any durability updates on todd's?
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any durability updates on todd's?
I knoe there has been alot posted about Todd's standard, but I haven't noticed any updates as to its durability. Anyone care to update? I'm thinking of getting one, but also thinking of saving up for a Magnoli. (yes i know they are in two different levels but hey I have the idea to doindy gear on a budget and see what turns up)
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Todd's Standard Jacket (TSJ) is a good quality jacket, but it does have its limitations as far as durability is concerned.
When I received mine, the colder months were almost over, so I only got about a month or so of good wear out of it. During that time, however, I did wear it just about everyday, and I didn't notice any issues with it. It seems to age rather well, and although mine has not seen any hard use, still looks new. (I'm sure some steel wool, sandpaper, alcohol, or acetone could take care of that quickly).
It's a good jacket, but because the leather feels really thin, I am somewhat hesitant about getting it into anything serious. I wouldn't wear it hunting, because the strap from a rifle or the resting of a shotgun on it would probably wear into the leather quickly. I'm sure it wouldn't stand up to briars or harsh weather very well. It's just not made for that kind of thing. Lots of people call it a "costume jacket", yet I think it is a little stronger than that. It's a lightweight leather jacket, suited for a good windbreaker or a warmer on those cool early fall evenings, and that's about it. It's definitely ready to go for an Indy costume.
When I received mine, the colder months were almost over, so I only got about a month or so of good wear out of it. During that time, however, I did wear it just about everyday, and I didn't notice any issues with it. It seems to age rather well, and although mine has not seen any hard use, still looks new. (I'm sure some steel wool, sandpaper, alcohol, or acetone could take care of that quickly).
It's a good jacket, but because the leather feels really thin, I am somewhat hesitant about getting it into anything serious. I wouldn't wear it hunting, because the strap from a rifle or the resting of a shotgun on it would probably wear into the leather quickly. I'm sure it wouldn't stand up to briars or harsh weather very well. It's just not made for that kind of thing. Lots of people call it a "costume jacket", yet I think it is a little stronger than that. It's a lightweight leather jacket, suited for a good windbreaker or a warmer on those cool early fall evenings, and that's about it. It's definitely ready to go for an Indy costume.
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I have only had mine for two months, and have worn it every day since I got it. I promised to do a follow up post after I have had it for a year so everyone could see how it holds up. I'm wearing it right now, and it is absolutley soaked! We have had nothing but rain here in the Pacific Northwest for the last 2 weeks, and today was a gusher, so it has been drenched through several times.
When my wife opened the package she was worried I wouldn't like it because it was so light and soft. She didn't think it felt like it was real leather. I had her feel it the other day now that it has seen some weather and she was surprised that it now seems more dense, almost thicker and heavier than when it was brand new. I think that after it is worn and gets wet the fibers must constrict making the jacket feel more substantial. Just guessing here, but it definitely has more "body" than it did 2 months ago.
I'll try to get some picks up later tonight. So far it is proving to be a very good jacket, more than a costume piece be far!
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When my wife opened the package she was worried I wouldn't like it because it was so light and soft. She didn't think it felt like it was real leather. I had her feel it the other day now that it has seen some weather and she was surprised that it now seems more dense, almost thicker and heavier than when it was brand new. I think that after it is worn and gets wet the fibers must constrict making the jacket feel more substantial. Just guessing here, but it definitely has more "body" than it did 2 months ago.
I'll try to get some picks up later tonight. So far it is proving to be a very good jacket, more than a costume piece be far!
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Ok. Here is my jacket new, just hours out of the package.
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And here it is tonight, 2 month old and still very, very wet!
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I'd like to post another one in the next day or two so you can see it after it has dried. 2 months now, the saga continues. I'm loving this jacket more and more everyday. If you think it gets real easy treatment at work, notice that my work shirt has my name on it. That should tell you something!
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And here it is tonight, 2 month old and still very, very wet!
