hat logo updated june 11th

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:57 pm

With such great comments and support from everyone I decided to push ahead. I wanted to share a image for a hat logo and to get everyones input. I hoping to have everything together by the beginning of July to start things off. I will have only 3 sizes to offer but will start to add a size or two as I go. All the feedback would be helpful. thanks Again.

gabrielle · Post by **gabrielle** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:09 pm

I wouldn't change a thing, it looks so perfect like it is!!!

Maybe give us a little info. about your hats, and I apologize in advance if I missed it elsewhere.

What are the hats made from?
Sweat bands?
Wait time?
Price?
Available sizes?

WalkingEye · Post by **WalkingEye** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:09 pm

i think i'd capitalize the h in hat and possibly the c in co as well. also you may want to shift the name down slightly further from the logo.

so what sizes are you offering?

Post by **Holt** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:17 pm

my honest opinion: that is one great looking vintage logo.

if I had to desigh it I would loose the bulldog tough part.....sorry thats just my opinion...

but everything else is great

bests
Holt

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:18 pm

PENMAN
Est. 2008

Penman Hat Company
Portland, Oregon U.S.A.
Bulldog Tough

That would be my suggestion for the text layout.

Jack

Johnny Fedora · Post by **Johnny Fedora** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:28 pm

So...you just couldn't wait and had to show off my hard (and might I add beautiful) handy-work to the masses. Couldn't wait a day or two for an earth (or at least COW) shakeing announcment or at least a message board subject heading that sounds a little more thrilling like, oh, I don't know...ANNOUNCING THE OPENING OF THE PENMAN HAT CO.! Not "hat logo". Really?...

Just kidding man!

It's really too cool, and I know that you're just jazzed to spring this on everybody. Congrats! Just let me handle the press from now on though. Just kidding, but seriously I was writting something up.

Johnny

p.s. Gabrielle, thanks.

You should see the ones that didn't make the grade.

p.p.s. Indiana Holt, that's his actual dog.

p.p.p.s. WalkingEye, there's an aestectic reason those letters aren't in caps.

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:55 pm

Thanks Johnny Fedora for all your hard work. I was going to make a Announcement on July first. I really wanted to show off your work.

The hats will be all very high quality 100% beaver felt.
Sweat, and ribbon is not 100% worked out just yet but should be by the first of july. That why I have not placed prices just as of yet. I'll post sizes real soon when I get my next block.

Indiana Kev · Post by **Indiana Kev** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:04 pm

I love the logo. I wish you all the best in this hat venture.

Chewie Louie · Post by **Chewie Louie** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:48 pm

I love dogs, but I'd lose the Bulldog image as well. Kinda takes away from the traditional old style look.

carolinamike · Post by **carolinamike** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:49 pm

Nice looking logo.

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:53 pm

I love it. I love everything about the logo. It just screams "old time hat." I will definately be picking one of these up. Your work is simply sublime. As soon as you have a projected price, let us know and I will pre-order, given you have a 7 1/2 size block. If not, get a move on it!

No seriously, I will buy one as soon as they become available.

Congradulations Bending Oak!

Dave

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:59 pm

It's a great looking logo, but it just doesn't look much like a hat logo to me. It looks more like a logo for an Antique shop. I think the text layout is the main problem, for me at least. Putting PENMAN in the center in bold caps is reminiscent of the way Stetson and other old hat companies do their logos (they also use crests frequently). Just my 2 cents, but the logo looks great as it is.

Jack

Long John Tinfoil · Post by **Long John Tinfoil** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:05 pm

Like it a lot, and if you hadn't asked for critiques I probably wouldn't have noticed that the front wheel of the Penny-farthing is about 1/4 the diameter of the back wheel up in the (hypothetical) air. Probably done to balance the image in the oval frame, but you did ask.

LJ

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:09 pm

After looking over the logo again, I would prefer the "Bulldog Tough" to be smaller, as well as the bulldog itself. I love the bulldog though, I think it should stay, just smaller.

Dave

Johnny Fedora · Post by **Johnny Fedora** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:33 pm

Long John Tinfoil wrote:Like it a lot, and if you hadn't asked for critiques I probably wouldn't have noticed that the front wheel of the Penny-farthing is about 1/4 the diameter of the back wheel up in the (hypothetical) air. Probably done to balance the image in the oval frame, but you did ask.

LJ

It's just jumping off the word "the". I like to take bikes off sweet jumps.

