Waiting for my Magnoli..want to Raiders bash my DP...advice?

Indycrazy5187 · Post by **Indycrazy5187** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:20 pm

I'll take any help i can get

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:28 pm

I have seen some good looking fur DPs bashed with a Raiders pinch, but the wool ones look terrible with a Raiders pinch, IMO. I would leave it how it is, just wait for the Mag/HJ as best you can and then you'll have THE Raiders hat.

Dave

mufflowne · Post by **mufflowne** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:18 pm

If you have a fur-felt DP, there is a way to bash it raiders, but your hat will look tattered and won't be screen accurate anyway. What you wanna do is just steam the #### out of the crown and then pop the bashes out, and try to flatten the pre-bashed bashes out as much as you can.

Or you can take it somewhere for a reblock.

Weston · Post by **Weston** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:37 pm

I would recommend not doing it. I think a DP can pull off the ToD style really well, but just doesn't have the fullness in the crown necessary for a good Raider's style. It's like this: No matter how much he puffs out his chest and swaggers, Rob Schnieder will never look like The Rock. The material is just not there to work with.

That said, I actually really like the ToD style. And when I had a DP, I tried to make it a Raider's, never being satisfied with the look, and ended up ruining the hat. I know if I had gone with ToD I would have been much happier.

Weston

Piker · Post by **Piker** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:30 pm

Burn it and dance around, nekid.

Indycrazy5187 · Post by **Indycrazy5187** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:06 pm

Piker wrote:Burn it and dance around, nekid.

maybe i'll do that when I get my Mag HJ

Indycrazy5187 · Post by **Indycrazy5187** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:09 pm

My DP is fur felt so maybe ill steam it...may be not...im just really bored with it and want to try at bashing...i've never done it before so i'm sure it wouldn't look right anyway but who knows

Indiana · Post by **Indiana** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:26 am

If it really is fur felt, give it a try. I've seen some fur felt DP's look decent after a good makeover.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:39 am

Indycrazy5187 wrote:
Piker wrote:Burn it and dance around, nekid.
maybe i'll do that when I get my Mag HJ

you're gonna do that to the mag hj???

cool.....can you tape it and post it on youtube?

Indycrazy5187 · Post by **Indycrazy5187** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:17 am

Indiana G wrote:
Indycrazy5187 wrote:
Piker wrote:Burn it and dance around, nekid.
maybe i'll do that when I get my Mag HJ
you're gonna do that to the mag hj???

cool.....can you tape it and post it on youtube?

oops...maybe i mislead you..i will do that to the DP...Magnoli will be my pride and joy

The Penitent Man · Post by **The Penitent Man** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:50 am

Indycrazy is my brother..We ordered our Mag HJ/AB's at the same time. I have a dorfman IJ 554 i bought before I found the "Lost City made of Solid Gold". While we wait for our Filet Mignon...I figured we could play with this chuck steak hat...I actually would like to see if i could pull off a CS/LC look...just need to know how to remove and replace the liner..sweatband and ribbon, as well as the process to rebash the hat..and if th ecost of materials is worth it!!

IndyFalco · Post by **IndyFalco** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:48 am

I recently helped a fellow C.O.W re-bash his DP fur-felt. I personally, find the DP Fur-Felt Fedora as a very capable hat. I love it. Therefore, I shall help out a fellow DP owner.

Here's a link to pics of my Fedora.
viewtopic.php?t=29098

and here's the step by step process on how to re-bash your DP Fedora

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Hey I'll absolutely help you out !!! Just a question, is it a fur felt, right?
Cause if it's a wool, we've got a whole different ball game going on

As far as how I did it, You don't really nothing more than water and your hands.

1st, You need to make the hat into an "open crown" form.
but.... the Dorfmans already come with that ugly telescope shape and that horrible pinch in the front.

So, go to your facet and get your hand drenched in water ( don't be afraid to have a lot of water, the more, the better) Now, pop the telescope and the pinch out and start wetting the entire areas that have the grooves. Place your other hand (don't wet the inside of the hat) inside the hat and start pressing every out. Remove every groove. Apply water on the spots that you feel needs it.

In other words, make your hat look round "open crown". Now you'll probably notice by now that once you apply a little water on hat and press everything out, the hat is pretty easy to manipulate.

2nd, So now that you've achieve an "Open Crown" look let it dry for a couple minutes. 15 minutes will do. This way the Fur Felt can begin to memorize it's new shape and won't fall back to it's original bash. If your a little anxious, you can use a blow dryer, you'll get the same results but the felt could come out with a little discoloring ( then again, it'll give it an aged felt look)

3rd, the bash. Look up pictures of Indy's Fedora. The ones you need right now are any that show the top of indy's hat.

Your looking for something like this.

Now, your hat is still in "Open Crown", so apply water to the top of the hat. To achieve the dent on the top like the picture, start pressing down on the top of the hat. It's that simple but, you don't need to embed it all the way in. Keep it very light because the dorfmans are actually "crown-wise" smaller than an HJ or AB. so if you press way to deep, you'll have a
weird looking hat. Trust me. Apply water where ever you need.

4th, Let the hat dry by it's self for a about 10 minutes. Again, this will help the Fur Felt memorize it's new shape.

5th, Figure out what sort of bash you want to give your hat. Raiders, Temple, Crusade, or Skull. Raiders is the easiest. Look up some pictures of Indy's Fedora to figure out the shape of it's bash. After figuring out what bash you want to try out, go put the hat on and look in the mirror.
Try to visually remember where your going to start the pinch and take it off.

Apply water to the areas your going to Pinch the crown at the front and start manipulating it to your favor. Look at my pictures as a reference if you'd like. You'll notice how simple it is once you start bashing.

Now in any case where your not satisfied with the look, you can always
apply water and re-do it again. That the beauty of Fur-Felt Fedoras.

6th, After your done and completely satisfied with the results, place your hat on your hatstand or at the edge of a chair an let it dry. For best results, leave to dry all day. Do NOT blow dry it.

Okay, I Really really really hope this helped you. If anything gets you stuck, I check C.O.W everyday, just message me again and I'll gladly help.

Alrighty, Fortune And Glory

-IndyFalco

The Penitent Man · Post by **The Penitent Man** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:20 am

Indy falco,
I used your method and it worked out great!!!....THANKS SO MUCH BRO!!...It was easy....now all I have to do is order the replacement ribbon and were off to the races. That is while I wait for my Magnoli HJ/AB like veruca salt moaned for the golden ticket!!

This was allot of fun, it's by no means an AB but it's far better than its look when it came out of the box

Will post pics soon