Sliders

Discuss all of the intricacies of the jacket in full detail

Moderators: Indiana Jeff, Mike, Indydawg

User avatar
Kt Templar
Legendary Adventurer
Legendary Adventurer
Posts: 4715
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:32 am
Location: London.

Post by Kt Templar »

IndyMcFly wrote:Those are the flat black? I expected them to be a little.... flatter. But I like that more than I was thinking they'd be. Glad I didn't pick gloss... can't imagine how they'd look if that's supposed to be flat! :wink:

In Christ,
Shane

`It's so ... black!'' said Ford Prefect, ``you can hardly make out its shape ... light just seems to fall into it!''

The blackness of it was so extreme that it was almost impossible to tell how close you were standing to it.

``Come and feel the surface,'' he said in a hushed voice.

``See?'' said Zaphod, ``it's just totally frictionless."

Not much good for sliders heh? :)
User avatar
Ripper
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 948
Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2002 12:05 am
Location: Colorado

Post by Ripper »

Id say they are more of a satan black...I bought 4 myself.. 8)
GCR
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 637
Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2004 10:59 pm
Location: At the Indylounge

Post by GCR »

Indiana Ripper wrote:Id say they are more of a satan black...
I thought he was supposed to be red???

Just kidding...I went ahead and ordered 8 of them, I'm not taking any chances.

Dr. J, thanks for the find...and Gobler, thanks for the pics!

I'll finally be rid of the dreaded D-rings!

-GCR
User avatar
Ripper
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 948
Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2002 12:05 am
Location: Colorado

Post by Ripper »

SATIN....oops :oops: I cant spell to save my life.......
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44484
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

If you jab your finger while installing them, I'd say your original spelling would be fairly correct to the situation at hand..... :-k :wink:

Regards! Michaelson
WConly
Museum Curator
Museum Curator
Posts: 1715
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:20 am
Location: Topeka, Kansas

Post by WConly »

Michaelson wrote:If you jab your finger while installing them, I'd say your original spelling would be fairly correct to the situation at hand..... :-k :wink:

Regards! Michaelson
Now that is funny :lol: ! Good reply Mr. M.! W>
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44484
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Been there, done that.... :wink:

Regards! Michaelson
User avatar
Ripper
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 948
Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2002 12:05 am
Location: Colorado

Post by Ripper »

Kinda like when you are repairing a frayed cable or coax ? Ouch.
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44484
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Oh, that's SOP around this joint. :lol:

If you don't sacrifice some blood to the video gods, it won't work!! :wink:

Regards! Michaelson
User avatar
Ripper
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 948
Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2002 12:05 am
Location: Colorado

Post by Ripper »

Thanks for fixing that spelling error by the way. :wink: My brain is still at home sleeping, its a cloudy, kinda snowy day here.
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44484
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

What spelling error? 8-[

Regards! Michaelson
User avatar
Ripper
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 948
Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2002 12:05 am
Location: Colorado

Post by Ripper »

Just kind of an update....I guess..... I now have 6 sliders up for grabs, not the black ones,....still at the low ,low price of free with free shipping......let me know.
User avatar
Dr._J
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 953
Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2002 2:02 pm
Location: Arlington, VA

Post by Dr._J »

Dr. J, thanks for the find...and Gobler, thanks for the pics!
Glad to help. It's about time I contributed something to this forum! :wink:

The flat black loops do have a little sheen to them. I'd be curious to see what the charcoal gray ones look like? At that price, it'd be easy to do a comparison.

Regards, Dr. J
User avatar
Dr._J
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 953
Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2002 2:02 pm
Location: Arlington, VA

Post by Dr._J »

Just kind of an update....I guess..... I now have 6 sliders up for grabs, not the black ones,....still at the low ,low price of free with free shipping......let me know.
Geez, you can't GIVE these things away! :wink:
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44484
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Shoot, Rip, I'll take 4 of them off your hands. May try my hand and changing out the D rings on my cloth Wested. I have NEVER liked those on cloth, so the sliders might work out better.

PM on it's way with address.

