specs on a hat

Post by **Holt** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:36 pm

Hi..I am still learning here so correct me if I am wrong

are these specs matching a raiders hat or an other from the films?

these specs below are from an adventurer

Crown:5.25inches
front/rear brim:3 inches
side brim:2.5 inches'

thanks
Holt

gabrielle · Post by **gabrielle** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:44 pm

Raiders Specs:

Size: 7 ¼ (size 58 European)
Crown: 5 ½ (5.5) inches
Brim (front & back): 2 ¾ (2.75) inches
Brim (sides): 2 5/8 (2.625) inches
Ribbon: 1 ½ (1.5) inches (39mm)

Hope that helps Holt.

Post by **Holt** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:48 pm

thanks gabrielle.this helps...alltough I see that those specs I posted are very close to the raiders specs but not 100% spot on...oh well

you have a keppler right?is your with black ribbon or brown?

thanks
Eric

gabrielle · Post by **gabrielle** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:54 pm

Yep 1 Keppler with black ribbon and 1 Jimmy Pierce with dark brown ribbon ordered last night. Should have that one in about 3 weeks.

Glad I could help and if you look up under where it says Register top of page...click on IndyGear Main and then when there on the left hover over Gear and click on Fedora. Gives a wealth of info there on the movie hats.

Post by **Holt** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:58 pm

thanks

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:05 pm

Holt, the Adventurer is a nice-looking hat from photos I've seen of it, but the 3 inch brim is a wider spec than any ever quoted for any of the film hats. My opinion is that the Raiders brim varied from 2 7/8 inches in front and back, to 2 3/4 in front and back, and the sides varied from 2 5/8 to 2 1/2 inches. Magnoli's HJ Raiders replica features the 2 7/8 X 2/5/8 measurement, which I believe Magnoli's site says was taken directly off a film-used hat. The crown height for the Raiders hat was 5 1/2 inches open crown, between 5 and 4 1/2 inches when creased.

The measurements of the hats we bought from Mr. Swales varied, so I suppose the film hats may have varied as well, and this does seem to be the case when you look at different scenes in Raiders; the brim widths do seem to vary from scene to scene.

EDIT: Just one more note, if the brim measures 3 inches all around, it does not have the distinctive Indy dimensionally cut brim; if that is the case, you would either have to trim the brim yourself or have it done professionally.

Jack

Post by **Holt** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:13 pm

thanks Jack..you know wich one I mean?themovieshop hat right?fur felt

but is it very noticiable when you have it on?can you see that it is a little bigger in brim width

thanks
Eric

Piker · Post by **Piker** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:20 pm

Jaredraptor posted pics of the adventurer about a week back.

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:23 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:thanks Jack..you know wich one I mean?themovieshop hat right?fur felt

but is it very noticiable when you have it on?can you see that it is a little bigger in brim width

thanks
Eric

No, when you said "Adventurer" I assumed you meant the David Morgan hat. The ones I see on themovieshop are the officially licensed versions with 2.5 inch brims. I can't find any with 3 inch brims there. I wouldn't recommend the DP, myself; I think a Federation, or perhaps Steve & Marc's upcoming factory made AB would be a better value and look more accurate.

Jack

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:28 pm

Just to make sure we were talking about the same site, I was on themovieshop.com.

Yes, even a little difference in brim width can be quite noticeable.

Jack

Post by **Holt** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:30 pm

this one.I just have been looking around to get a decent hat.that is very reconizable to a raiders hat.but I am not so very conserned about SA.
at least not yet...but I do like the HJ Magnoli offers.heck I love it..but it's the money you know....but still I am leaning very towards magnolis...

I'll see what I will do?

but here is the link
http://www.themovieshop.com/Adventurer- ... -Celebrity

holt

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:39 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:this one.I just have been looking around to get a decent hat.that is very reconizable to a raiders hat.but I am not so very conserned about SA.
at least not yet...but I do like the HJ Magnoli offers.heck I love it..but it's the money you know....but still I am leaning very towards magnolis...

