My first hat is here...a Magnoli HJ
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My first hat is here...a Magnoli HJ
After long anticipation my Magnoli/AB/HJ is here. It was like opening a x-mas gift and now my gear is complete with this hat even though I have two more coming. The work by Steve is great and I absolutely love this hat. I guess hats come when you least expect it. I was not expecting it to come as I was not sure when Steve was getting some new felts in. I ordered January 24th or so. Here is my picture of me wearing the hat. What do you guys think?? I am working on the brim to try to get the hat to look like what indy wears. Any help on that?? The bash is an idol grab, and I have been working with it a little bit. Steve pretty much had it dead on, I just removed the turn since that is one scene I think that there is no turn, or if there is it is pretty small. Let me know opinions, or things I may need to do or buy for this hat. Where is a good place to buy a hat brush and something to keep the hat from shrinking to much?? Let me know your comments/opinions/suggestions and I will try to put up some side pictures and back pictures later.
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Awesome hat IndianaChris! I hope you enjoy it as much as I've been enjoying mine. Same idol grab bash and everything...more pics are needed though. Also, what steps have you been taking to tweek it? As for the turn, it's just preferance but the idol grab did have a bit of turn to it. I asked Steve durring a conversation once if I had to specify if I wanted the turn or not and he said only if I didn't want the turn in a look that had it, otherwise he knew what bashes had the turn and which didn't.
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Wow, Thanks for the compliments and comments guys. I have put up a few more pictures of the hat. Sorry that the color may look a little off on those last three, kind of had a busy weekend and took a few pictures inside with some bright light on.
Johnny Fedora, I basically tweaked the bash a bit, the felt is a bit floppy and some of the bash came out a little bit during shipping. I just pucnhed it out and rebashed, so it probably got some good memory back from Steve's bash. As far as turn in the idol bash, there might be just a little, but looks pretty straight to me.
Venkman, ya it actually should have been less, but it was worth the wait anyway. Can't wait to see your hat.
IndigoJuliet, ya it is an awesome hat, you will be excited when it comes. I was not thinking I would even get this hat now, and it shows up to my house. Just awesome, hopefully yours will be getting there soon.
Mufflowne, where you getting your hats from?? Can't wait to see them.
I think the hat makes the difference, without people think maybe I was Indy or not, when I got all geared up to go show a friend and there was these kids outside and I turned around and I could hear "Hey Indy.." I guess this is only the beginning. Thanks again guys for the compliments and again thanks Steve on making a outstanding hat.
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Johnny Fedora, I basically tweaked the bash a bit, the felt is a bit floppy and some of the bash came out a little bit during shipping. I just pucnhed it out and rebashed, so it probably got some good memory back from Steve's bash. As far as turn in the idol bash, there might be just a little, but looks pretty straight to me.
Venkman, ya it actually should have been less, but it was worth the wait anyway. Can't wait to see your hat.
IndigoJuliet, ya it is an awesome hat, you will be excited when it comes. I was not thinking I would even get this hat now, and it shows up to my house. Just awesome, hopefully yours will be getting there soon.
Mufflowne, where you getting your hats from?? Can't wait to see them.
I think the hat makes the difference, without people think maybe I was Indy or not, when I got all geared up to go show a friend and there was these kids outside and I turned around and I could hear "Hey Indy.." I guess this is only the beginning. Thanks again guys for the compliments and again thanks Steve on making a outstanding hat.
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These pics make the Magnoli hat look the best.
I've learned the hard way, as my first was a factory HJ Poet (from Todd) that I immediately messed up, then I got a Fed Deluxe, and now I'm waiting on a Christy's Adventurer and a Grey Camptown (not even sure which model at this point, it's in talks).
I might have to pick one of these up too, sometime. It looks really really really really really really really really really really good.
I've learned the hard way, as my first was a factory HJ Poet (from Todd) that I immediately messed up, then I got a Fed Deluxe, and now I'm waiting on a Christy's Adventurer and a Grey Camptown (not even sure which model at this point, it's in talks).
I might have to pick one of these up too, sometime. It looks really really really really really really really really really really good.
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Nice hat.
Dang...now I want one.
Good work!
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Wow, seems like this thread has gotten a lot of people interested. I really love the Magnoli HJ, I would say it is the hat I wear the most often. I pretty much wear it on days that are not raining and as long as it is not like 90 degrees or higher outside. When I first got the hat it was just a bit big, now it has shrunk to fit my head fairly nicely, not too snug, but not too loose. I will have to get some pictures up of it sometime this week. Nothing much has changed really, right now it is opened crowned for the moment, I will put the raiders bash back on anyway, but just wanted to make sure I get the turn on my hat right this next time around. Anyway, if your looking for a Raiders hat I would go with this one. It does cost a little over $300 but it is well worth it. Sorry I have not back to you guys, I was on vacation visiting family. I am back now so I will try to get you guys some pics of the hat what it looks like now this week sometime.DanielJones wrote:IC: Now that you've had yours for several months what do you think? Has is shaped to your noggin & fit even better? Is it your daily wearer?
