del Carpio 10 foot KOTCS

Bernardodc · Post by **Bernardodc** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:49 pm

Hey guys,

Here's another 10 foot KOTCS

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In this one I think I got really close to Terry's whip. This time I tied the knots in the same color as the thong. I am very happy with how the knots turned out.

It has two kangaroo hide braided bellies over a rolled core, 2 bolsters and a 12 plait overlay cut with fine strands. It has an 8-strand point, just like Terry's whips. Even the fall and fall hitch are the same.

The diameter in the handle and thong are exactly the same as on my Jacka.

Anyway, the pics. Hope you guys like it. Btw, it's up for sale! Email me for details: info@delcarpiowhips.com

Regards,

Bernardo

www.delcarpiowhips.com

Cracker · Post by **Cracker** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:57 pm

Holy cow, that is gorgeous !!! The KoTCS whips are really coming out of the woodwork now. I'm glad, because I really like the look. Thanks for the great pics Bernardo.

Canuck Digger · Post by **Canuck Digger** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:01 pm

Out-blood-standing!!!! Holly molly that's a goegeous whip! Congratulations!

gi_canuck · Post by **gi_canuck** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:51 pm

Drool Drool... I... Must... Resist... Can't... spend... more... money.... Arrrrgh!!

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:16 am

very nice indeed. I like seeing your work.

thefish · Post by **thefish** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:54 am

Bernardo,

The strand width, the plaiting, the knots, the fall hitch...NAILED! It's Jacka to these eyes!

First you nail the look and design of the Morgan whips from the film better than the guy who actually MADE them does anymore, and now this...

Incredible Detail!

Good job!

-Dan

Also: Did you use a lightweight material for the foundation? Terry uses either fiberglass, graphite on his standard models, (I don't know what he's using for the KotCS design,) And what's your turks-head foundation? Lead tape? Terry just uses a smaller knot underneath doesn't he?

I haven't read a solid review of Terry's KotCS whip from anyone who has previously used Jacka whips, and I'm curious if the design difference is just the length of the handle. I know you modified a standard Aussie Jacka, but you were thinking about ordering the "Official-Unofficial" one from Aussie Saddle. Did you?

I'm just curious if he's using steel for weight on these, and if he isn't, are you following your normal Indy internal construction method and using steel. My reason is that I've been wondering how Terry's whips would handle with more weight in the end, and don't know if I want to wait and see if/when he starts taking custom orders ;-)

Thanks!

-D

WhipDude · Post by **WhipDude** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:43 pm

I like this. Everything is very straight and pristine looking. Some of your most impressive whip work yet.

Boggstandard · Post by **Boggstandard** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:37 pm

Bernardo,
As I look at the whips you made that I am fortunate to own, your potential was very evident early on.
You are developing into a real artist. Perhaps twenty years from now we will speak your name in the same reverential tone as we now speak the name of DM.
Congratulations on your success.

Satipo · Post by **Satipo** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:33 am

That is one of the best looking whips I've seen here. Bernardo, you clearly pay incredible attention to detail and have fine skills with which to implement it. If I had the money right now, I would buy this in a heartbeat.

Texas Raider · Post by **Texas Raider** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:38 am

spoken for ;-)

TR

Bernardodc · Post by **Bernardodc** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:43 am

Thank you all for the kind comments. The appreciation for my work and the desire to do things better is what keeps me going in this craft.

The response to this whip has been extremely enthusiastic, and many members are already interested in it. I guess a few good photos help

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Dan,

Thanks a lot! Since you are fond of T. Jacka's whips, those words are no small compliment. This whip is my third KOTCS whip, and I'm really pleased of how close it looks to the new Jacka whip. In a sense, my objetive is met, since I wanted to capture the look, a some of the feel of it, while using a somewhat different construction.

I believe Terry uses the same handle foundation for his KOTCS whips as his normal "heavy" whips. It consists of a figerglass rod. His other whips are much lighter and have a flexible foundation made of some resilient material. I, on the other hand used the same heavy spike as for my standard Indy bullwhips. It adds a bit more weight to the handle, and improves the balance, IMO. I also added some lead tape at the butt, again to improve the balance, but I put a lot more than Terry does. Terry adds only a tiny amount of lead, that I wonder if it changes the balance at all. As a reference point, DM typically loads his whips with approx. 100 grams of lead, versus 27 grams that I found on my Jacka.

