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The one on the left is the Stetson Temple. I think we can all agree that a side by side comparison favors the Miller. BTW, the ribbons on both of those hats were replaced.Strider wrote:I've heard not to get the Stetson Temple wet for any reason, but no one's ever talked too much junk about the Millers that I can remember reading.
) so i had to go MACGYVER on this one. with a little mix and match, i created my own little "hatblock" and now there's no taper. Phew! That should prove to be interesting. The tutorials I've read seem straightforward enough to be doable.Mark Brody wrote:You can actually order it prebashed, but there's no guarantee as to how good of a job they'll do bashing it. Unless your hat is being shaped by an Indy enthusiast, you're better off shaping it yourself.
Thanks, but yeah. That's a good bit out of my budget.eazybox wrote:This might be more than you want to spend, but you should know that Todd offers the TOD bridge hat:
http://www.toddscostumes.com
Click "personalize your hat with custom styling!" from the Herbert Johnson Fedora page.
Jack
conceited_ape wrote:Argh! Just got an email informing me that Hatsdirect are out of size 58 Feds, expecting more from Akubra in ???? :evil: :evil:
Scratch the Stetson idea.. I just got off the phone with them and it was going to be $85 all told after shipping. So, I'll make a decision out of the other possibilities.theinterchange wrote:The PB is at the top end of my budget. I'm halfway tempted to see if I can get one of the outlet Stetson Temples and play with bashing it inexpensively. Then later going for something more expensive.
Or I could be making a mistake doing that.... I might.
Join the club!theinterchange wrote:Funny since starting this thread I've moved on to wanting a Raiders fedora..
Actually, it has been theorized that the bridge scene hat was a Stetson. (If you dig around, you'll find talk how the ToD hat looked like a different hat in every scene.) Stetson had licensing rights with ToD and ended up having at least one hat placed in the movie. (Remember the Stetson Temple?) Also, when you look at Stetson Indy hat ads, that's the scene the ads usually reference.coronado3 wrote:APE !!! WHERE IS THE BRIDGE SCENE HAT!?!?!?!
For me, that one rivals the Raiders hats.... It must have been a HJ too.
In fact, it appears that hat was in most of the major scenes in the movie. His page doesn't say whether it was an HJ or a Stetson, but I believe his hat is a HJ, which means the cockpit hat was an HJ, if Desi is right. 
i don't think desi's is the suspension bridge hat. the hat that he was showcasing in that link matched up to the hat that indy had on when fighting mola ram once the bridge had been cut. these scenes were filmed on set.jasonalun wrote:Actually, Desi of ScreenUsed sold a TOD hat that was, as his photo research shows here (http://screenused.com/index.cfm?section ... ndyhat.cfm) pretty conclusively IMO, the bridge hat, and furthermore, and rather astounding to me, was also the same hat in the cockpit scene we all decry as the "bad" hat!
look again.......jasonalun wrote:What's different about them? I don't see any noticeable difference in the hat between the bridge cut scene and the Mola Ram fight scene.
If you look at a better photo of this http://screenused.com/index.cfm?section ... em_id=2557 (theRaider.net?), I think you will see the same detail on the ribbon that Desi points out in the other scenes.
I see what you are saying, but I think it's the same hat. Look at the left (his right) top edge of the hat ribbon in the bridge pic. You can see that ragged, "peeling out" effect that appears on Desi's hats' ribbon. I think the effect of a lower crown you are seeing is a combination of perspective (the Mola Ram fight the hat is tilted back slightly, shortening the crown a bit by perspective), and the center dent being smashed in a bit more than other scenes (see other shots from above and behind Indy in that Mola Ram scene- you can see the stoved-in top and back) which could also lower the front crown by a fractions of an inch. If you measure them both out accounting for perspective, there isn't much more than maybe a 1/4" difference in the front crown pinch height between the two, easily accounted for by the smashed-in center dent and/or the perspective difference.look at how much more crown you get with the bridge hat...nice and beefy like a raiders. there's is more height/volume in it....that should be a dead give-away. also, the brim is curled more on desi's whereas the bridge hat is pretty straight till the rear of the brim. typically a brim curl will also give the illusing that the brim is shorter, which is why the bridge hat looks more 'hooded' than the one used on the 'death of mola ram' set.
the differences are quite slight of course......if they weren't, they'd fire the continuity director.
this hat:jasonalun wrote:I see what you are saying, but I think it's the same hat. Look at the left (his right) top edge of the hat ribbon in the bridge pic. You can see that ragged, "peeling out" effect that appears on Desi's hats' ribbon. I think the effect of a lower crown you are seeing is a combination of perspective (the Mola Ram fight the hat is tilted back slightly, shortening the crown a bit by perspective), and the center dent being smashed in a bit more than other scenes (see other shots from above and behind Indy in that Mola Ram scene- you can see the stoved-in top and back) which could also lower the front crown by a fractions of an inch. If you measure them both out accounting for perspective, there isn't much more than maybe a 1/4" difference in the front crown pinch height between the two, easily accounted for by the smashed-in center dent and/or the perspective difference.look at how much more crown you get with the bridge hat...nice and beefy like a raiders. there's is more height/volume in it....that should be a dead give-away. also, the brim is curled more on desi's whereas the bridge hat is pretty straight till the rear of the brim. typically a brim curl will also give the illusing that the brim is shorter, which is why the bridge hat looks more 'hooded' than the one used on the 'death of mola ram' set.
the differences are quite slight of course......if they weren't, they'd fire the continuity director.
To me it just goes to show how different the exact same hat can look depending on the angle, lighting, conditions (hat bumps and crumples from set use) - I mean, I who would have thought that the dark, tapered-up looking hat seen in the cockpit scene is actually the same one in the Mola Ram fight scene? I never would have, had I not seen the cold, hard evidence Desi presented.
