Does Indy ever get thirsty? A canteen discussion

[Luke Warmwater]

It's not real wise to go into the jungle or the desert without a canteen. We never see Indy with one, so it's got to be in that magical bag of his. So I pose this question to you, the experts: What sort of canteen do you think Indy might carry, one that would fit into the larger of the two sections of his MkVII?

[Mississippi Jones]

Well, he uses a canteen in the Emperor's Tomb video game. So I'm sure he puts a canteen in his MKVII...at least any person with common sense would. Maybe even a flask.

[IndyWannaBee]

Probably but if you recall he always seems to be close to a water source as in river, lake, ocean, etc.

[GoldenHistorian]

i remember a post like this a few years ago and magnoli said that a ww2 british army canteen would be appropriate because it fits inside the large pockets in the mkvii

[IndyWannaBee]

Something along the lines of these?


Or one of these American made from WW2 in which I already own about three of them and some newer ones made of plastic.



I also own one US Army canteen from the late 50's that I got from my stepdad. It has the canvas cover but is round, about 2 inches thick and has a 1 inch spout.

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[GoldenHistorian]

the british one above is simialer to the one in emperors tomb,
be careful drinking from vintage US army canteens and cups they contain aliminium i would think either repro's or modern plastic ones would be safe.
but the cup on the american one is a better because it is more compact.

[Luke Warmwater]

Soda and beer come in aluminum containers... what's the big deal?

[Swindiana]

The one in ET looks like the British canteen with the "skeleton" webbing holder, i.e. the holder that forms a cross pattern holding it.

I think one of those should do the trick.

Regards,
Swindiana

[Montana Plains]

Probably but if you recall he always seems to be close to a water source as in river, lake, ocean, etc.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's always safe to drink. I would hope that he'd have some other means of getting hydrated.

[Swindiana]

As found HERE.

Regards,
Swindiana

[IndyWannaBee]

Wow! For that price get two!!!!

[GoldenHistorian]

Soda and beer come in aluminum containers... what's the big deal?

i dont know but i have heared that this sort of aluminium can cause sickness i dont know why it might be beause of the process of making hard aluminium.

[IndyWannaBee]

That might explain my mental capacity! I have been drinking out of those aluminum canteen (US Army 50's version) since my Cub Scout days! Now I have an excuse! Can someone tell my wife that is why I spend so much money on Indy gear is because of the aluminum poisoning I have been receiving most of my childhood? Thanks!

[hocfutue]

The P37 water bottle would be a good choice.

A US M1910 canteen would be another good choice, and one likely to be in a surplus store in the mid-late '30s. Particularly one with the earlier aluminum cap, rather than the WWII era and later plastic caps.

Indy served with the French army in WWI, so a souvenir French water bottle might still be in his gear. Or maybe a German one he picked up in Cairo. Or maybe even a early Boy Scout canteen from his trips with his old troop.

All of those would have plausible back stories.
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[Swindiana]

Belgian army. Though in France I guess.

Regards,
Swindiana

[Indiana MarkVII]

I carry a non SA 0.5 liter plastic water bottle in my MarkVII repro. It's very small considering our Arizona desert heat now (90F) in the afternoons, and we're not done with April yet.

[kiltie]

On the subject of canteens and general adventuring, I've been surprised on two accounts:
The relative rise in cost of the old metal GI canteens and the difficulty in finding the old BSA kinda canteens. The latter is the kind I'd like to get my hands on. Anyone have an idea as to where to get one of those? I'm thinking of the one with the long strap that you would wear over your shoulder and the case that is either quilted canvas or, better still, the ones that look like a wool Indian blanket ( multi colored horizontal stripes ).

[Serial Hero]

this is what I use:

http://www.mysigg.com/index.asp?PageAct ... ProdID=289
It's an updated version of a 1940's Swiss Army canteen. It has a nice little cup, and fits right inside the mkVII.

[Long John Tinfoil]

You might want to try this

http://www.crazycrow.com/Merchant2/merc ... 20-100-000

[Luke Warmwater]

I have a Civil War canteen, for reenacting, but I like to think Indy is a bit more up-to-date.

[bigrex]

Soda and beer come in aluminum containers... what's the big deal?

I think part of the reason they no longer make aluminum cookware and silverware is that there is supposed to be some connection between high aluminum content in the brain and Alzheimer's disease.

[Long John Tinfoil]

Well then, how about this

http://www.wildernessdining.com/sp280.html

or this

http://www.gleasoncamping.com/browsepro ... teens.html

The problem with these is that the body of the canteen is plastic, whereas the originals were metal. You wetted the blanket cover and evaporation cooled the canteen and contents. That won't happen with these.

This will give you the cooling effect, but maybe not the look you're after

http://www.fatiguesarmynavy.com/store/i ... ed_Canteen

Older metal canteens are notorious for gathering rust. The problem is moisture left inside. For storage, use very hot water to wash the inside of the canteen. The hotter the water, the more the water left inside will evaporate. Then hang the canteen upside down to drain, with a wick of paper toweling to absorb moisture left inside. As the wick gets damp, replace it with another until there is no more moisture to absorb.

