AB Deluxe worn by Harrison?

TonyRush · Post by **TonyRush** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:46 pm

Just saw this on Ebay:

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Looks like the real deal. Might be a good opportunity for someone who wants to get a unique hat without the usual waiting period.

Tony

Doctor_Jones · Post by **Doctor_Jones** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:52 pm

yeah, i saw that too today. but i don't really believe the story.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:56 pm

It is real, the seller is a member here.

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Fri May 30, 2008 3:58 pm

The following is from the Indygear main site. Always beneficial to do a little research first. This is the hat mentioned in the text below.

On April 30th, 2007, Peter Botwright called Marc to inform him that he had mentioned Adventurebilt to Bernie Pollack, Costume Designer for Harrison Ford who had just been brought on for the new Indy IV project (as it was known at the time). Bernie spoke to Marc the next day and arranged to have a sample sent for consideration. Not having one handy, Marc asked a customer of a recently finished hat to forward it on to Bernie for consideration. At this point, Steve also came in as a point of contact to Bernie who found it easier to deal with someone stateside, with less of a time difference. This is also the point when near disaster struck for AB, almost tossing them out of the running.

The hat sent was a replica of a Raiders style pinch, which unfortunately was viewed as a 'caricature of the Raiders hat' by men who preferred the more relaxed pinches of Temple of Doom and Last Crusade. A phone conversation between Steve and Bernie was able to keep Adventurebilt in the mix of vendors. Steve promised Bernie he could blend a Last Crusade pinch with a Raiders block to come up with THE look that they were looking for. A rushed hat done during long, sleepless hours was quickly sent off to Mr. Pollack, and Adventurebilt was back in Bernie's good graces.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri May 30, 2008 4:10 pm

is that g-man's hat?....if it is....no word of a lie in that description.

g-man....save yourself all that auction non-sense and just give it to me

....it's my size too!!!!

TonyRush · Post by **TonyRush** » Fri May 30, 2008 5:05 pm

Dang, you make me want to buy it now! And I just got one!

LOL

Tony

Luke Warmwater · Post by **Luke Warmwater** » Fri May 30, 2008 6:03 pm

OMG why would someone sell this??

Indiana Jess · Post by **Indiana Jess** » Fri May 30, 2008 6:08 pm

Gas money maybe.

Doctor_Jones · Post by **Doctor_Jones** » Fri May 30, 2008 7:42 pm

Kt Templar wrote:It is real, the seller is a member here.

ah okay, didn't know that. shame he sells it. oh well...

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Fri May 30, 2008 9:26 pm

It's real and it's spectacular.

A big Thank You to those that chimed in before me.

Cheers,
G-MANN

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri May 30, 2008 11:54 pm

so.....uh...g-mann....er....can i have it

g-mann, don't sell her off my friend. keep it. i've got a piece of gear thats similar, and there ain't a hope in h-e-double hockey sticks that i'm gonna sell it off....heck, the ark of the covenant has seen more daylight than my collector piece

bottom line.....don't sell it. but if you do, make sure its not no joe-shmoe-billionaire-boy that's giving it to their 11 year old as a birthday gift cuz they liked the new movie. just my 2 cents.....take it for what its worth.

cheers,

G

jeff · Post by **jeff** » Sat May 31, 2008 9:51 am

Luke Warmwater wrote:OMG why would someone sell this??

Ya know, sometimes life gets in the way and you need the money. Not for "mad" money, but rather to pay the mortgage, medical expenses, etc.

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:30 am

I am hoping that someone in the hobby gets the hat. So far the people bidding on the hat are avid Indy fans. I am not selling it because I need the money. The hat has been sitting in the box since I got it back from Bernie, except when I removed it for Agent5 to check out.

If I keep the hat it may end up sitting in my closet for the next 20 years.

I am just happy that I was able to get an Adventurebilt fedora to Bernie within 24 hours and help Marc and Steve get the contract.

Cheers,
G-MANN

TonyRush · Post by **TonyRush** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:34 am

G-Mann, if you don't me asking, though.....you spent a fair amount of money and presumably a fair amount of waiting time to get your AB Deluxe.

Were you not planning on wearing it when you bought it?

Tony

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:38 am

I don't mind at all. Yes I did plan on wearing it eventually however when this hat arrived I already owned 3 other AB Deluxes and 2 AB's made by Steve. As well as about 5 other Indy Fedoras.

Cheers,
G-MANN

TonyRush · Post by **TonyRush** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:49 am

OMG.

Okay. 'Nuff said.

