Was the Smithsonian jacket actually in the movie or...

CM · Post by CM » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:21 pm

Please only answer this if you know...

Was the jacket displayed actually used in LC? Is it part of a lot that didn't get used but WAS made for the film? Or is there another story to it? I'd also like to know if it wasn't used is it is an exact copy of one used in LC.

Cheers

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:20 am

That's what I thought myself, _, but since I wasn't sure that my memory was right, I didn't post.

Thanks for re-setting that brain cell for me.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Holt** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:22 am

you mean the LC jacket that we all know had backroom distressing...

this one?

Holt

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:28 am

They matched the distressing to the film jackets pretty closely!

C3

Minnesota Jones · Post by **Minnesota Jones** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:49 am

_ wrote:The jacket in the display was not ever used during production. In fact, when the donation was made, they pulled the jacket from the archives and it had not even been distressed. Somebody from the property room did it with sandpaper and they shipped it off to Washington...

That's what I get for assuming.... I was not aware of that, I stand corrected!

Thank's for the info my friend!

Jacket and Fedora at the Smithsonian

St. Dumas · Post by **St. Dumas** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:31 am

Indiana Holt wrote:you mean the LC jacket that we all know...backroom distressing...ah man

this one?

No, that's not the Smithsonian one.

SD

Post by **Holt** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:16 pm

ok thanks.

suddenly I noticed that the pocket size are different on both the LC jackets..

or is it just me?

Holt

CM · Post by CM » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:34 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:ok thanks.

suddenly I noticed that the pocket size are different on both the LC jackets..

or is it just me?

Holt

No, you're right. But even if the jacket you have shown was in the movie -I have yet to see any screen captures with those narrow pocket flaps. They all look like the ones in the Smithsonian.

CM · Post by CM » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:35 pm

_ wrote:The jacket in the display was not ever used during production. In fact, when the donation was made, they pulled the jacket from the archives and it had not even been distressed. Somebody from the property room did it with sandpaper and they shipped it off to Washington...

Thanks for that... when you say archives... I'm assuming that you mean LC archives? Or not...

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:38 pm

He means the Lucasfilm,Skywalker ranch warehouse, also referred to as the 'archives'.

Regards! Michaelson

Chewing Wax · Post by **Chewing Wax** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:48 pm

_ wrote:The jacket in the display was not ever used during production. In fact, when the donation was made, they pulled the jacket from the archives and it had not even been distressed. Somebody from the property room did it with sandpaper and they shipped it off to Washington...

That's like if Archy Bunker's chair wasn't the one Carroll O'Connor sat in on the set. I don't see what the point of having that jacket on display is. Do they say it isn't the one worn in the movie?

Post by **Holt** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:01 pm

those bigger pockets and those narrow flaps remind me very much of the pockets Peter makes today on his standard wested

Holt

CM · Post by CM » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:02 am

Chewing Wax wrote:
_ wrote:The jacket in the display was not ever used during production. In fact, when the donation was made, they pulled the jacket from the archives and it had not even been distressed. Somebody from the property room did it with sandpaper and they shipped it off to Washington...
That's like if Archy Bunker's chair wasn't the one Carroll O'Connor sat in on the set. I don't see what the point of having that jacket on display is. Do they say it isn't the one worn in the movie?

Well yeah... they coudl have hung my jacket in there... However, it may have been one made for LC that was not used. Does anyone know?

Minnesota Jones · Post by **Minnesota Jones** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:17 am

Chewing Wax wrote:
_ wrote:The jacket in the display was not ever used during production. In fact, when the donation was made, they pulled the jacket from the archives and it had not even been distressed. Somebody from the property room did it with sandpaper and they shipped it off to Washington...
That's like if Archy Bunker's chair wasn't the one Carroll O'Connor sat in on the set. I don't see what the point of having that jacket on display is. Do they say it isn't the one worn in the movie?

