LOUD. I've used them for years in my Webley.

No, I don't work for nor have a stake in any of the mentioned sites.

Kaplan · Post by **Kaplan** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:35 pm

CSG wrote:Hey Kaplan, I'd love to know where I could get one for half of retail. Can you clue us all in on "where to look"?

Join the S&W forum. Go to the classifieds section, and wait for the situation to present itself. That's what I did. And a little patience paid off.

RobocopIndy · Post by **RobocopIndy** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:18 pm

Kaplan wrote:Join the S&W forum. Go to the classifieds section, and wait for the situation to present itself. That's what I did. And a little patience paid off.

S&W forum... but where?!?

pigirondan · Post by **pigirondan** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:57 am

RobocopIndy wrote:
Kaplan wrote:Join the S&W forum. Go to the classifieds section, and wait for the situation to present itself. That's what I did. And a little patience paid off.
S&W forum... but where?!?

The Internet.

RobocopIndy · Post by **RobocopIndy** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:22 pm

Kaplan, I assume you went here:

http://www.smith-wessonforum.com/

RobocopIndy · Post by **RobocopIndy** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:34 pm

Kaplan wrote:I just picked up a model 22 of 1917 for $525. You can get one cheap if you know where to look.

Was that because it was a Brazilian? There's one on gunbroker.com now for that price range.

Kaplan · Post by **Kaplan** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:31 am

RobocopIndy wrote:
Kaplan wrote:I just picked up a model 22 of 1917 for $525. You can get one cheap if you know where to look.
Was that because it was a Brazilian? There's one on gunbroker.com now for that price range.

No. I bought an unfired brand new model 22 of 1917 for $525 from a member of the S&W forum.

If you buy a Brazilian, beware. I have yet to see one that looked like it hadn't gone to heck and back. They are notorious for being abused. If you find one that looks good on the outside, you should look closely at the inside.
Just a word to the wise.

Kaplan · Post by **Kaplan** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:38 am

Here's some eye candy:

I attached some Keith Brown made grips.

Here's his website:
http://www.classiccarvedgrips.com/

The extra barrel you see is the one I am going to attach to it and cut down to 4 inches.

RobocopIndy · Post by **RobocopIndy** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:44 pm

Nice!! Everywhere I look, new ones are no less than $700.

Rich Johnson · Post by **Rich Johnson** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:08 am

A neat Idea would be to see if S&W would sell a new barrel to ya. couldnt be much, then cut it down to fit on even an origianl S&W M1917.

Also, in case you like the full length, I have a colt M1917 that I bought at a discount price because it was beat up, well it doesnt fire too well

, but that aside, it doesnt fit in the raiders style holster, the barrels are too long on factory length M1917s.
Lee Kepler at Adventure Supply made me a totally awesome longer length holster to fit my colt M1917. THe longer holster also fits an M1911 very well too.

Indiana Williams · Post by **Indiana Williams** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:38 am

Thats what Im looking forward to for my next birthday. getting a M1917.

serrecuir · Post by **serrecuir** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:07 pm

Rich Johnson wrote:A neat Idea would be to see if S&W would sell a new barrel to ya. couldnt be much, then cut it down to fit on even an origianl S&W M1917.

Rich,

I called S&W direct last week - they do sell a replacement barrel for the Model 22 of 1917. It's $208. I'm going to get one and have it cut down, like Kaplan.

Kaplan, who is going to do the barrel cutdown for you? I'm looking for someone who can do the job. Any info you have would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards,
Craig

Kaplan · Post by **Kaplan** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:42 am

serrecuir wrote:
Kaplan, who is going to do the barrel cutdown for you? I'm looking for someone who can do the job. Any info you have would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards,
Craig

I am getting a gunsmith here in Southern New Mexico to do the job. If you want his info, PM me. BUT! I must warn you... be prepared to wait longer than you would for an AB. It would be best to find someone in your local town who can cut and swap the barrel.

pigirondan · Post by **pigirondan** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:21 pm

I have the Thunder Ranch Model 22. It came with the Thunder Ranch magna grips. Initially, I used the magnas, I found them unsatisfactory. Then I added a Tyler T-grip, better, but still not right. Next, I put on Pachmayr, better still, but just not what I was looking for.

I reached Nirvana with a pair of S&W N-frame target grips. Shooting bliss.

gunsmith · Post by **gunsmith** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:31 am

here are some pics of the job I did for Indy30 on his 1917. Enjoy.
I will do the work right, at a reasonable cost, on time.
Don't be afraid of one that is rough on the inside. Part of what I do is time, and smooth the gun to perfection. I am a pistolsmith first. There is nothing that can happen (other than being smashed) to a Smith that i can't fix. Fast. I may have to get parts, but they will fit right.

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