Thank you!! :D

Regards! Michaelson
Last edited by Michaelson on Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Dr._J
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 953
Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2002 2:02 pm
Location: Arlington, VA

Post by Dr._J »

Shoot, Rip, I'll take 4 of them off your hands.
I stand corrected. Heck, you can always depend on good ol' Michaelson! :wink:

Regards, Dr. J
User avatar
Ripper
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 948
Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2002 12:05 am
Location: Colorado

Post by Ripper »

No problem Michaelson...Im here to help! :wink: .....Now if anyone would like two..........
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44484
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Heck, send those as well. I might mess two up in my efforts.... :oops: :roll: :wink:

Regards, and thank you!!

Michaelson
User avatar
Ripper
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 948
Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2002 12:05 am
Location: Colorado

Post by Ripper »

No problem...it is actualy easy to do and you should have no problem.........
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44484
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

I know. I already have the anvil, 16 pound sledge hammer and iron tongs waiting for their arrival. Shouldn't take me more than, say, 4 days to do the job. :D

Regards! Michaelson
User avatar
Ripper
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 948
Joined: Thu Jul 04, 2002 12:05 am
Location: Colorado

Post by Ripper »

Dont forget a forge and bellows to heat the metal
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44484
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Got that covered too. :D

Regards! Michaelson
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44484
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Got that covered too. :D

I can hear my wife now....

"Honey, the jacket looked great...until it burst into flames..... :-s" :lol:

Regards! Michaelson
User avatar
raider 57
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 528
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:34 pm
Location: Just rumours really,somewhere in Asia I think....

Post by raider 57 »

The replacement sliders are a Super discovery fellas!! That's one thing I never liked on my USW jacket. And such an easy swap, and cheap too. I just ordered a set of them. Thanks for the info!! raider 57
User avatar
JulianK
Archaeologist
Archaeologist
Posts: 373
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:54 am
Location: Gatineau (Ottawa Area), Canada

Post by JulianK »

Almost $30 to ship 8 bucks worth of sliders to Canada!?! Must be nice being American!! :(

So?? Any of you yanks wanna do a neighbor (even spelled it the American way) a favor???
...seriously though, if someone can pick me up a few (16 for 3 jackets) and send them to me via regular USPS, I'd gladly Paypal the funds to you.
User avatar
raider 57
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 528
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:34 pm
Location: Just rumours really,somewhere in Asia I think....

Post by raider 57 »

I just installed the new sliders on my USW jacket. A tip I figured out: Much easier to tape up the plier ends rather than the sliders themselves. Also, I used large needlenose pliers, and gripped with the smooth areas about halfway down. Fortunately I bought two extra sliders, cuz I scratched up the first attempt! Oh yea, Michealson,I found a cup of Cafe Verona helps too!! raider 57
crazylegsmurphy
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 864
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:43 am
Location: Victoria, Canada
Contact:

Post by crazylegsmurphy »

JulianK,

I am SURE that Canada is producing these kind of sliders. We may have kinda crappy movies, but I'm sure we have gotten to the point where we can figure out how to bend metal! :P:)

Lets take a look on the Interweb and see if we can't find something.
User avatar
Indiana G
Legendary Adventurer
Legendary Adventurer
Posts: 3918
Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:55 pm
Location: in the Temple of Insanity

Post by Indiana G »

CLM,

when i was shopping in canada for sliders/buckles, the manufacturers that i found were all out east (ontario).

there was not much choice in hardware that would work on a jacket. besides, the cost was $0.23 each.....not bad but you had to order a minimum of 1000 peices.....not good....not good at all.
crazylegsmurphy
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 864
Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:43 am
Location: Victoria, Canada
Contact:

Post by crazylegsmurphy »

IndyG...

I wonder if MEC, or Campers Village might have those. I remember seeing stuff like that.

If not, I am sure they have a catalogue where they can order some, and I am sure they would.
User avatar
Indiana G
Legendary Adventurer
Legendary Adventurer
Posts: 3918
Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:55 pm
Location: in the Temple of Insanity

Post by Indiana G »

IndyG...

I wonder if MEC, or Campers Village might have those. I remember seeing stuff like that.