Don't forget, they ALSO state that the Jacket and Hat both (or just the Jacket?) were ALSO in Raiders, besides LC... we've told them many times it was an LC Jacket (distressing, storm flap snaps, etc), but they've refused to change the sign...

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:27 am

From an article I read yesterday, a LOT of their displays are labeled wrong.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:44 am

Michaelson wrote:From an article I read yesterday, a LOT of their displays are labeled wrong.

Regards! Michaelson

Well, it is federally funded

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:46 am

Regards! Michaelson

myamoebafriend · Post by **myamoebafriend** » Fri May 30, 2008 1:24 am

What about that hat? Is that LC as well, because that's what it looks the most like to me.

Bruce Wayne · Post by **Bruce Wayne** » Fri May 30, 2008 8:45 am

the hat is a DP

Trebor · Post by **Trebor** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:38 pm

Michaelson wrote:From an article I read yesterday, a LOT of their displays are labeled wrong.

Regards! Michaelson

You got a link to that article? Sounds interesting.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:47 pm

I did back in April when I wrote that response. It's no longer a live link.

Regards! Michaelson

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:28 pm

So if the jacket is an "archive" item I presume the hat is too. Made for the film but never used. Interesting.

Cheers!

Dan

TheMechanic · Post by **TheMechanic** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:27 pm

They couldn't have found a screen used jacket to give to the Smithsonian?? Where did they all go? There must be 100 jackets from all the movies out there somewhere.

Also, why bother archiving the jackets? (if that's what they're doing with them.) It's not like they hang onto them to copy for the next movie. If that was the case all of his jackets would have looked like the Raiders jacket.

Who knows.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:29 pm

Why? Who knows, but I've seen footage shot in the Skywalker ranch warehouse, and Lucas has RACKS of used Indy jackets and boxes FULL of used HJ's from the films in storage.

Regards! Michaelson

St. Dumas · Post by **St. Dumas** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:58 pm

Michaelson wrote:... I've seen footage shot in the Skywalker ranch warehouse, and Lucas has RACKS of used Indy jackets and boxes FULL of used HJ's from the films in storage.

Hmm. This sounds familiar. He better not be covertly manufacturing a clone army or something.

SD

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:58 pm

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:19 pm

this is from the archives

here is an original LC jacket...just cant see wich one this is...I dont think this is the smithsonian jacket.I think its the hero jacket

bests
Holt

CM · Post by CM » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:32 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:this is from the archives

here is an original LC jacket...just cant see wich one this is...I dont think this is the smithsonian jacket.I think its the hero jacket

bests
Holt

Where's that from, holt? Who is it and when and why???

Post by **Holt** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:58 pm

this is Dave Crowther at Lucasfilm Archives in Marin county during spring break of 1991.

he is a friend of Don Bies who is an archivist at skywalker ranch.

He arranged for a small group of people to have a private, unguided and open tour of the archives.

bests
Holt

CM · Post by CM » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:24 pm

Wow. That's amazing. Thanks. Any more photos like it?

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:29 pm

The Indy Jacket and Acid-Washed Jeans... Oh the Horror... the horror....

St. Dumas · Post by **St. Dumas** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:09 pm

What's that guy from "Office Space" doing in the Lucasfilm archives?

SD

ichnob · Post by **ichnob** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:39 pm

Tennessee Smith wrote:The Indy Jacket and Acid-Washed Jeans... Oh the Horror... the horror....

The year was 1991. Times were simpler back then, and fashion was still adjusting from the 80s era...

Post by **Holt** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:07 pm

allways when I looked at this picture I never got the impression that this jacket is made from lambskin..it looks so much thicker...it looks like a cow hide..

alltough Peter tells me that all the LC jackets were made from Lamb....

bests
Holt

CM · Post by CM » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:46 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:allways when I looked at this picture I never got the impression that this jacket is made from lambskin..it looks so much thicker...it looks like a cow hide..

alltough Peter tells me that all the LC jackets were made from Lamb....

bests
Holt

In the film in most shots it looks cow as well. But it's more like a G&B thick lamb. When the film came out my friends and I all thought that the jacket was made of bike leather...

