Raiders Whip

elcapitan · Post by **elcapitan** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:23 pm

Hello,
Thought I would finally post some pics of my whip.
Got it last summer: 8 foot 12 plait cowhide, by Winrich. Done Raiders- style, white hide fall and dark ring knot. No topcoat, although I am now thinking about adding a few coats of shellac.

Just got around to replacing the popper. I found some nylon, but it DOES NOT STAND UP the way I want to! At this rate I'll be replacing poppers every month!

I give her the old workout after work each day for a half hour or so. Walk around the lawn, cut down dandellions, make some noise. The usual. For someone with NO experience whatsoever with a real whip, I have to say, this is a very nice whip. I was able to perform the circus crack on my third or fourth attempt. (Ever)

You should have seen the look on my face when I casually flung out my arm as I've seen on YouTube, and instead of a <twap> or <blut> I got a POW!

much fun, indeed!

Now I'm up to: circus, overhead, side, back, underhand>right handed
circus, underhand, overhead>left hand
the other day i FINALLY learned forward throw>right hand
working on Coachmen's crack next/ some combos

THANKS, ADAM!

Canuck Digger · Post by **Canuck Digger** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:04 pm

See, now THIS is a cowhide whip worth paying for! Yes it is cowhide, but it's a well made cowhide whip. I hope those thinking of getting a bullwhip will see this and begin to understand that you just can't fake quality, and quality will last and will give you satisfaction for a long, long time. Congratulations!

WhipDude · Post by **WhipDude** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:16 pm

1 of the first cowhides I've seen that I've liked. This is a nice whip. How much did you pay for it?

elcapitan · Post by **elcapitan** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:57 pm

To be honest, i don't perfectly recall. Unfortunately, it appears that he is only making his IOAB whips at the present time.

Although I have heard excellent things about them, and certainly he even uses one in one of his YouTube videos to demonstrate it's abilities. Pretty much his videos and knowledge of the craft is what sold me, both as a performer and as an artisan. He also took a phonecall from me and he talked for 10 minutes or so, discussing various options. Very nice guy.

If memory affords, it was right around $200.
More than the IOAB because of 12plait vs. 4plait, also I specified the kip leather that bernardo occaisionally used.

Would definitely buy another.

Cracker · Post by **Cracker** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:34 pm

That's a fine looking whip. I really like the way the kip is weathering with use.

winrichwhips · Post by **winrichwhips** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:08 pm

If anyone on COW is looking to get one of my 12-plait cowhide whips, be sure to let me know you're from COW and I'll make you one, as long as you're not in a hurry to get it.

I might even make kangaroo whips for COW members if they ask real nice

(I'm not being uppity, I'm just busy, that's all)

I was looking through my leather and I see I have one of Bernardo's cowhides left. Personally, I think the peruvian cowhide makes good-looking whips, but the leather is kind of light weight, so it makes for a whip lighter in weight than the IOABs I'm making.

-Adam

Bernardodc · Post by **Bernardodc** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:24 am

The cowhide I used to get from a peruvian tannery wasn't perfect but it was by far the best vegetable-tanned cowhide leather I have ever worked with. It was quite strong and looked great, as you can see in the pics above in the whip that Adam made out of it.

I've been looking for an alternative leather here in the States, but I have yet to find one as strong and suitable for whips. The ones that I have tried were even lighter in weight that the peruvian cowhides. This doesn't have to do with the cows, but with the tanning proccess.

Latigo leather, either alum-tanned or chrome-tanned (like the one Adam uses for his IOAB) is typically heavily oiled at the tannery, and this obviously makes it heavier. By contrast, vegatable-tanned cowhide is left dry, because it is a tooling leather, and it will absorb the dyes better.

When making a cowhide whip out of latigo, you have to watch out not to make it too heavy. The opposite is true with un-oiled vegetable tanned leather. If you are not careful, it might end up being too light to crack well.

Btw, I'm in the line for a couple of Adam's cowhide whips to complete my "Winrich cowhide bullwhips" collection

)

Bernardo

IndyFan89 · Post by **IndyFan89** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:20 pm

Whats the price on one of these Adam? (10 foot)

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:06 pm

I am new to the world of real whips. What does IOAB mean? Sorry for the newbie question. Love that whip.

Kiscien · Post by **Kiscien** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:08 pm

it means Indy-On-A-Budget

Herr Doktor · Post by **Herr Doktor** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:09 pm

Alex wrote:I am new to the world of real whips. What does IOAB mean? Sorry for the newbie question. Love that whip.

Just to ensure there is no confusion...

The whip Elcapitan posted is NOT an Indy on a Budget from Adam.

winrichwhips · Post by **winrichwhips** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:38 am

IndyFan89,

I only have one hide left that could make a whip like this, and it's already spoken for. Thus, there is no price on this whip as I couldn't make one for you due to leather availability.

Regards,

Adam

IndyFan89 · Post by **IndyFan89** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:10 pm

Not even for your biggest fan that came and saw you at the Fair!? LOL

Kidding

That is a awsome whip though! I'm glad i got my CS well i could.

IndyFalco · Post by **IndyFalco** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:01 am

elcapitan wrote: although I am now thinking about adding a few coats of shellac.

What is shellac and where do I purchase it?

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:59 am

It's the stuff they put on the whip when they're done with it that gives it that shiny look. I believe it also protects the whip, but it wears off after it gets older.

Is it good to put on older whips?

Shane