Dan Borton has been gathering a lot of information directly from Terry himself about his new whip used on Indy 4, so I would expect Dan to post about this some time within the next few weeks.

Regarding ordering an "Official-Unofficial" Jacka from Aussie saddle, I would have done so if their whips were not so over priced. Obvioulsy they've already jumped into the "famous whipmaker" badwagon. I'm sure they make more money than Terry, which is unfair to both final customer and whipmaker. It would be great if Terry can offer his whips directly, so that customers pay less, and he makes more coins.

My converted Jacka handles way better than when it was long handled, at least for me. The shorter handle feels better balanced because it brings the balance point closer to your hand, and with the lead tape I added at the butt, it feels even better. Even so, it feels heavy.

Now that I'm in the US, you may want to send me your Jacka for a conversion, since shipping it back and forth would be cheap. Fancy the idea?

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Regards,

Bernardo

www.delcarpiowhips.com

P.S. Another pic and I particularly liked a lot. Wested jacket and bag courtesy of Paul Nolan

Enjoy!

Cracker · Post by **Cracker** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:30 pm

Bernardo, what color is the kangaroo?

Bernardodc · Post by **Bernardodc** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:28 pm

The color is whisky. I noticed the color in the last pic looked a bit off, so I quickly corrected it and uploaded again. It looks now as it supossed to look. In the first pics the color is dead on.

Thanks,

Bernardo

JMObi · Post by **JMObi** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:12 pm

What a nice looking whip. I really like this design as it reminds me of my very first real whip, bought at a farm supplies shop in 1981. It was a 10 plt redhide Aussie bullwhip, looking very similar to this, but with a 10" handle. It cost me $80, a lot in those days.

Post by **BullWhipBorton** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:09 pm

thefish wrote:I haven't read a solid review of Terry's KotCS whip from anyone who has previously used Jacka whips, and I'm curious if the design difference is just the length of the handle.

I'm just curious if he's using steel for weight on these..

My reason is that I've been wondering how Terry's whips would handle with more weight in the end, and don't know if I want to wait and see if/when he starts taking custom orders ;-)

Dan, as mentioned, I’ve been collecting a great deal of information on these whips from Terry directly, as well as from other sources involved with the film and others who have used the movie whips. I've got some great stuff, including some pretty neat recent information that I am very excited about. The details will be posted when the new Indy gear site goes online in a few weeks as well as on the fourm, as it will be exclusive to us.

The Indy 4 bullwhips however are not just a shorter handled version of his standard Australian bullwhips that Terry makes. They are made heavier with the transition bound somewhat differently then his normal whips which compensate for the shortened handle. The balance is a bit different then the standard whip as well; it’s actually rather heavy in comparison. The handles are fiberglass, These are serious whips and Terry is putting a lot of effort into making each one perform as well as he is able, he is very adamant in that they should perform exactly the way he thinks that they should.

We are finishing details on postage and import permits, etc. once all that is taken care of and we make sure the ordering process is working smoothly, I’ll be announcing prices and ordering details here at COW. He will be able to supply 8 and 10 ft whips, both lengths that where supplied to the movie. They will include a certificate of authenticity from him. Keep watching.

Dan

JMObi · Post by **JMObi** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:50 pm

I'd be interested to know the approx dimensions of these whips, whether by Mr Jacka or by Bernardo or anyone else. What is the general width of the thong at the ringknot. Is it about 26mm, as in a modern DM? That thicker look really seems to suit this Jacka design.

Bernardodc · Post by **Bernardodc** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:09 pm

Jacka whips of this style are thicker than modern Morgan whips. My Jacka measures 28mm in diameter at the widest part, after the ring knot. I'd say that's a good average, so that's what I follow for my KOTCS whips.

Terry's whips are thicker in that area part because of the heavy binding at the transition zone. Terry uses a bailing twine like material that adds bulk and increases the final diameter.

Regards,

Bernardo

JMObi · Post by **JMObi** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:24 am

Thanks Bernardo for this information.

Gaucho · Post by **Gaucho** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:11 pm

Very nice whip

Bernardo can put this model in his website too.

Regards.

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