Cheap Whips

Indywanabe91 · Post by **Indywanabe91** » Sun May 11, 2008 3:56 am

what are the cheapest whips that anyone has come across because im on a budget

Post by **BullWhipBorton** » Sun May 11, 2008 4:22 am

The cheapest? Well you can pick up something like this for under 10 dollars.

As a whip its kind of silly but i suppose it sorta looks the part for a costume.

Price and quality tend to go together, but there is a wide range of whips and prices available depending on how much you want to spend and if you are looking for a costume piece or a real functioning whip. Let us know what your looking for and what will fit in your budget and we can probably point out some specific whips that would suit you.

Dan

Long John Tinfoil · Post by **Long John Tinfoil** » Sun May 11, 2008 10:25 am

Or you could try this.

http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/andm ... 70161.aspx

Indiana Green · Post by **Indiana Green** » Sun May 11, 2008 11:11 am

Do you want a cheap whip just for costuming purposes? Or do you want an inexpensive whip that's really, really a whip? Because I always suggest a whip from jrzjoe on ebay (30-50 dollars will get you a decent leather whip to hang from your belt.) However, as soon as I say this someone will chime in and tell you not to waste your money and to buy a Caicedo or an Indy on a Budget (IOAB) whip. Don't get me wrong, these are quality, inexpensive whips and most people just don't want to see you disappointed but honestly some people just want a costume piece that cracks if they want it to crack. So just ask yourself what you really want the whip for.

-Indy Green

Indywanabe91 · Post by **Indywanabe91** » Sun May 11, 2008 1:29 pm

Dan very funny but thank you

Indy Green- no i want an authentic whip for the sport but im search for the cheapest i can get

Indiana Green · Post by **Indiana Green** » Sun May 11, 2008 4:34 pm

Well, I'm not a whip expert so I suppose someone else will have to help you out on this one. You could check out Adam Winrich's Indy on a budget, www.winrichwhips.com
or maybe Gus Caicedo, www.purewhips.com
Both have great deals!

-Indy Green

rjallen70 · Post by **rjallen70** » Sun May 11, 2008 4:43 pm

How about Nylon?

Indywanabe91 · Post by **Indywanabe91** » Sun May 11, 2008 5:00 pm

i was considering nylon what are the pros of having a nylon as opposed to a leather whip?

michaelb · Post by **michaelb** » Sun May 11, 2008 5:38 pm

Ya know, I have to agree with Indiana Green here...
My first "Indy Whips", ($6), were exactly what he is showing from above. For costume purposes they are great. For functionality, they will last about a day.

Back in the eighties, my Mom was asking how the bullwhip was working out, and I told her "Horrible! I need a real whip!. Not really knowing what that was. She recommended me to an equestrian shop, a few towns over... (My family has a lot of farm, cow, horse, history, etc...) I was like, "Wow!", and grabbed the phone book. My friend and I raced over the next day and had to wait for about a week when the 12" (!), Bull whips would be in stock. We were so stoked about getting real leather bull whips, and at that length.

The funny part was the guy behind the counter thinking, "What do these High School kids want 12' Bull whips for and why are they so excited? (Needless to say, he looked a little freaked out... I should have explained it, and he would have hpefully understood). A little embarrassing when I think about it now.

Anyway, they were about $30. They were phenomenal, lasted for a few years. I decided, whether it be Star Wars or Indiana Jones, I would upgrade a piece, every time I was planning to go out for a costume party, etc.

It was time to upgrade again, and I got the whip I wanted, from jrzjoe on eBay, just like Indiana Green suggested... Only because it had decent reviews and had the fully braided handle. Also, I was going up in price and reached $60. I have it now and it is AWESOME.

I would like to upgrade again, at a slightly higher price, and am checking out their new Kangaroo whips that are a bit over $100.

For now, I can't complain, and they are a lot of fun. Maybe when I am making my millions, I will buy a David Morgan for $800. But I really can't justify anything over $200.

I'm sorry, but I thought it was an interesting story, and hopefully helpful,

Michael B

Indywanabe91 · Post by **Indywanabe91** » Sun May 11, 2008 5:54 pm

well this will be my 3rd whip but im looking for a desent priced one because my first two were gifts and i dont want to spend too much

rjallen70 · Post by **rjallen70** » Sun May 11, 2008 6:08 pm

Pros
Hundreds less $ than the cheapest roo whips.

Less $ than an excellent 12 plait cowhide whip (Gus Caicedo I LOVE mine, and recomend his).

Weather proof:Honestly, I use mine in the sand, rain and even pavement from time to time.

Animals won't eat it.

Needs no care or conditioning. No rot, cracking or smell.

Cons
Slightly less accurate for target work.
Less "springy". Although Pyramid Blaster overcame this by using steel cable in his cores. I just finished a prototype that uses stiff dense 3/8" nylon cord that has seemed to overcome this as well.
IJ's whip was leather, so not as SA.

A kangaroo hide whip is hand down the nicest, & by far the best whip available. And this forum is the best place to find one, from one of the many vendors here.

A kangaroo hide whip is a Ferrari. The nylon whip is a JEEP.

Nylon is just another alternative for those on a budget, who want a real whip, and not a belt hanger. Or for those of us in the tropics where weather and environment dictate nylon as a superior material to ALL others.
Florida ranchers, who are some of the richest in the world, abandoned leather whips in the 70's in favor of nylon for obvious reasons.
Old world craftsmanship....space age material.

