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Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:20 pm

imo, you need to mate the center dent to the side dents closer. that'll bring out the 'humps' at the top. the back of the centre dent doesn't look too deep but if you find the sides are tapering, you may want to take the centre dent up (more shallow).

it's fun bashing a hat, no?

Vegeta · Post by **Vegeta** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:16 pm

Yeah john...The center dent is too deep in the back...Bring it up in the back and push it down a lil more in the front. and the brim needs to swoop down more too.

John Falcon · Post by **John Falcon** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:03 pm

Okay guys, I'll try that.

Georgia Jones · Post by **Georgia Jones** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:48 pm

John, if you have not done this yet, give it a try, the hat can take it - take it off throw it across the room or on the couch then jump on it, sit on it, I actually went further and popped out the crown and just used it as a punching bag for about 5 minutes, then balled it up a couple of times (just a loose ball, did not want any unneccesary creases) and popped it back to an open crown, then rebashed it, this hat is built for the Aussie outdoors, it can take a beating...here are my two Feds as shown earlier in the post:

Vegeta · Post by **Vegeta** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:05 pm

You're crazy

Your fed looks awesome though.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:32 pm

Aeris_Canon wrote:That looks great from the front! Nice job.

Did you get any top and profile shots while you were out today? The front view looks really good there.

viola.......

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http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m212 ... CT2066.jpg

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Vegeta · Post by **Vegeta** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:42 am

Good job G!! Thats a delux right?? Looks great!! The color looks better than mine!! Got lucky with that batch I guess.

BazzanoJones · Post by **BazzanoJones** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:30 am

Here's my first real Indy hat, a standard Federation IV!
I'm very happy about color, details and materials. I've tryed to shape it into a general Crystal Skull bash (this is my first open-crown hat). Opinions and suggestions are welcome!

PS. Sorry for the quite blurry and dark photos but, at the moment, I only have the MacBook webcam...

rbinko2001 · Post by **rbinko2001** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:22 am

I couldn't wait any longer so I just made the leap and ordered my first fedora, a Fed IV that is. Can't wait to get it.

morethanatimelord · Post by **morethanatimelord** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:03 pm

iv taken the plunge and ordered a fed IV cant wait to recieve it!

im in the uk so any other uk buyers how long did it take roughly to get to you?

i havent recieved my reciept of the order by email yet though but i paid through paypal

John Falcon · Post by **John Falcon** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:33 pm

I made the center dent closer to the front and pulled the brim down some.

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Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:42 pm

the front pinch and camel humps look 100000 times better now....dontcha think???

if that were mine, i'd make the center dent more like a 'dent' instead of a crease or fold. that may straighten up the sides a bit.....if you are going for a raiders look. then push the side dents back more (around the middle of the hat where the bow's knot is....and same distance on the other side). if you start poking the channel in.....you may get the sides even more straight.

hope that helps....your hat is looking better and better each time you post. akubra's are the best hats to experiment on as they take multiple bashes and are quite resiliant. have fun with it.

Vegeta · Post by **Vegeta** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:43 pm

Definately looks better but it still looks a little squaty for some reason......hmmmmmmmmm.

morethanatimelord · Post by **morethanatimelord** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:10 pm

just got my email confirming my order for my fedIV so iv got 5 or 10 painful days till it arrives

cant wait

rbinko2001 · Post by **rbinko2001** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:23 pm

I ordered mine with EMS shipping. They said it should arrive in 3-4 days.

erictank · Post by **erictank** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:02 pm

rbinko2001 wrote:How long is it taking for you guys to get your FedIV's from ordering to delivery? I want to order one now, but we're moving in 4 weeks and I don't know if it will get here in time. Also, are you guys spraying your hat with the waterproofing spray that was talked about? I believe it was Scout's.

Thanks.

New poster/longtime member and lurker chiming in...