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I'd like to post another one in the next day or two so you can see it after it has dried. 2 months now, the saga continues. I'm loving this jacket more and more everyday. If you think it gets real easy treatment at work, notice that my work shirt has my name on it. That should tell you something!
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Here it is, dry after yesterdays storm. I know the pic is a little blurry, but hey, thats how I feel.
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Like I said before, I am only enjoying this jacket more and more. It definitlely has the look I've been after for years. I'll keep you updated as I know these jackets are fairly new and time will tell how well they last. So far, so good.
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Like I said before, I am only enjoying this jacket more and more. It definitlely has the look I've been after for years. I'll keep you updated as I know these jackets are fairly new and time will tell how well they last. So far, so good.
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How is the leather on that? does it feel tough or like it could tear easily?Weston wrote:Ok. Here is my jacket new, just hours out of the package.
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And here it is tonight, 2 month old and still very, very wet!
[img][img]http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6709/1006926rd3.jpg[/img][/img]
I'd like to post another one in the next day or two so you can see it after it has dried. 2 months now, the saga continues. I'm loving this jacket more and more everyday. If you think it gets real easy treatment at work, notice that my work shirt has my name on it. That should tell you something!
Weston
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Terrasolo, the leather is very light and thin. I'm sure it could tear if it got snagged on some sharp metal so I wouldn't try climbing razor wire in it.
It does feel tougher now that it has seen some weather. When I first got it, I remember taking it off before playing with my in-laws overly exuberant golden retreiver because I was concerned that he could tear up the leather. Now, I wouldn't worry about it so much.
Hey, it says Lucky and Durable right on the tag. Time will tell.
Weston
It does feel tougher now that it has seen some weather. When I first got it, I remember taking it off before playing with my in-laws overly exuberant golden retreiver because I was concerned that he could tear up the leather. Now, I wouldn't worry about it so much.
Hey, it says Lucky and Durable right on the tag. Time will tell.
Weston
thanks, just one more option here then.Weston wrote:Terrasolo, the leather is very light and thin. I'm sure it could tear if it got snagged on some sharp metal so I wouldn't try climbing razor wire in it.
It does feel tougher now that it has seen some weather. When I first got it, I remember taking it off before playing with my in-laws overly exuberant golden retreiver because I was concerned that he could tear up the leather. Now, I wouldn't worry about it so much.
Hey, it says Lucky and Durable right on the tag. Time will tell.
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Well, as I just posted in another thread, I put my Todd's standard through crawling, rolling, swinging, fighting...and it did great. (I was making movie for some kids). How it stands the test of time is still to be seen, but it came through my workout perfectly and looked really nice in the movie.
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Todd only offers custom cowhide and lambskin. Here's the link.whipcracker wrote:I was thinking, why doesn't Todd's just offer a custom goat, then we would have SA from Todd that everybody raves about and durability.
For the price, I can see why people choose other sellers. $499 is quite a hit. But I'd like to know if any of the gearheads here actually own one.
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In this thread, Chris_King stated that the custom jacket also uses a thicker lambskin than the standard.
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Weston that does make some sense. I remember back in AZ when we would get caught in thunderstorms riding in the desert, when you work cattle in the desert you get caught in storms sometimes, our saddles would get stiff as a board after getting wet and then would soften up after riding them another six or so. I think that is how good leather should react, depening on the tanning process of course. It's like the outer grain tightens after getting wet, We would always put a cotioner though like Lexolor or Fiebings neatsfoot minkoil mix.Weston wrote:Terrasolo, the leather is very light and thin. I'm sure it could tear if it got snagged on some sharp metal so I wouldn't try climbing razor wire in it.
It does feel tougher now that it has seen some weather. When I first got it, I remember taking it off before playing with my in-laws overly exuberant golden retreiver because I was concerned that he could tear up the leather. Now, I wouldn't worry about it so much.
