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Club Obi Wan*WhipMakers Workshop* Profile Janine Fraser
After a long lay off from this forum (my apologies to all and including STAFF with my noticeable absence) , I thought it would be appropriate to kick off a new concept of doing a themed introduction and profile of the Whip Makers that are part of the community here at COW. It's a way to showcase the "old timers", the legends, the soon to become legends, the new whip makers that are seriously making whips, etc. That way we can get more of an interaction from our whip makers, myself and the ever growing community of whip crackers that are about to get a new whip, whip maintenance, what types of whips to buy, etc. Maybe we can even create a FAQ so that questions that come up can be easily referenced via a FAQ.
This month's Whip Makers Workshop "Profile" is an introduction of a fine whip maker from the land Down Under, Janine Fraser. She secretly joined COW a few months ago and I promised her that I would embarrass her by profiling her first. She is so shy!!!
Before I get into her version of the Bio, let me say a few good things about our fine lady from Australia (Crocodile Janine!!!). I have heard of Janine Fraser whips for over the past year now from other serious whip crackers that have bought her whips. Her reputation spread fast and currently she supplies her stock whips to Mark Allen at Western Stage Props.
To set the stage, a little background on Western Stage Props is appropriate. Mark Allen sells hundreds of whips a year, with most of his clientele being in the professional stunt or performing business. The gear they buy has to be high quality and reliable. Mark stands by all the products he sells and to make into Mark's catalog says something. In fact I have seen vendors pulled out of the catalog when quality became an issue. Mark has zero patience for this, since customer satisfaction is Job #1 at WSP. So Janine, for now only makes stock whips but my understanding she wants to do bullwhips soon. Her whip making on the stock whips are greaaaaatttt! The whips are very responsive and practically crack themselves. You can buy her whips directly from WSP or through her. She has to be the most customer focused whip maker out there. I am not slamming any whip maker when I say this. But Janine personally called me, or IM?ed me so many times just to make sure she was building the whip I WANTED.
Part of my fascination with my hobby in whip cracking, whip making is getting to know all the facets of making a whip, actually learning all the different people that are all over the world and getting to know a lot folk lore. What Janine brings is the wonderful spirit of Down Under. Every person I have met from there has been very colorful and just a joy to converse with. What Janine brings to the folk lore of whip making is the Scobie Hitch Knot on the handle. She did not develop the Scobie Knot, Alec Scobie did and he has since died. Janine revived this very complicated knot and to my knowledge is the only one making the Scobie style knot.
Anyway without further ado, the following is her own personal biography, followed by pictures of Janine and my matched pair of 6 foot stockwhips made by Janine:
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I live in a place called Gundowring, in the foot hills of the famed "Australian High Plains". I currently have two working dogs Bes an Australia Red Kelpie and Fair Dinkum my Australian Cattle Dog (Blue heeler) which I am currently training up with my whips. I have an Australian Stockhorse, Arab x, Palomino mare named "Honey" who I do all my cattle mustering on in the high plains, and here at home in the bush were may mates run Hereford cattle. Honey is currently helping a great little whipcracker and mate of mine, by the name of Steph Griffiths learn how ride and cut cattle out while doing stockwork at her home in Bowmans Forest where her family breeds Hereford cattle.
I first started making whips out of necessity after returning from my first sojourn to the high country mustering a mates cattle. The continuous use of an old, unbalanced whip of unknown origin, left me believing a better quality tool must surely be available. In fact I decided to make my own. And so the fascination with whips began!
After a while I decided I needed to learn how to crack whips properly and from there I went on to compete in whipcracking. By competing I started to really understand and develop what is now known as the "Fraserwhip" style. Along with cracking allot of the whips that were around, I talked to the competitors to get their input and views on their needs for whipcracking. Basically I really tried to get down to the nitty gritty of the flow and action of the whips that were being used by the competitor at that time, and from there I tried to create a whip in "my opinion" which is ergonomic to the user.
I was fortunate enough to participated in the Opening Ceremony of the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games. Where 40 of us cracked our stockwhips in a synchronised display of whipcracking to music. Currently I am a full time whipmaker working from my home in Victoria Australia. I'm extremely passionate about my job and thoroughly enjoy cracking whips with my mates over a barbie and a beer.
Hoo Roo - Janine Fraser
Janine taking a break at her dairy farm?
These were the hides that were selected for my 6 footers.
Cutting out of the hides:
The infamous Scobie Knots at the end of the handle:
Stockwhip #1 (This one I named Janine) )
Stockwhip #2 (This one I named "The Fraser") )
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Please give Janine a warm welcome to our community. Remember she is shy. So be nice, or " I'll Cut Ya". ) Just kidding.
-Sergei
This month's Whip Makers Workshop "Profile" is an introduction of a fine whip maker from the land Down Under, Janine Fraser. She secretly joined COW a few months ago and I promised her that I would embarrass her by profiling her first. She is so shy!!!
Before I get into her version of the Bio, let me say a few good things about our fine lady from Australia (Crocodile Janine!!!). I have heard of Janine Fraser whips for over the past year now from other serious whip crackers that have bought her whips. Her reputation spread fast and currently she supplies her stock whips to Mark Allen at Western Stage Props.