I ordered my FedIV Standard back the weekend before the premiere (Sunday the 18th, actually), and got it this past Monday (the 2nd), so that'd be right on the two-week mark. Not too shabby, from Australia to Virginia USA in 10 working days.

I have taken pics, both straight out of the box and post-bash (generic Raiders style, not intentionally replicating any particular scene), but they're on my camera at home, so I'll have to post them later. I am ENORMOUSLY impressed with the quality and value of this hat, and the bash was so easy I wondered if I was missing something. I've gotten nothing but compliments from it, and while it felt a little strange at first wearing it (I don't usually wear hats), I've worn it every day since I got it and am rapidly getting used to it. This is a NICE hat, and the low cost and reputed durability just make things that much better.

gabrielle · Post by **gabrielle** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:10 pm

Vegeta wrote:Good job G!! Thats a delux right?? Looks great!! The color looks better than mine!! Got lucky with that batch I guess.

Now how could any hat look better with you in it than the one you posted here?!!

Vegeta · Post by **Vegeta** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:31 am

gabrielle wrote:
Vegeta wrote:Good job G!! Thats a delux right?? Looks great!! The color looks better than mine!! Got lucky with that batch I guess.

Now how could any hat look better with you in it than the one you posted here?!!

AWWEEE!!! You're such a sweetheart

Thank you again Gabrielle for your gracious comments.

P.S. I know you got a fed IV right?? Let see those pics

gabrielle · Post by **gabrielle** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:43 am

I haven't ordered yet. Still trying to decide between the regular and deluxe.

I bought a couple of vintage hats on eBay and have been experimenting on the crease so I don't mess up my Fed when it does come...

Vegeta · Post by **Vegeta** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:00 pm

gabrielle wrote:I haven't ordered yet. Still trying to decide between the regular and deluxe.

I bought a couple of vintage hats on eBay and have been experimenting on the crease so I don't mess up my Fed when it does come...

If I could go back...I'd order a deluxe. Just because the texture is far smoother than the regular.

BroadSword · Post by **BroadSword** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:44 pm

Here I am after doing some distressing....well not really. Here I am after building a mulch bin for the wife. Loving the Fed IV. I decided to do all the garden work and build the mulch bin in my lid, Todd's shirt and my close enough pants this weekend.

scot2525 · Post by **scot2525** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:20 pm

A few new pics of my Fed IV stnd. Still working the bash but it seems to be going in the right direction. Thoughts and opinions are welcome.

Vegeta · Post by **Vegeta** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:16 pm

Scot, That looks great!!! Way better than before!!! You're almost there. The left side is dented in a bit differently than the right....make the right side look like the left side and that will fix the kindof uneaven look at the top.

The one other thing I would do is get the brim to swoop down a little more in the front too, but you dont have too if you dont want to. If you're having a hard time....use a little bit of steam.

blueoakleyz · Post by **blueoakleyz** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:59 pm

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tnitz · Post by **tnitz** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:46 pm

Received Federation IV Deluxe Friday. Ordered 61 whereas earlier Feds (Standard) ordered were 60's. While originally large on me, they all work down to size in short order.

The fawn color on the Deluxe is very nice and makes a nice hat. However, be aware that the crown height on these is considerably shorter than previous models. Personally, I think the crown on the size 60's now is too short, but that's my opinion.

Have not posted pics because the first set of comparison pics will give you the right idea.

John Falcon · Post by **John Falcon** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:30 pm

Here's my hat evolution so far.

I look grumpier as the photos go on beacuse the weather has been getting hotter.

Vegeta · Post by **Vegeta** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:06 pm

John...I dont know what is going on with your fed. It looks so short.

John Falcon · Post by **John Falcon** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:32 pm

Big head maybe?

Or maybe Tnitz is right about the crown issue. I think mine's a 62. That s*cks.

Vegeta · Post by **Vegeta** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:03 pm

tnitz wrote:
However, be aware that the crown height on these is considerably shorter than previous models. Personally, I think the crown on the size 60's now is too short, but that's my opinion.