Johnny

Long John Tinfoil · Post by **Long John Tinfoil** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:37 pm

Usually the seat and bars on mine tilt with the trajectory.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:57 pm

i love it!!! and if you didn't know....i love the bulldog too! maybe when i place an order, you can put the bulldog on the ribbon

the penman hat company......the birth of something new....what a great time to be a gearhead!

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:28 am

How about colors? I'm not really set on the color's yet.

Long John Tinfoil · Post by **Long John Tinfoil** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:36 am

Sepia-toned?

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:05 am

Gold graphics and lettering on a dark red, burgundy or marroon background. Gold on black should look really nice, too. Or white lettering and graphics on midnight blue.

Jack

Indycrazy5187 · Post by **Indycrazy5187** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:19 am

That logo is so cool...it's one of those logos that when you see it....you remember it and that's good.

Fink · Post by **Fink** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:21 am

Portland? I thought you were a New Yorker...

:

Great logo, but the few changes I could suggest have already mentioned.
All I can ask is what it has already have been asked, plus: Are you planning to offer alternative colors? International customers support? PayPal payment allowed? Website catalog expected soon? Ultra rough alternative models can be expected?

gabrielle · Post by **gabrielle** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:34 am

Black on burgundy would be great!!!

Or even a classy off white, like white with just a touch of brown mixed in, the way a Siamese cat is a creamy color. And of course black lettering.

Indiana Blooze · Post by **Indiana Blooze** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:25 am

Firetruck Red with white lettering, outlined in black

And if you can believe it, I love the bulldog!!

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:33 am

I'm a New Yorker now living in Portland.

Blooze, Why an I not shocked by your answer. Thats the way a fire engine or truck should be but not in my liners. You do know my firefighting days are now over.

myamoebafriend · Post by **myamoebafriend** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:46 am

What sizes are you going to offering to start out with?

BazzanoJones · Post by **BazzanoJones** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:15 am

Beautiful vintage logo! Here's yours logo with my personal little changing in the layout composition...hope this help you to catch up the final logo!

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:34 am

A BONE SHAKER!! I love those old bikes...even though they were responsible for more broken legs than any other model ever made, they're CLASSICS!!

I TOTALLY approve, Oak!!

HIGH regards! Michaelson

Terrasolo · Post by **Terrasolo** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:10 am

BazzanoJones wrote:Beautiful vintage logo! Here's yours logo with my personal little changing in the layout composition...hope this help you to catch up the final logo!

I wasn't too keen on the bull dog part, so having it accented would not have been an option I would have gone with, but I have to say that it really does look good.

I know it can be tough when someone else tweaks your design, but this one gets my vote.

however, after another look I might still lose the bull Dog part and just use the accent for the established info.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:18 am

Cool logo John, I love the "The Prisoner" homage.

In the same way that the OR doesn't need the period after it you can probably loose the ones in USA too or just have one after the A.

WalkingEye · Post by **WalkingEye** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:18 am

BazzanoJones wrote:Beautiful vintage logo! Here's yours logo with my personal little changing in the layout composition...hope this help you to catch up the final logo!

I really like this version!

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:46 am

Thanks everyone for your input so far. I'm going to consider what everyone has come up with. I think for color I'm going with a white background but need to see what is the best color to go with for the print ( image/logo). I'm think white liner because it would work for both grey and brown hats.

Johnny Fedora · Post by **Johnny Fedora** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:49 am

Oak, good call on the white liner. I hadn't thought of two colors of hats when I made my suggestion for light gold.

BazzanoJones, I actually quite like the flourish around the dog. It kind of reminds me of Main Street, U.S.A., Disneyland. I should have thought of that...As for the caps on hat and co. That would kind of detract from a particular look/homage that Oak and I were playing with here. Let me put it another way...my screename not only serves as a cool name but also message to other discerning fans that I have a great love for all things Disney. In much the same way do both the bike and the choice of lettering serve to revel something about Oak. While not exact, those images together will speak to those who get it (and they are too cool for school!

), and to those who don't, well...its still a cool logo. Wow. I explained it without having to explain it. Is that vague enough for you Oak?

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:53 am

The second logo is really awesome!

Long John Tinfoil · Post by **Long John Tinfoil** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:02 pm

So Oak's a fan of Indy AND e e cummings?

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:14 pm

Johnny Fedora wrote:Oak, good call on the white liner. I hadn't thought of two colors of hats when I made my suggestion for light gold.