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The Hat is very soft, extremely floppy, you can bash the hat with your hands and with no water, you may want to use a little cold water if your bash does not stay the way you want it, but the felt is extremely soft. I would definately get one of these if you got around $300 bucks to shell out, it is a great hat and definately has the raiders look all the way.Got Maul wrote:I love the color on that !! How soft is it ?
Nice hat indeed. Since Optimo no longer carries my color, I am thinking of going this route !
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To answer your question, yes the hat is tall like 5.5 inch crown. I don't know how much taller your wanting it?? My head does not hit the top of the hat, there really is not that deep of a crease in the top part anyway. When I first put the hat on my mom said that is a really big hat, meaning tall. I am not sure if it is cause I have a really big head, 23 7/8 inches. But that is all I have on your answer, yes it is a tall hat and meet the 5.5 inch crown height in Raiders.IndyFalco wrote:IndianaChris,
Is the hat TALL? does it feel tall? Does the top of you head ever touch the top of the hat?
Random questions, I know. But I'm on the verge of ordering one, and I'd like to know if it's a TALL hat.
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Explain HJ and Magnoli to the un-anointed please!
I see that Todd's Costumes offers an HJ fedora, as well as Indy Magnoli. Who does whatt to the hat? Does one hat have more detail than the other? I'd like an HJ, but I'm not sure what I'm getting or who to go with.
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Re: Explain HJ and Magnoli to the un-anointed please!
I suggest you read this thread... viewtopic.php?t=25584&start=0&postdays= ... ghlight=hjIndiana Jake wrote:I see that Todd's Costumes offers an HJ fedora, as well as Indy Magnoli. Who does whatt to the hat? Does one hat have more detail than the other? I'd like an HJ, but I'm not sure what I'm getting or who to go with.
As for a quick answer the Magnoli HJ is the superior offering, to wit...
Oh, and...Johnny Fedora wrote: Gladly...I only own one of the two hats mentioned but without question, my answer would be the Magnoli Clothiers Herbert Johnson. As far as I understand Todd offers a great product but it is just a stock Poet manufactured by HJ, sent to Todd open crowned and styled as you like. The Magnoli Clothiers HJ consists of a Poet hat body, and all of the parts of the hat separate. These parts are then sent to Fedora. The hat is then blocked by Steve using his old Raiders block, (turned if you wish) assembled, trimmed, ribboned, bowed (using the correct ribbon that only he and Marc can get), and then styled anyway you like. Oh, also, the stock Poet is a little more difficult to reblock as the sweat is sewn on by a machine thus creating a perforation along which it could tear off the brim during a reblock. The MC HJ's sweat is hand sewn allowing an easer/less nerve wracking reblock.
Johnny Fedora wrote:...What we're discussing here are specs, and pros and cons to compare and contrast the two hats. When it comes down to it the IM/HJ happens to be the superior offering do to the different construction methods used in making the thing. Todd may even have found a more accurate block (maybe even Steve's Raider's block available at Lamond's) but it's still a factory built Poet. As such it has all of the other problems that are inherent to that hat already mentioned in this and other posts.BendingOak is right and that's something I failed to mention. Steve also repounces, sands and then irons while on the block the rabbit felt raw hat bodies he receives from HJ. This not only results in a finer more accurate finish to the felt but helps to stabilize the rabbit, making it more weather and taper resistant. Is it the same as the steps he and Marc employ to "kill" the felt in a beaver AB? No, but it does greatly extend the life span of this hat and I don't freak out if caught out in some snow. I couldn't say that same about a stock Poet hat. Look, at the end of the day we all choose the hat that works for us, but consider this, a stock open crowned and styled by Todd, HJ is $299.00 open crowned,$318.95 styled, and $323.95 styled SoC fashion, and then whatever shipping and handling would be. For $305.00 (shipped) I got a hat that looks like the hat I wanted, hand made by a craftsman who knows these hats (perhaps more than he can reveal now ) intmately, that will last longer before returning to the cone shape that all hats start as (and then reblocked safely). When it all comes down to it...I'm not a wealthy person and so the responsible choice for me, was the Magnoli Clothiers Herbert Johnson fedora.BendingOak wrote:I'm sorry if you can't tell the differnce in felts (AB & Todd's HJ). The HJ has to much air in it. It's almost like a spounge. As for the AB, it's very dense felt but still smooth and soft.
Hope that helps.
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Actually, your right, I do need to post a couple of more angles. I have a couple of new pics I'll have to post in the morning. As for the look of the crown that might have to do with the proportions used to make the thing look good on my darnd round face. As far as the stiching, I never noticed that before. Best to ask Steve himself about that.
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That is interesting about the stitching. I didn't notice the stitching in the middle of the ribbon of Chris's hat until it was mentioned. You guys definitely have some eyes for that stuff!
I looked at the hats on Mags website and couldn't see where the stitching is placed on the ribbon on the sable hat, but on the charcoal, I can see the stitching is at the bottom of the ribbon.
Either way, its a nice hat!!
I looked at the hats on Mags website and couldn't see where the stitching is placed on the ribbon on the sable hat, but on the charcoal, I can see the stitching is at the bottom of the ribbon.
Either way, its a nice hat!!