Well yeah...That was the idea...The screen used hats had a 5 1/2 inch crown. Thats what these have. The old feds had a 5 3/4 crown I believe.

Bullitt · Post by **Bullitt** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:53 pm

Vegeta wrote:
tnitz wrote:
However, be aware that the crown height on these is considerably shorter than previous models. Personally, I think the crown on the size 60's now is too short, but that's my opinion.

Well yeah...That was the idea...The screen used hats had a 5 1/2 inch crown. Thats what these have. The old feds had a 5 3/4 crown I believe.

Worse, 6 inch actually

Vegeta · Post by **Vegeta** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:48 am

WeeMadHamish · Post by **WeeMadHamish** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:12 pm

John Falcon,

Do you have a round oval head? A round oval head will stretch a reg. oval crown sideways and certainly make it look wider and squatter, same way that a long oval head is really needed to get that perfect Raiders silhouette (as it stretches the crown lengthwise and keeps it nice and straight-sided.)

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:12 pm

WOOHOO!!! I ordered my Fed IV last Thursday and it made it here by today!!!!! Here are a few shots of it with its happy new owner. What do you guys think of the bash? It was my first time.

Kokopelli · Post by **Kokopelli** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:24 pm

Georgia Jones wrote:

Hey Georgia- could I prompt you for a picture of yur Tawny outside?

Georgia Jones · Post by **Georgia Jones** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:03 pm

I will try to get one in next day or two...CitRon, did you finnally get the right size tawny or did you go with a dark brown?, I haven't worn my Brown Fed III since I have gotten the tawny...but need to bring her out of the box so she's not lonely

Solojedi · Post by **Solojedi** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:26 pm

woohoo! Got mines today too! Actually, I ordered it last Thurs. and asked for EMS shipping. I thought it would come around Monday or Tuesday at the latest. To my surprise when I get home Sunday afternoon, I see a "Failed Delivery Attempt" notice on my door....I thought "WTH?" I didn't know they delivered on Sundays!!!!
So, after missing the postman on Monday and Tuesday, I finally went to the post office to pick itup..

This is my first fedora...too nice to be called a "HAT"...

It looks really awesome..hard to beleive the way it starts out and what it will look like after bashing it...

It fits me "just right". I do need to add a little bit of the foam strip to get a little tighter fit. I ordered a size 60.

Anyway, hope to work on the bash some time during the week. using some of the pix and suggestions on this board.
Solo

Kokopelli · Post by **Kokopelli** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:06 pm

Georgia Jones wrote:I will try to get one in next day or two...CitRon, did you finnally get the right size tawny or did you go with a dark brown?, I haven't worn my Brown Fed III since I have gotten the tawny...but need to bring her out of the box so she's not lonely

well...I got a replacement 56 in dk brown, but it was too small!! I just sold it, so I'm on the fence on either another Tawny in a 57 (I'll stick the foam in there until it shrinks up-hopefully it'll shrink up enough!) -or trying one of the Christy's in the beige color.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:13 pm

I know you've been fighting this dragon for a while citRon, so allow me to ask a question....have you just been sending them a size request, or have you ever supplied them with your actual head measurement and asked them to match a hat to that supplied measurement?

That's what I've done for years, and have never had a sizing issue with an Akubra, regardless of the model.

Regards! Michaelson

Vegeta · Post by **Vegeta** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:44 pm

Michaelson wrote:I know you've been fighting this dragon for a while citRon, so allow me to ask a question....have you just been sending them a size request, or have you ever supplied them with your actual head measurement and asked them to match a hat to that supplied measurement?

That's what I've done for years, and have never had a sizing issue with an Akubra, regardless of the model.

Regards! Michaelson

Thats exactly what I did too.

Kokopelli · Post by **Kokopelli** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:21 pm

Michaelson wrote:I know you've been fighting this dragon for a while citRon, so allow me to ask a question....have you just been sending them a size request, or have you ever supplied them with your actual head measurement and asked them to match a hat to that supplied measurement?