BazzanoJones, I actually quite like the flourish around the dog. It kind of reminds me of Main Street, U.S.A., Disneyland. I should have thought of that...As for the caps on hat and co. That would kind of detract from a particular look/homage that Oak and I were playing with here. Let me put it another way...my screename not only serves as a cool name but also message to other discerning fans that I have a great love for all things Disney. In much the same way do both the bike and the choice of lettering serve to revel something about Oak. While not exact, those images together will speak to those who get it (and they are too cool for school! ), and to those who don't, well...its still a cool logo. Wow. I explained it without having to explain it. Is that vague enough for you Oak?

I guess so.

What should my sweatband read

1- the Penman hat company
handmade
Fine Fur Felt

2- the penman hat co.
handmade
100% beaver felt

3- the Penman hat company
handmade

........or should it be handcrafted?

Long John Tinfoil · Post by **Long John Tinfoil** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:19 pm

:arrow: This side toward enemy

Sorry, just having some fun. Looking at surplus gear that includes wear instructions can do that to ya.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:25 pm

2- the penman hat co.
handmade
100% beaver felt

My vote.

Regards! Michaelson

Long John Tinfoil · Post by **Long John Tinfoil** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:30 pm

I'm with him, but I'd go with "handcrafted".

gabrielle · Post by **gabrielle** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:43 pm

Terrasolo wrote:
BazzanoJones wrote:Beautiful vintage logo! Here's yours logo with my personal little changing in the layout composition...hope this help you to catch up the final logo!

I wasn't too keen on the bull dog part, so having it accented would not have been an option I would have gone with, but I have to say that it really does look good.

I know it can be tough when someone else tweaks your design, but this one gets my vote.

however, after another look I might still lose the bull Dog part and just use the accent for the established info.

This one is perfect!!!

And I'd go with:

Penman Hat Co.
Handcrafted
100% Beaver

Fink · Post by **Fink** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:47 pm

I believe "handcrafted" is better because is more proper.

Indiana Blooze · Post by **Indiana Blooze** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:56 pm

Handcrafted by J. Penman
Pure Beaver Felt

Yeah, I heard about your back. After 21 years I think I have filled out injury reports on all of my major joints.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:45 pm

The Penman Hat Co.
Handcrafted for ______________ (i don't know if you want to do this but i've always enjoyed bespoke tagging...if i'm using the term correctly)

Fine Beaver Felt

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:51 pm

I'd stick with either 'pure' or '100%' beaver felt.

The term 'fine beaver felt' is also used on hats that are blends.....unless you plan on making them with blends.

Regards! Michaelson

Johnny Fedora · Post by **Johnny Fedora** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:53 pm

Good call Michaelson!

Johnny

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:32 pm

I like the second idea but would change only one detail:

The Penman Hat Co.
Handmade
Pure Beaver Felt

I think that "pure" sounds better than "100%." I also like Indiana G's idea of personaliztion. I love the throw-back to the era of bespoke fedoras. It is only fitting that a handmade fedora would be SO personalized that your name would be printed on the sweat. Maybe not the whole name; maybe just initials, but some detail like that would be great.

Dave

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:36 pm

DR Ulloa wrote:I like the second idea but would change only one detail:

The Penman Hat Co.
Handmade
Pure Beaver Felt

I think that "pure" sounds better than "100%." I also like Indiana G's idea of personaliztion. I love the throw-back to the era of bespoke fedoras. It is only fitting that a handmade fedora would be SO personalized that your name would be printed on the sweat. Maybe not the whole name; maybe just initials, but some detail like that would be great.

Dave

then its settled then.....everyone will have their hats stating:

HANDMADE FOR INDIANA G

....very touching guys and thanks for the recognition.

now, oak, lets talk royalties before i fire out a C & D order....

Indiana Kev · Post by **Indiana Kev** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:43 pm

Michaelson wrote:
2- the penman hat co.
handmade
100% beaver felt
My vote.

Regards! Michaelson

Mine too.

Long John Tinfoil · Post by **Long John Tinfoil** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:34 pm

Just out of curiosity, what would it cost to have our various custom hatters put the customer's initials on the band?

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:35 pm

Long John Tinfoil wrote:Just out of curiosity, what would it cost to have our various custom hatters put the customer's initials on the band?

The hatters I've dealt with didn't charge anything at all.

Jack