Tony

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:18 am

Nice collection. I don't blame you a bit. Good luck!

Edit: Ah, nice score. Now I certainly don't blame you. Wow.

Dr._J · Post by **Dr._J** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:18 am

Yeah, I think G-Mann's all set with fedoras.

myamoebafriend · Post by **myamoebafriend** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:19 am

G-MANN, if you don't mind, I'm going to track you down, break into your house, and steal one of those. I don't care which, just any one of them will do.

Best Wishes
Max

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:34 am

Well, just sold the hat to a collector in Hollwood for $5,000.00

Cheers,
G-MANN

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:47 am

G-MANN, if you don't mind, I'm going to track you down, break into your house, and steal one of those.

I doubt you'll get by his Rottweiler. She'll either eat your alive or lick you to death. Either way is torture.

JulianK · Post by **JulianK** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:58 am

Holy Indylids Batman, that's quite the plethora of fedora you've go there!

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Sat May 31, 2008 1:43 pm

G-MANN wrote:Well, just sold the hat to a collector in Hollwood for $5,000.00

Cheers,
G-MANN

wow! congratulations!!!

Indycrazy5187 · Post by **Indycrazy5187** » Sat May 31, 2008 1:47 pm

Wow...that's a lot of hats....How much would you be willing to sell one of those for hahaha

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Sat May 31, 2008 1:53 pm

Here's the link now that the auction is closed for those who wanna see. It really is a nice, nice hat which John shaped to perfection.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Indiana-Jones-AB-De ... dZViewItem

Indycrazy5187 · Post by **Indycrazy5187** » Sat May 31, 2008 5:59 pm

If I had 5000 rolling around my bank account then i might have thrown down...Congrats to whoever bought that.

taikonaut · Post by **taikonaut** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:20 am

To a fan $5000 is nothing for an iconic piece. Did they took any picture of Harrison Ford wearing it?

I know what it is like owning something that has a celebrity/historical connection because sometimes it just sit there doing nothing. I have Danica Patrick's nose cone that flew off her car when she hit someone in her Formula Ford days in England. And yes she did threw a tantrum by kicking it so will be happy for it to go to a fan.

Doctor_Jones · Post by **Doctor_Jones** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:43 am

taikonaut wrote:To a fan $5000 is nothing for an iconic piece. Did they took any picture of Harrison Ford wearing it?

I know what it is like owning something that has a celebrity/historical connection because sometimes it just sit there doing nothing. I have Danica Patrick's nose cone that flew off her car when she hit someone in her Formula Ford days in England. And yes she did threw a tantrum by kicking it so will be happy for it to go to a fan.

I love Danica.... sigh.

zeus36 · Post by **zeus36** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:56 am

The buyer has a great &bay ID- I'm jealous !

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:11 pm

Hmmm. Wow. Wonder what the one I have from the film is worth?

The film hats for Harrison were numbered in a particular color of felt pen.(by Bernie) I reckon only we know how many we made for him. I gotta a feeling, there will be more hats supposedly worn by him, than there actually were made.

(there were alot of hats left over that were not used. I guess beaver fur just held up better than what was used prior) I may have to authenticate some of these in the future. If my or Marc's handwriting is not on the inside, indicating it was Harrisons, there may be stunt hats sold as his hats. One stunt double practically wore Harrison's size. Fedora

taikonaut · Post by **taikonaut** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:54 pm

Fedora wrote:Hmmm. Wow. Wonder what the one I have from the film is worth?

Steve, are you offering it for sale

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darthjones · Post by **darthjones** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:00 am

One from the film?! Cool! Any chance we can see a couple pics. of it? Is it one of the newer looking ones or full of Fullers?

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:41 am

Wonder what the one I have from the film is worth?

I thought they weren't going to allow you to even buy back one of the hats? Did they have a change of heart?

Please elablorate.

Post by **Ken** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:55 am

Steve if you have a hat from the movie dont you ever dare part with it! But do make sure you get it evaluated and insured

Ken

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:35 am

Yeah, Steve. IF it is a verifiable screen used hat worn by Ford, then you most likely have a $20,000+ investment in your hands. I would get it separately insured aside from your standard homeowners insurance. Document it with photos and video as well and keep it in a safety deposit box in your bank, NOT your home. If theres a fire and you lose your hat, then you also lose your documentation so keep it somewhere else. Bank is safest.