That's what I've done for years, and have never had a sizing issue with an Akubra, regardless of the model.

Regards! Michaelson

well I guess that's why you're a 'knower of things'!

-I had not thought of that. i am stupid. my wife's been sayin' it for years, now she has outside confirmation!!

I will email Ron at HD, and do just that- also, am I correct that he can make/manipulate one into a long oval?

Post by **Dr. Nebraska S.** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:05 pm

citRon wrote:
Michaelson wrote:I know you've been fighting this dragon for a while citRon, so allow me to ask a question....have you just been sending them a size request, or have you ever supplied them with your actual head measurement and asked them to match a hat to that supplied measurement?

That's what I've done for years, and have never had a sizing issue with an Akubra, regardless of the model.

Regards! Michaelson
well I guess that's why you're a 'knower of things'!

-I had not thought of that. i am stupid. my wife's been sayin' it for years, now she has outside confirmation!!

I will email Ron at HD, and do just that- also, am I correct that he can make/manipulate one into a long oval?

May I make a slight additional suggestion to complement Michaelson's? One thing Fedora mentions when you send him measurements for an AB is that you measure your head 3 times with measuring tape and then send him all 3 measurements. Perhaps you might want to do the same when sending your measurements to Ron so he has more information with which to work. :idea:

best wishes,
Nebraska Schulte

Kokopelli · Post by **Kokopelli** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:38 pm

thanks, I'll do that. Something else I'm going to do- measure my best fitting hat, which is (easy now fellas) my DP wool LC 'souvenier' hat with it's 'unknown material' sweatband! This thing fits perfect. The size says '7-7 1/8' on the tag. I'm going to try to measure the inside of the sweatband on it accurately.
btw- anybody know what that thing is made of? -the sweatband. It's not leather, it feels almost like cardboard of some type, but 'squishy'. I've worn it for hours at a time in the past before I knew any better, and it looks the same as it did 19 years ago!

Jones Boy · Post by **Jones Boy** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:51 am

From Ron's Hats Direct website referring to the FedIV.

Crown height is 5 5/8ths inches. Made from an original wooden hat block set which have not been used for over 35 years.

Some more information for folks.

Cheers
Jonesy

Jones Boy · Post by **Jones Boy** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:57 am

citRon,

Your best bet would be to use either of the following methods:

1) Use a piece of non stretch string and wrap around your noggin about 1-3cm above your ears and then measure it out flat.

2) Do the same with a dress makers tape (if you have one).

And for either method, use Nebraska's suggestion of 3 measurements.

I have used both and they worked for me.

Cheers
Jonesy

Digger · Post by **Digger** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:12 am

Just wondering, has anyone measured the ribbon?

John Falcon · Post by **John Falcon** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:08 am

WeeMadHamish wrote:Do you have a round oval head? A round oval head will stretch a reg. oval crown sideways and certainly make it look wider and squatter, same way that a long oval head is really needed to get that perfect Raiders silhouette (as it stretches the crown lengthwise and keeps it nice and straight-sided.)

I double checked and it's a "Regular Oval" shaped head.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:42 pm

You can 'convince' the Fed line to become long oval if you use a hat retainer (some call them 'stretchers) in your hat when you're not wearing it. It will eventually be trained into the long oval shape over time.

Regards! Michaelson

John Falcon · Post by **John Falcon** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:58 am

Mine's not long...just regular oval.

morethanatimelord · Post by **morethanatimelord** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:59 am

arrgghh! i hate waiting for stuff in the post

i ordered my fed last friday so its been about a week. so hopfully it will be here soon, cant wait to get started on the bash

floyd1977 · Post by **floyd1977** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:39 am

Guess I can post them here too.. Heres my new Fed and my new US Wings CE jacket. Any bash tips from the experts would be appreciated...
Also the GF thinks the jacket is too small, do you agree?

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