You can get drum style canteens from Civil War re-enactor suppliers and make your own blanket cover, I suppose.

[theinterchange]

I was just about to mention the Emperor's Tomb canteen but was beat to the punch. I always wondered about that.. maybe he has a hidden camelback hydration thing? haha.

[indywan kenobi]

[quote="Long John Tinfoil"]Well then, how about this

http://www.wildernessdining.com/sp280.html

I have that very same canteen

[GoldenHistorian]

also the one posted by indywan kenobi is used in emperors tomb its one of those items that you can pick up in some levels and use it also holds 2 times the amount than the regular british army canteen in ET

[WarrenJones]

having been an eagle scout, I may be able to shed some light on those aluminum canteens and cook kits, for some reason I dont know why, but have seen it in action, you can cook with the cookkits or boil water in the canteen on a gas stove with them, but they melt in seconds on an open wood fire,

[IndyBlues]

C'mon guys. We all know that Indy uses the canteen that "Kelloggs Pop Tarts" is offering on the new packages. It even has his picture on the side and everything.
'Blues

[Ken]

Anybody got a good uk / europe source for these canteens?

Ken

[Herr Doktor]

Anybody got a good uk / europe source for these canteens?

Ken

Soldier of Fortune for reenactors is in the UK...you could try there.

http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/reenactors/select.asp

[Treadwell]

re: why aluminum soda cans are safe...I read that they have some sort of coating fused to the metal on the inside. Or something like that. The soda is supposedly not contacting bare metal.

As for a canteen having to fit into one of the sections of the MK VII, there's nothing to suggest that Indy didn't remove the divider to make the bag more versatile. That's what I did to mine.

[conceited_ape]

Same. Soooo glad I did. The divider is very limiting.

[WeeMadHamish]

re: why aluminum soda cans are safe...I read that they have some sort of coating fused to the metal on the inside. Or something like that. The soda is supposedly not contacting bare metal.

That is correct. They are plastic coated on the inside. Otherwise the carbonic acid from your favorite cola would eat right through the can.

[viper80134]

Theres always the one you can get from the pop tarts carton lol....

[Snakewhip_Sable]

I figured Indy would carry a whiskey flask if anything.

[Luke Warmwater]

In the Raiders novelization he does and takes a big drink off of it before grabbing the idol.

[Abner]

I'm a fan of the WWII (and post-WWII) US Army canteens that were two-piece construction and made of stainless steel.

The earlier WWI canteens were aluminum, like the one pictured above.

[Indybantha Jones]

http://www.majorsurplus.com/WWII-Britis ... 2.aspx[url][/url]

[Arkansas Smith]

You can get his actual canteen right here:

http://www2.kelloggs.com/Promotion/Prom ... ?PID=12840



Sorry Blues, I just missed your post where you beat me to this. Kudos.

[Darth Indiana]

i use a plastic pilot's flask that i got from a military surplus store. its not period acurate, but it does the job, doesn't leach poisons or whatever into the water, and fits perfectly in the right back compartment of my Magnoli MK VII.
here's one on Amazon.com

[Luke Warmwater]

A couple of weeks ago I found at my local surplus store a one-quart, clear-plastic, rectangular Swiss canteen that perfectly fits the smaller of the two center compartments of the Mk7. So I'm good to go.

[distantpeople]

Although never seen onscreen, perhaps this could be a contender for Indy’s water bottle during one of his adventures... then of course lost, discarded, burnt up or simply left at the dig site in the desert.

This is a bottle, water, aluminium, I.P. [India Pattern] as described within the British officer's Dress Regulations 1900 and used during the second Boer War up until WWII. It was kidney-shaped with an aluminium and cork stopper attached to the spout and covered in drab cloth. A good reference site if you’d like more detail is http://www.karkeeweb.com



British officers were required to purchase their own kit built to the approved government military pattern. Bottles were available from a variety of outfitters like Mills or Dunhills.

This water bottle and stopper were in excellent shape but missing pretty much everything else —covering, carrier and shoulder strap. These were reproduced using the excellent finished bridle available from David of MakeItJones, an original buckle, rings and c1930s British battle dress wool. The Chicago screws will be replaced once period brass rivets arrive. The tag is a reproduction based on a 1927 example.

Following a number of bleach, ball bearing and boiled water treatments, the bottle and flask can again be (and will be) used.

The addition of a 1930s whisky flask with velvet lined case (with MKVII-style air holes in the bucket) is for water purification and, I assure you, purely medicinal.

[backstagejack]

This is what I use. 1918 canteen with the officer variant leather holder. I wanted it because it had an actual belt loop and didn't require a webbed equipment belt. Came with a leather strap that fits in and has a hook for attachment to a saddle.

I'm gonna slap some Pecards on this baby soon. Got it from WPG

[distantpeople]

On the shelf until the rain stops...

[distantpeople]

This is what I use. 1918 canteen with the officer variant leather holder. I wanted it because it had an actual belt loop and didn't require a webbed equipment belt. Came with a leather strap that fits in and has a hook for attachment to a saddle.

Like it. Post a photo of it attached to your saddle when you can.