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:52 pm

CM wrote:In the film in most shots it looks cow as well. But it's more like a G&B thick lamb. When the film came out my friends and I all thought that the jacket was made of bike leather...

Well that's just silly... they passed a law in 1987 prohibiting the killing and skinning of bikes!

I think it looks like cow too (and actually I've always just assumed that it was!!)... but if Peter says lamb, then it must have been lamb!

Shane

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:40 am

_ wrote:The jacket in the display was not ever used during production. In fact, when the donation was made, they pulled the jacket from the archives and it had not even been distressed. Somebody from the property room did it with sandpaper and they shipped it off to Washington...

Sorry, I don't agree. I think that the jacket was used, and the proof is in this production photo. As you can see, it's the same jacket.

Post by **Holt** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:41 pm

yes you are absolutly right.
that jacket is worn by frod...allthough it may not have been appeared on screen but it IS worn by Ford.I can see the details

you have a great eye for detail

bests
Holt

St. Dumas · Post by **St. Dumas** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:12 pm

Cool. Check out the collar placement on the storm flap. That's different from some of the other photos from the film. Nice to see that confirmation.

SD

Tollan · Post by **Tollan** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:39 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:allways when I looked at this picture I never got the impression that this jacket is made from lambskin..it looks so much thicker...it looks like a cow hide..

alltough Peter tells me that all the LC jackets were made from Lamb....

bests
Holt

This is very true... BUT... if you look at the scene on the beach check out how the leather flaps in the wind around Fords chest after Connery does his bird trick. You can really see there how thin the leather is. Ahhhh.... the illusion of film

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:17 pm

Indiana Holt wrote: that jacket is worn by frod...allthough it may not have been appeared on screen but it IS worn by Ford.

Yes, and I would love to have this baby in my wardrobe...

Treadwell · Post by **Treadwell** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:04 pm

Sure that pic isn't of Vic Armstrong?

Post by **Holt** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:28 pm

yeah sure.that's Ford

Holt

Odo · Post by **Odo** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:46 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:this is from the archives

here is an original LC jacket...just cant see wich one this is...I dont think this is the smithsonian jacket.I think its the hero jacket

bests
Holt

And what about the linning in this jacket? Is it satin linning, or am I wrong?

Post by **Holt** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:51 pm

yes that is the black silky linnen that you see on screen

Holt

CM · Post by CM » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:55 pm

Indiana Strones wrote:
_ wrote:The jacket in the display was not ever used during production. In fact, when the donation was made, they pulled the jacket from the archives and it had not even been distressed. Somebody from the property room did it with sandpaper and they shipped it off to Washington...
Sorry, I don't agree. I think that the jacket was used, and the proof is in this production photo. As you can see, it's the same jacket.

That's amazing... well done. Now is that teh Smithsonian jacket or the one from the Chicago display? Or are they the same jacket?

Cheers

Post by **Holt** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:55 pm

here is the rest of the picture.

the smithsonian jacket worn by Ford and the hero jacket worn by the boss himself

Holt[/img]

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:33 am

Yes, from this photo you can see another detail: the vertical distressing 'stripe' along the left sleeve.

CM · Post by CM » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:01 am

I don't think this display jacket is the Smithsonian jacket we're looking at. The one on display here (not being worn) is probably from the Chicago display. If you source other Smithsonain photos, you'll see that those markings are not present.

Cheers

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:19 am

CM wrote:I don't think this display jacket is the Smithsonian jacket we're looking at. The one on display here (not being worn) is probably from the Chicago display. If you source other Smithsonain photos, you'll see that those markings are not present.

Cheers

No, I don't agree. Look at this official Smithsonian photo. It's the same jacket.

Was the Smithsonian jacket actually in the movie or...

Was the Smithsonian jacket actually in the movie or...

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