Indycrazy5187 · Post by **Indycrazy5187** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:47 pm

Yea steve...Keep the hat...i know I would

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:29 pm

Fedora wrote:Hmmm. Wow. Wonder what the one I have from the film is worth? The film hats for Harrison were numbered in a particular color of felt pen.(by Bernie) I reckon only we know how many we made for him. I gotta a feeling, there will be more hats supposedly worn by him, than there actually were made. (there were alot of hats left over that were not used. I guess beaver fur just held up better than what was used prior) I may have to authenticate some of these in the future. If my or Marc's handwriting is not on the inside, indicating it was Harrisons, there may be stunt hats sold as his hats. One stunt double practically wore Harrison's size. Fedora

Steve,

The same collector that bought my hat is interested in the hat you announced here. Just in case you are interested in selling it. If so drop me a PM and I will give you his contact info.

Cheers,
G-MANN

Zach R. · Post by **Zach R.** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:35 pm

Whoever it is has some serious money to spend, they've bought some pretty impressive American History pieces according to their eBay listings.

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:40 am

Zach R. wrote:Whoever it is has some serious money to spend, they've bought some pretty impressive American History pieces according to their eBay listings.

Yes he sure does and from what we have discussed he has quite a collection of movie memorabilia. I'm sure he would make a VERY good offer to Steve.

Cheers,
G-MANN

Oklahoma Jones · Post by **Oklahoma Jones** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:05 am

How would anyone feel about hat # 49 from the felt run used for the movie?

Henry · Post by **Henry** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:25 pm

Oklahoma Jones wrote:How would anyone feel about hat # 49 from the felt run used for the movie?

I am not trying to be a nay sayer here, but a hat "worn by" Harrison Ford is a bit different, in my opinion, than a hat simply placed on his head for a screen test. I have one of the KOTCS hats worn by Ford (#3) and can say that the 20,000.00 price tag is still too low for what it is. I understand the story that went with G-Manns hat, and to me that is really stretching the bounds of "worn by." Without one of the screen test shots (which I know for a fact did not accompany the hat), its nothing more than a Indy style hat. Its not production used, not screen used, and if I am not mistaken, the hat in question did not even fit Harrisons head (according to Bernie). So what was it, other than hype about the film, and decent story, that warranted 5,000.00? At least a felt hat #49, if actually used, is still a legitamate production used hat, and should bring about 5,000.00 at best. I guess as long as the buyer is happy with what was purchased, and GMANN was certain forth wright with the info, then there is no harm nor foul, but we all know that this was not what collectors view as a true Indiana Jones fedora worn by Harrison Ford. Just my opinion for what its worth.

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:59 pm

He is happy with the hat and nobody forced him to make me the offer for the hat. It is worth what he was willing to pay for it. No more no less.

Furthermore, the day you sell your hat for $20,000 is the day it will be worth $20,000. Until then it is worth exactly what you paid for it.

G-MANN

Henry · Post by **Henry** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:17 am

G-MANN wrote:He is happy with the hat and nobody forced him to make me the offer for the hat. It is worth what he was willing to pay for it. No more no less.

Furthermore, the day you sell your hat for $20,000 is the day it will be worth $20,000. Until then it is worth exactly what you paid for it.

G-MANN

Well then I guess its worth 22,500.00. I didn't mean to offend you, I am a purist when it comes to collecting. Don't get me wrong, I read the description, there was certainly nothing with held. The problem comes when the person who now owns it decides to sell the hat. This person may embelish the provenance, or use a similar twist that was used in the original auction. Was it misrepresentation......no, but was the hat auctioned really a Harrison Ford worn Indiana Jones fedora as collectors would define..........no. I guess this hat falls into a category of its own, but should not, in my opinion, be considered a Harrison Ford "worn" fedora.

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:31 am

If that's what you paid and you are happy then that's exactly what it's worth.

G-MANN

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:11 am

but we all know that this was not what collectors view as a true Indiana Jones fedora worn by Harrison Ford.

Well, the guy who bought it did.

What I don't get is how if Ford tried the hat on that it's "stretching bounds" to say he wore it. I don't know how else to word it. I'd have to say that if he tried it on then he wore it. Period. It's no stretch, it's just a fact.

If that's what you paid and you are happy then that's exactly what it's worth.

I'd say that is the VERY bottom line.

Henry · Post by **Henry** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:22 am

agent5 wrote:
but we all know that this was not what collectors view as a true Indiana Jones fedora worn by Harrison Ford.
Well, the guy who bought it did.

What I don't get is how if Ford tried the hat on that it's "stretching bounds" to say he wore it. I don't know how else to word it. I'd have to say that if he tried it on then he wore it. Period. It's no stretch, it's just a fact.