To set the stage, a little background on Western Stage Props is appropriate. Mark Allen sells hundreds of whips a year, with most of his clientele being in the professional stunt or performing business. The gear they buy has to be high quality and reliable. Mark stands by all the products he sells and to make into Mark's catalog says something. In fact I have seen vendors pulled out of the catalog when quality became an issue. Mark has zero patience for this, since customer satisfaction is Job #1 at WSP. So Janine, for now only makes stock whips but my understanding she wants to do bullwhips soon. Her whip making on the stock whips are greaaaaatttt! The whips are very responsive and practically crack themselves. You can buy her whips directly from WSP or through her. She has to be the most customer focused whip maker out there. I am not slamming any whip maker when I say this. But Janine personally called me, or IM?ed me so many times just to make sure she was building the whip I WANTED.
Part of my fascination with my hobby in whip cracking, whip making is getting to know all the facets of making a whip, actually learning all the different people that are all over the world and getting to know a lot folk lore. What Janine brings is the wonderful spirit of Down Under. Every person I have met from there has been very colorful and just a joy to converse with. What Janine brings to the folk lore of whip making is the Scobie Hitch Knot on the handle. She did not develop the Scobie Knot, Alec Scobie did and he has since died. Janine revived this very complicated knot and to my knowledge is the only one making the Scobie style knot.
Anyway without further ado, the following is her own personal biography, followed by pictures of Janine and my matched pair of 6 foot stockwhips made by Janine:
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I live in a place called Gundowring, in the foot hills of the famed "Australian High Plains". I currently have two working dogs Bes an Australia Red Kelpie and Fair Dinkum my Australian Cattle Dog (Blue heeler) which I am currently training up with my whips. I have an Australian Stockhorse, Arab x, Palomino mare named "Honey" who I do all my cattle mustering on in the high plains, and here at home in the bush were may mates run Hereford cattle. Honey is currently helping a great little whipcracker and mate of mine, by the name of Steph Griffiths learn how ride and cut cattle out while doing stockwork at her home in Bowmans Forest where her family breeds Hereford cattle.
I first started making whips out of necessity after returning from my first sojourn to the high country mustering a mates cattle. The continuous use of an old, unbalanced whip of unknown origin, left me believing a better quality tool must surely be available. In fact I decided to make my own. And so the fascination with whips began!
After a while I decided I needed to learn how to crack whips properly and from there I went on to compete in whipcracking. By competing I started to really understand and develop what is now known as the "Fraserwhip" style. Along with cracking allot of the whips that were around, I talked to the competitors to get their input and views on their needs for whipcracking. Basically I really tried to get down to the nitty gritty of the flow and action of the whips that were being used by the competitor at that time, and from there I tried to create a whip in "my opinion" which is ergonomic to the user.
I was fortunate enough to participated in the Opening Ceremony of the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games. Where 40 of us cracked our stockwhips in a synchronised display of whipcracking to music. Currently I am a full time whipmaker working from my home in Victoria Australia. I'm extremely passionate about my job and thoroughly enjoy cracking whips with my mates over a barbie and a beer.
Hoo Roo - Janine Fraser
Janine taking a break at her dairy farm?
These were the hides that were selected for my 6 footers.
Cutting out of the hides:
The infamous Scobie Knots at the end of the handle:
Stockwhip #1 (This one I named Janine) )
Stockwhip #2 (This one I named "The Fraser") )
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Please give Janine a warm welcome to our community. Remember she is shy. So be nice, or " I'll Cut Ya". ) Just kidding.
-Sergei
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Your wish is my command!
Check the Scobie Knot out. It's the knot at the end of the handle. Quite complex and excellently crafted.
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Holy Smoke Sergei. Those ARE Beautiful. So simple in design. The color is real nice. When will I ever stop wanting????
The bio is such a great idea. As a lot of us know, there is so much more out there than just the "Indy" whip.
So the question for me is ....
How much for the pair and how long to get to ya.
You can pm me if you like.
I'll talk with you soon.
All the best,
Canasta
MAN! I think I just drooled on my keyboard.
The bio is such a great idea. As a lot of us know, there is so much more out there than just the "Indy" whip.
So the question for me is ....
How much for the pair and how long to get to ya.
You can pm me if you like.
I'll talk with you soon.
All the best,
Canasta
MAN! I think I just drooled on my keyboard.
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Nope. Just email and she is a "chatter", as in using IM. )Indiana Texas-girl wrote:Does she have a website?
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Howdy Janine
Welcome to COW and long time no hear. Glad to see you around. I love your whips and hope to have a pair of yours someday.
Don't be so shy around these blokes!
Don't be so shy around these blokes!
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Just got off the phone with Canasta. One thing to add, that Canasta wanted me to verify, was Janine's plaiting is very similar to Mike Murphy. What I am saying is that when I first picked up a Murphy whip, I never touched a whip before where the thong felt "reptillian", you know as in a snake. Mike gets his laces nice and tight by skiving the leather on both sides to get them to lay nice and tight. In addition, he runs all his hides through a leather splitter that provides a very uniform thickness. As a result, you get what I call the "reptillian" feel. Canasta asked me if Janine's whips felt the same. The answer was, exactly like a Murphy in feel. I just thought I add this part to the whip story.
