Raiders - Jacket closed ?

mooniteman · Post by **mooniteman** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:04 am

Hey guys I want to send some references to Wested of how i want my Jacket to look so I need good reference pics on what Indy's Jacket looks like closed and how tight it would be - anyone got pics?

Thanks!

AJ

Piers · Post by **Piers** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:05 am

The only time I can think of was in Raven's bar. Might be a bit off in the scenes with Marion, as he had a pair of gloves stuff in the right pocket

CairoIndy · Post by **CairoIndy** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:40 am

mooniteman · Post by **mooniteman** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:54 pm

Thanks guys!

JimL · Post by **JimL** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:45 pm

That third photo is interestig... The holster is outside the jacket...

Good shots!

Chewie Louie · Post by **Chewie Louie** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:49 pm

Piers wrote:

Every time I see this pic . . . why, oh why, didn't she punch him in CS???? The smile was there, but no punch. I saw it again for the third time and again, I was expecting the punch.

Oh yeah, the jacket looks great. I always saw the Radiers jacket as being a little on the snug side.

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:55 pm

Mooniteman do you really think that sending these pics to Wested they will make you a perfect fit jacket???

mooniteman · Post by **mooniteman** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:33 pm

... no

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:55 pm

J!m wrote:That third photo is interestig... The holster is outside the jacket...

Good shots!

That tends to happen when you close the jacket, I've noticed.

AJ, pop in the Raiders DVD and go to the Raven bar scene, when Indy and Marrion are standing at the bar. As she walkes over to the table, Indy turns and you get a great front view of the jacket.

mooniteman · Post by **mooniteman** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:12 pm

AJ, pop in the Raiders DVD and go to the Raven bar scene, when Indy and Marrion are standing at the bar. As she walkes over to the table, Indy turns and you get a great front view of the jacket.

Will do!

Rundquist · Post by **Rundquist** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:28 pm

CairoIndy wrote:

I gotta say that you'll never get this look unless you have the exact same body type as Ford did when this was taken. In the Making of Indiana Jones book there is a photo of Ford without his shirt, taken at about the same angle as the one above, and most of what you are seeing above is all Ford. I'd say 90% is Ford and 10% is the jacket. In fact, even though there were some differences in the jacket from film to film, I would say that most of "the look" in each movie was due to Ford's body at the particular time of the shooting of each movie. If you don't have the body, there's nothing that Peter can do for you (or anyone else for that matter). You can't make a "Silk purse out of a sow's ear" as they say.

PS- I'm sure that these pics will really help Peter. I don't think that he makes too many of these things.

Sorry. I couldn't help myself.

Kentucky Blues · Post by **Kentucky Blues** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:50 pm

Chewie Louie- I think that passing up Indy to hug the kid Indy was with was a punch in the jaw enough for him.

Indiana Strones- I think he wants the pictures for his own reference for when he supplies info to Peter

-KB

YARVTON · Post by **YARVTON** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:01 pm

Well, it keeps the jacket-makers in business.... Unlike, say, the A-2, which was designed for airmen in general -- and also isn't the best choice for those over certain dimensions -- the Indy jacket was tweaked to be the most flattering garment for one particular, nicely-built but not over-muscled actor. It's more than made-to-measure; it's a true "custom" piece.

St. Dumas · Post by **St. Dumas** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:09 pm

Moonite, is what you're mainly looking for a good fit around the torso? If so, I'd imagine you best bet is to supply Peter with very accurate chest and shoulder measurements, and maybe tell Peter that you want it to fit snug when zipped up. That might be your best avenue short of having Peter actually measure you himself.

SD

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:15 pm

St. Dumas wrote:Moonite, is what you're mainly looking for a good fit around the torso? If so, I'd imagine you best bet is to supply Peter with very accurate chest and shoulder measurements, and maybe tell Peter that you want it to fit snug when zipped up. That might be your best avenue short of having Peter actually measure you himself.

SD

Shoulder, chest and waist. In addition to the usual back length and sleeve length.

Height, and weight too.

JimL · Post by **JimL** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:22 pm

I'd amend Waist to "gut" if you have one- important point being, chest, measured normally, and the widest part of your midsection for the lower portion of the jacket.

If you measure above or below your widest point, you will only be kidding yourself, and the fit will not be right. the jacket will end up looking too small for you.

if you guys watch (and I know you all do) "What not to wear" the people on there always look worse wearing what size they think they are, versus what size they actually are. And size varies with maker, so measurements (or trying on) is always the way to go, if you can.

Not aimed at anyone in particular, just saying this should be kept in mind.

I assume this is what was meant by "Waist".

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:34 pm

J!m wrote:
I assume this is what was meant by "Waist".

lol, speak for yourself. I LIKE the stuffed sausage look!

...

...

j/k j/k!!

Though I don't think mooniteman has much of a 'gut' problem.

JimL · Post by **JimL** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:42 pm

Well, I don't either...

but I have a friend who fits the "stuffed sausage" description fairly well when he zips his moto jacket up...

YARVTON · Post by **YARVTON** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:15 pm

For many, the Bottom Sweep measurement may be most important. If you have a Beer Belly, better measure around that. And might as well measure around the rump.

mooniteman · Post by **mooniteman** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:23 pm

No beer belly - I'm really skinny - (think gymnast)

Kevin Anderson · Post by **Kevin Anderson** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:31 am

Gymnasts are anything but skinny! Maybe watch the Olympics in August!
They tend to have very broad shoulders. Unless you meant the women gymnasts?

Although, even some of those...

mooniteman · Post by **mooniteman** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:04 am

Think comic book spiderman - lol

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:23 am

Those are good pics. When I ordered my first Wested from Peter 10 years ago I expressed some concern about getting just the right fit and he told me that his Raider's jacket was a very forgiving jacket so there should be not problem. In my case he was right, and now after having a couple of his jackets as well as other vendors, and watching the movies with a less obsessive eye, I believe the Raider's jacket isn't as slim fitting as alot of people think. Now when I watch it, I see a much more relaxed fitting jacket. Notice that pic of Indy leveling his gun at Toht, jacket zipped up nearly to the collar. It looks like there is some play in that jacket, not straining from the shoulders to the zipper.

If you're going to be punching Nazis, you don't want your jacket slowing down your swing!

Weston

CM · Post by CM » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:31 am

Key lesson from these photos. The jacket is roomy. It is not tight. It is not slim. It is not "fitted close". It is a medium size jacket, sitting on a medium sized torso. The leather is obviously thin and very malliable, so it drapes in that special ROTLA way here, where on the stiffer LC jacket it does not drape all that much at all.

CM · Post by CM » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:48 am

mooniteman wrote:Think comic book spiderman - lol

That guy is huge!

YARVTON · Post by **YARVTON** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:14 am

The real measurement to get would be Harrison chest size vs. the actual jacket measurement. Then you would know just how tight/loose the fit was meant to be.

JimL · Post by **JimL** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:28 am

When he's in NY he and I always get together for a coffee.

I'll ask him what his size was back in '81 and see what he says.

(I wish I could do that!)

Raiders - Jacket closed ?

Raiders - Jacket closed ?

90% is Ford

a "gut" problem

Tight-fitting Jacket on Slim Indy