If that's what you paid and you are happy then that's exactly what it's worth.
I'd say that is the VERY bottom line.

i]"Well, the guy who bought it did."[/i

That is nothing more than wishful thinking, or inexperience in the collecting field.

[i]"What I don't get is how if Ford tried the hat on that it's "stretching bounds" to say he wore it. I don't know how else to word it. I'd have to say that if he tried it on then he wore it. Period. It's no stretch, it's just a fact."[/i]

That is not in dispute, however the implication that the term "worn" implies in the collecting community.

[i]"I'd say that is the VERY bottom line"[/i]

Obvioulsy you are not a collector, or you have not kept tabs on the market.

Example:

03/08 Indy Whip sold 57,000.00
03/08 Holy Grail Cup 35,000.00
2007 Indy Jacket Last Crusade 90,000.00
2002 Indy Whip TOD 32,200.00
1999 Indy Staff of Ra Head Piece (Not screen used/ was crew gift) 60,000.00

1999 Indy Gloves (which were not worn by Harrison) 5,500.00
1999 Indy Shirt TOD 18,000.00

Notice that there is not a hat listed in the FEW examples above. That would be because a true screen worn hat from the Indiana Jones films are a scarce as they come. Especially hat proven to have been worn by Harrison himself. Butterfileds/ Christies, Gurnseys, and Profiles In History specificly stated that a conservative auction estimate would be between 40,000.00- 60,000.00. Now that speaks volumes I would say.

This is not a school yard fight, its simply an opnion that is shared by more than just myself. I have not said that GMANN did anything wrong. He simply stated facts, your right. However wording can create many implications, or extend the bounds of fact. If this person is happy, good for him or her. I am looking forward to the auction description that no doubt will soon follow that hat.

Dutch_jones · Post by **Dutch_jones** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:35 am

Well well, second forum I see you on Henry. Are you actually going to post pictures of your highly praised collection now? Or are you going to do it like you did before: big stories and no proof what so ever. How is your Temple of Doom Stetson doing?

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:35 am

Obvioulsy you are not a collector

Wow. I'm insulted.

The Adventurebilt is an Indiana Jones fedora, yes? Yes.

The hat was sent to Ford for him to try on, yes? Yes.

It is an Indiana Jones fedora worn by Harrison Ford. Fact? Yes!

It was never, ever claimed to be a production hat or even made for the production and the guy who purchased it knew that full well. STILL, it IS an Indy fedora worn by Ford. The guy who bought it thought it to be worth $5000.

Now, since you know all about the 'market' and what the price of such items are supposed to be, could you please tell me the exact price the G-mann hat is supposed to be worth?

Henry · Post by **Henry** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:45 am

Dutch_jones wrote:Well well, second forum I see you on Henry. Are you actually going to post pictures of your highly praised collection now? Or are you going to do it like you did before: big stories and no proof what so ever. How is your Temple of Doom Stetson doing?

No I am not posting any photos as usual. They were online for sometime. As for believing me, simply ask Steve himself, he'll vouch for the hat. This is typical. Someone of "importance" on the messageboard is disagreed with, then suddenly all his worker bees come to the rescue by attempting to slander the other person. Do your best, makes no difference to me. I did not want to throw this nugget out there, but since I can see how this thread is going...here you go..... the hat GMANN sent to Western Costumes, the very one that Harrison "wore" for the fittings was too small for his head, and he was not able to get it on.....LOL! Don't believe me....ask Bernie........LOL! So I guess even the loose claim of the hat being "worn" is still not applicable.....

You should really know your audience before you attempt to throw darts. Here is a thread about my hat. Read carefuly my good man, and learn.

viewtopic.php?t=30430

Henry · Post by **Henry** » Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:47 am

agent5 wrote:
Obvioulsy you are not a collector
Wow. I'm insulted.

The Adventurebilt is an Indiana Jones fedora, yes? Yes. The hat was sent to Ford for him to try on, yes? Yes. It is an Indiana Jones fedora worn by Harrison Ford. Fact? Yes! It was never, ever claimed to be a production hat or even made for the production and the guy who purchased it knew that full well. STILL, it IS an Indy fedora worn by Ford. The guy who bought it thought it to be worth $5000.

Now, since you know all about the 'market' and what the price of such items are supposed to be, could you please tell me the exact price the G-mann hat is supposed to be worth?

Sorry no I could not, as that item is not something that I would invest time to research. It does not appeal to me. Your still missing the point. Makes no difference to me. Enjoy it for what its "worth."

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