I'll see what I will do?

but here is the link
http://www.themovieshop.com/Adventurer- ... -Celebrity

holt

I think that's a Christie's hat, but I'm not sure; it's strange they don't name the manufacturer. It looks like a nice hat, but as you say, it might be a good idea to get Magnoli's HJ when you can; I own one, and it's a fantastic hat!

Jack

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:50 pm

Aeris_Canon wrote:I don't know that the agreed upon 5 1/2" crown height is more of a speculated fan guess over the years than it is the actual height of the Raiders hat used in most of the film.

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Fedora says the 5 1/2 inch crown measurement was taken directly from a screen-used Raiders hat in the Lucasfilm Archive.

Jack

gabrielle · Post by **gabrielle** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:55 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:I just have been looking around to get a decent hat.that is very reconizable to a raiders hat. holt

There are several good hats to be had for a very reasonable price...

1 Keppler - I think he just raised the price to $175 for a beaver/rabbit blend. http://www.adventure-supply.com/fedora.htm

2 Camptown - $175 beaver/rabbit blend
http://www.camptownhats.com

3 Jimmy Pierce - $135 pure rabbit
http://www.jimmypiercedesigns.com

It's best to call all 3 of them to reach them. Their #s are either on the websites or you can get them here. There is a time difference to watch out for, Lee Keppler is in CA, JPD in TX and Ken (Camptown) in NJ.

Good luck and have fun on the great hat hunt, getting there is 1/2 the fun..

Post by **Holt** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:57 pm

I'll see if I pick one up from themovieshop.com

but if I do.....this is just if.......how do I trim a hat?any links of a tutorial?

thanks
Eric

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:01 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:I'll see if I pick one up from themovieshop.com

but if I do.....this is just if.......how do I trim a hat?any links of a tutorial?

thanks
Eric

Yes, there's tons of useful information in the Fedora section. If you are not too confident, though, it would be better to have a pro trim your brim. If you mess up, you can never start over. Try the sticky "Frequently Asked Questions and Links."

Jack

BoilermakerJones · Post by **BoilermakerJones** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:22 pm

The hat from themovieshop.com is a Christy's. If you click on the photo of the interior of the hat it has the Christy's logo.

Matt

Post by **Holt** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:26 pm

does anyone picked that hat yet?or would I be the first one?

I am just so concened about that brim beieng a little to big.I am afraid it would look to wide and big on my or anyones head for that matter

or isn't this such a big deal to be concerned about?

thanks
Holt

gabrielle · Post by **gabrielle** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:28 pm

Read my last post and check them out, the hats are all pretty good Indy replicas. The cost isn't bad either...

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:40 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:does anyone picked that hat yet?or would I be the first one?

I am just so concened about that brim beieng a little to big.I am afraid it would look to wide and big on my or anyones head for that matter

or isn't this such a big deal to be concerned about?

thanks
Holt

If you plan to wear the hat a lot, I would say it is a big deal. The companies Gabrielle posted are all good, and you should also keep in mind that Steve & Marc may have just discovered the original Raiders block & felt & may be offering it at a very affordable price soon-- so it may pay to wait a little longer, especially if you are most interested in the Raiders hat.

Jack

Post by **Holt** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:40 pm

I am mostly looking for displaying it..and maby take it with me on my egypt trips and such,...but not much more then that..maby once in a while on some fishing trips but I dont use a hat on a daylie basis

Holt

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:46 pm

Indiana Holt wrote:I am mostly looking for displaying it..and maby take it with me on my egypt trips and such,...but not much more then that..maby once in a while on some fishing trips but I dont use a hat on a daylie basisHolt

I think the Magnoli hat would be an excellent choice for those uses, plus it's from the original company. But if you are looking to save money, the other hats may be a better value for you. The Christy's I would stay away from as it is still unproven here, but that's just my opinion.

Jack

Post by **Holt** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:11 pm

thanks for the offer.If I get the Christies hat I will for sure give you a pm.thanks.really kind of you

thanks
Holt

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:39 pm

The Magnolis are specially treated to resist shrinkage, so it should work out OK for you, but AC is right, better quality felt will probably outlast the HJ.

And I'm not sure, but I don't think anyone mentioned the new revamped Federations which are slated to come out later this month (Hatsdirect.com)! So, you have a lot of choices and good luck in making the right choice for you.

Jack