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G'day
G'day all!
Well if I wasn’t shy then, I sure am now mate!
Thank you Sergei for your very favorable note of introduction it was very nice of you to do that and yes im embarrassed mate; actually im still blushing. I can see my mates givin' me curry about that "Crocodile Janine" thing. I have already had one cheeky bugger Im'ing me with "G'day Croc"! I think you've started something here Sergei ya rat bag!
Thankyou all for your warm welcomes and encouraging comments they are much appreciated. I don’t know how to post a pic of the close up of the scobie hitch but if someone can help me out I would be happy to post one or two if you like. Even better still i may be able to email them to Sergei and he might help me out.
Arrr sorry, I currently don’t have a website for my whips. If you want to email me or pm me please feel free to introduce yourself and we can have a bit of a chin wag! Alternatively like Sergei said my whips are available though Mark Allen and he has my whips shown on his website.
Again thanks for the into and hope you all get a chance to crack a stockwhip while your getting around check’in y'r traps!
Hey Sergei i have heard my whips discribed in many ways mate; but i have to say "reptillian"! is a newie and a pretty cool one ....err i think!hahah.
Well if I wasn’t shy then, I sure am now mate!
Thank you Sergei for your very favorable note of introduction it was very nice of you to do that and yes im embarrassed mate; actually im still blushing. I can see my mates givin' me curry about that "Crocodile Janine" thing. I have already had one cheeky bugger Im'ing me with "G'day Croc"! I think you've started something here Sergei ya rat bag!
Thankyou all for your warm welcomes and encouraging comments they are much appreciated. I don’t know how to post a pic of the close up of the scobie hitch but if someone can help me out I would be happy to post one or two if you like. Even better still i may be able to email them to Sergei and he might help me out.
Arrr sorry, I currently don’t have a website for my whips. If you want to email me or pm me please feel free to introduce yourself and we can have a bit of a chin wag! Alternatively like Sergei said my whips are available though Mark Allen and he has my whips shown on his website.
Again thanks for the into and hope you all get a chance to crack a stockwhip while your getting around check’in y'r traps!
Hey Sergei i have heard my whips discribed in many ways mate; but i have to say "reptillian"! is a newie and a pretty cool one ....err i think!hahah.
Welcome aboard Janine! Great profile, and I enjoy how your Austrailian "accent" comes through in your posts... gotta love the colorful colloquialisms!
Here's a question, though... not being familiar with stock whips, what is the knot of thick leather for at the end of the handle?... I'm not talking about the butt end, but the top of the handle, before it goes into the body of the whip.
Mike
Here's a question, though... not being familiar with stock whips, what is the knot of thick leather for at the end of the handle?... I'm not talking about the butt end, but the top of the handle, before it goes into the body of the whip.
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G'day Mike
What Accent mate! You blokes are the ones with the accent. I have a shocker of a time trying to understand you fellas mostly. haha
Im just being "me" mate; hopefully we can have a chat one day and you'll hear that im the same day in day out, .....gets a bit boring being me everyday.
The knot of leather at the end of the handle is know as the "keeper" this is were the attachment of handle to thong is. The keeper is what makes the stockwhip the stockwhip so to speak. ill try get another pic sent to sergei of a whip not attached to hanlde yet if you like so you can see the two seperate pieces that make up a stockwhip.
Hope that has answered your question Mike. Fire away if you have any....? that is.
Im just being "me" mate; hopefully we can have a chat one day and you'll hear that im the same day in day out, .....gets a bit boring being me everyday.
The knot of leather at the end of the handle is know as the "keeper" this is were the attachment of handle to thong is. The keeper is what makes the stockwhip the stockwhip so to speak. ill try get another pic sent to sergei of a whip not attached to hanlde yet if you like so you can see the two seperate pieces that make up a stockwhip.
Hope that has answered your question Mike. Fire away if you have any....? that is.
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Wooo! mate thoes are some wonderfull whips!
That knot looks like it takes a heckuva long
time to do. Welcome to Club Obi Wan Mate!
between you me and the fence post (actually
everyone here)
im also a whip maker
Mola
*who did his best job at a aussie accent just to be nice*
That knot looks like it takes a heckuva long
time to do. Welcome to Club Obi Wan Mate!
between you me and the fence post (actually
everyone here)
im also a whip maker
Mola
*who did his best job at a aussie accent just to be nice*
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Scobie hitch
Yeah that scobie takes about 1 1/2 hrs each to tie it. Thanks for your welcome to the group mola. You did great with the aussie accent! Next you'll be having a stubbie of VB and a barbie with us mate!
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Ah but your a sweetheart Jim
Ah.... but your a sweetheart Jim and a sourse of inspiration to me mate! You have the courage to stand behind your work and i admire that in s bloke! Havent you improved too mate.....wooo hoooo im gonna have to get a pair of those ECwhip's before they all run out!!! Your work really says something for itself and i hear so many good reports about your whips Jim. Good on ya! Your a great mate Jim.