Hey, it says Lucky and Durable right on the tag. Time will tell.
Weston
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Plastic Buckles?
Am I seeing things or are the side vent buckles on all of the Todds made of black plastic? Is that SA?
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Re: Plastic Buckles?
They're metal, painted black.lpa53 wrote:Am I seeing things or are the side vent buckles on all of the Todds made of black plastic? Is that SA?
Re: Plastic Buckles?
They should be metal. I know the ones on the customs are.lpa53 wrote:Am I seeing things or are the side vent buckles on all of the Todds made of black plastic? Is that SA?
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Re: Plastic Buckles?
Yes, Todd himself confirmed that they are metal in this thread:conceited_ape wrote:They're metal, painted black.lpa53 wrote:Am I seeing things or are the side vent buckles on all of the Todds made of black plastic? Is that SA?
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Weston,Weston wrote:
And here it is tonight, 2 month old and still very, very wet!
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Did you notice any substantial shrinkage when you wetted it? I've been wondering what mine would do if I got it really wet. Did you just zip your's up and wet the exterior and be sure to keep the interior dry? I have gotten mine in a brief rainstorm but nothing really serious as of yet as far as water is concerned.
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bigrex wrote:Weston,Weston wrote:
And here it is tonight, 2 month old and still very, very wet!
[img][img]http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6709/1006926rd3.jpg[/img][/img]
Did you notice any substantial shrinkage when you wetted it? I've been wondering what mine would do if I got it really wet. Did you just zip your's up and wet the exterior and be sure to keep the interior dry? I have gotten mine in a brief rainstorm but nothing really serious as of yet as far as water is concerned.
Ok, I think I pretty much answered my own question by reading the rest of the thread. You were caught in a rainstorm. Comparing photos it looks like there MIGHT be the tiniest amount of shrinkage in the sleeve length, but I could be wrong.
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Well, I think we all se now why I went with this option.
For $150.00, you REALLY cannot do better. (unles you find a pre-owned?)
The Todd's custom is WAAAAAY to expensive, and If the XXL I am waiting for does not fit properly, I will go elsewhere for a custom (Wested most likely) as for the money, I think Peter has a superior product (and I have handled a Todd's Custom in Cow hide- it is not much heavier than the standard lamb, so it still 'drapes' nicely).
So, there it is- even with regular use and abuse, the Todd's is hanging in there. Rain soaking doesn't affect it much (I was looking for shrinkage as well). Force-drying would probably shrink it more than air drying I suspect...
Originally designed as a low-cost costume piece, The Todd's seems to be able to handle 'real life' just fine. And, if you did somehow ruin it, for only $150.00 more, you have a brand new one. (Side note: I was looking as some fall leather jackets last night [not Indy style of course]. Similar quality as the Todd's standard, for three times the price)
PS I'm still getting my Wested/NH replica jacket! Don't think for a second I'm letting that oppurtunity pass me by!
For $150.00, you REALLY cannot do better. (unles you find a pre-owned?)
The Todd's custom is WAAAAAY to expensive, and If the XXL I am waiting for does not fit properly, I will go elsewhere for a custom (Wested most likely) as for the money, I think Peter has a superior product (and I have handled a Todd's Custom in Cow hide- it is not much heavier than the standard lamb, so it still 'drapes' nicely).
So, there it is- even with regular use and abuse, the Todd's is hanging in there. Rain soaking doesn't affect it much (I was looking for shrinkage as well). Force-drying would probably shrink it more than air drying I suspect...
Originally designed as a low-cost costume piece, The Todd's seems to be able to handle 'real life' just fine. And, if you did somehow ruin it, for only $150.00 more, you have a brand new one. (Side note: I was looking as some fall leather jackets last night [not Indy style of course]. Similar quality as the Todd's standard, for three times the price)
PS I'm still getting my Wested/NH replica jacket! Don't think for a second I'm letting that oppurtunity pass me by!