Any questions...pm me, and good luck on your quest.
Ron

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Sun May 11, 2008 7:51 pm

Ive been eyeing this one up,...10 foot, real leather(whatever that means), and it's "official".

http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/ ... 2&catid=69

'Blues

Indywanabe91 · Post by **Indywanabe91** » Sun May 11, 2008 8:05 pm

yea i saw that one too but before id buy i like to open up my options and look for a cheaper one that is just as good

bigrex · Post by **bigrex** » Sun May 11, 2008 8:35 pm

Todd's is cheap for a real leather whip, and it looks exactly like the movie whip. However it's probably not the best choice for everyday whip use. It's chiefly meant for quality costuming purposes.

http://www.toddscostumes.com/indy/whips ... e_whip.htm

Indywanabe91 · Post by **Indywanabe91** » Sun May 11, 2008 8:50 pm

yea bigrex, that's what i heard too
thanks

Post by **BullWhipBorton** » Mon May 12, 2008 6:01 am

Seriously, if you can wait for Adam Winrich to start up his production again. By all means do. His budget Indy bullwhips are great quality whips for the price. I actually wouldn’t mind buying one or two from him myself and I am very picky about my whips.

Another possible option is a cowhide swivel handle whip. These aren’t pretty whips and they need a little modification to the fall to make them work better, but the 6 or 8ft versions are not that bad for an inexpensive whip, and they do perform better then a lot of the so called quality e-bay whips that have been mentioned.
http://www.westernstageprops.com/miva/m ... ry_Code=AB

Mike Murphy sells decent budget bullwhip as well, The 6ft model runs under $200 US. It has a 12 plait kangaroo overlay, kinda resembles the Indy style and its not a bad whip over all.
http://www.murphywhips.com/MW03G12-plaitKangaroo.html

A lot of people speak well of Purewhips as affordable whips that handle well.

The The Australian Stock Saddle Co. sells a 7ft beginner bullwhip for $99 that is made of 12 plait red latigo cow hide and is made to resemble the crystal skull bullwhips
http://www.aussiesaddle.com/shootist/Sh ... 0Whips.htm
I’ve never used one but Colin Dangaard, the gentlemen the who runs the company seems to like them.

No clue about that noble collection whip yet. It looks kind of um "interesting", Not quite a Morgan or a Jacka though huh

I do like the machete they are selling

Nylon is another possibility. I have a hard time recommending nylon whips, as I’ve never come across one that really wowed me and won me over. With that said though there are decent ones being made at reasonable prices and they do have there uses.

Dan

classicbullwhips · Post by **classicbullwhips** » Mon May 12, 2008 12:32 pm

Dan I should send you one of my nylon whips that I make to try out and tell me what you think, could always use a review from a fellow Michigander. I have made roo, cow and nylon whips, so I know how each preforms and I think that you would be surprised with the look and feel of mine. Let me know and i will see what I can do for sending you out a test model free of charge. James

rjallen70 · Post by **rjallen70** » Mon May 12, 2008 12:50 pm

I was going to suggest a "pepsi challenge" as well.
Dollars to donuts says these nylon whips will out perform every hide whip at the same price or less, and perform well enough for 99.9% of hobbyist sport crackers in their own right.
Ron

thefish · Post by **thefish** » Mon May 12, 2008 5:38 pm

I really don't care for those non-signature Murphy's. Friend of mine has one in 8 foot, and it feels like the foundation is made of a thin piece of PVC, and it feels like there is literally NO BINDING to the transition.

Now, it's pretty. The seams are straight. The knots are tight, and it rolls out very nice, but I just don't like how it cracks.

Still, his might be an isolated case of quality control. Every other whip I have EVER handled that was a Murphy Signature, or carried his Seal of Approval was just a dream to crack.

I've been looking at picking up a couple nylon whips as well.

Just to have a couple whips that I could hand to people for teaching purposes, and whips I could abuse with a clearer conscience, (it's been raining buckets here lately, and I've wanted to go crack whips, but the weather has put a...well...dampener on things.)

I picked up a 6' nylon from WSP about a year ago, and returned it because I just didn't like how it handled.

I DO however like several of the nylons I've played with! A buddy of mine has a nice 8 footer that I like, (he got it second hand from e-bay and we don't know who the maker is. I wish I did. They'd have an order!) and I've thrown a few made by Tim Bass that were just great.

But I'm picky. ;-)

Anyway, All the best!

-The Other Dan

Post by **BullWhipBorton** » Tue May 13, 2008 6:08 am

James, Thank you, PM sent.

Dan, I kind of agree with you. The AWS Murphy bullwhips are a different breed of whip that’s for sure. They certainly are a step down for someone used to working with whips made by Joe Strain, Paul Nolan and Terry Jacka. I won’t say they are bad whips because in my own experience with them, I don’t think they are but they are made for whip crackers on a budget.

They are very light in comparison to many other whips and have a single plaited cowhide belly construction. You are right the thong starts to drop almost immediately from the handle. I find the handle a bit like short handled stock whip. I can certainly understand why this is something you may not like in a bullwhip though. I’ve never had any problem cracking them, for the most part they seem to be a fair whip for the price and seem to hold up and work well enough.

ATB.

Dan