If not, I am sure they have a catalogue where they can order some, and I am sure they would.
i haven't checked MEC yet but campers village has a 'textiles outfitters' inside of it. unfortunately those guys don't carry the right sliders....the ones they supply are more for webbing belts/straps.
User avatar
Rook
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 660
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:11 pm
Location: Northern Minnesota, USA
Contact:

Post by Rook »

I ordered a set of sliders today. After adding the flat black color they jumped to double the cost. And shipping was double that. :)

Total was about $6 for four sliders.

Russ
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44484
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Well, the way I look at it, it's a one time purchase and money well spent.

Keep the old D rings, and should you ever sell or trade the jacket, either make the new sliders a selling point, or replace the new sliders with the old D rings and put the rectangular sliders on your new jacket.

Regards! Michaelson
User avatar
Rook
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 660
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:11 pm
Location: Northern Minnesota, USA
Contact:

Post by Rook »

Or I can just buy a new set of sliders for $6. ;)

They went on easily enough. I probably should have bent them a different direction than I did, but they're on now and they aren't coming off.

Now I just have to lightly distress the jacket to stop looking showroom fresh. :)

Russ
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44484
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Rook wrote:Or I can just buy a new set of sliders for $6. ;)
Sure, YOU can, but I'd just as soon keep MY money in MY pocket, especially when I already have something taking up room in my drawer at home that could be easily used on the departing jacket. :lol: :wink:

Regards! Michaelson
User avatar
Rook
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 660
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:11 pm
Location: Northern Minnesota, USA
Contact:

Post by Rook »

Well, unless I happen upon a Wested sale for $10 each, this jacket will last me a few years. ;)

Darn kids these days, don't know how to save. :mrgreen:

Russ
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44484
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

:lol:

Yep, that extra $6 in the pocket could represent another can of coffee for the pantry shelf, don't cha know! :wink:

HIGH regards! Michaelson
User avatar
Dr._J
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 953
Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2002 2:02 pm
Location: Arlington, VA

Post by Dr._J »

_,

What finish were the loops from Wested? Thanks.

Dr. J
ANZAC_1915
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 864
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:11 pm
Location: Redmond, Washington, USA

Post by ANZAC_1915 »

My authentic seal brown jacket I just received from Peter came with rectangular sliders (and silver zip) as requested.

The sliders are a thinner diameter wire than the antiqued D-rings he uses (from memory), and the rectangular are silver/nickel/whatever, but not black. (I will post pics later)

What is the SA color for the sliders?

My order was 99% perfect, they forgot to add the 2nd interior pocket but I can live without it, the other stuff was more important. Actually the main interior pocket was bigger than I expected so I think I am fine with it.

I got leather facings too - I know not SA but just a preference of mine.
Dutch_jones
Museum Curator
Museum Curator
Posts: 1438
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:59 pm
Location: Holland
Contact:

Post by Dutch_jones »

ANZAC_1915 wrote:My authentic seal brown jacket I just received from Peter came with rectangular sliders (and silver zip) as requested.

The sliders are a thinner diameter wire than the antiqued D-rings he uses (from memory), and the rectangular are silver/nickel/whatever, but not black. (I will post pics later)

What is the SA color for the sliders?

My order was 99% perfect, they forgot to add the 2nd interior pocket but I can live without it, the other stuff was more important. Actually the main interior pocket was bigger than I expected so I think I am fine with it.

I got leather facings too - I know not SA but just a preference of mine.


;0 of your new jacket !
User avatar
JulianK
Archaeologist
Archaeologist
Posts: 373
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:54 am
Location: Gatineau (Ottawa Area), Canada

Post by JulianK »

when i was shopping in canada for sliders/buckles, the manufacturers that i found were all out east (ontario).
Hey, I'm close enough to Eastern Ontario. Do you per chance remember any manufacturer names??
Lets take a look on the Interweb and see if we can't find something.
Sounds like a plan Murph. Now that I'm back from vacation I'll definitely take a scour.
ANZAC_1915
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 864
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:11 pm
Location: Redmond, Washington, USA

Post by ANZAC_1915 »

Dutch_jones wrote: ;0 of your new jacket !
Yeah took some flash was a bit bright.
The rectangular sliders are nickel (in fact).

I have a problem with the jacket puffing out at the shoulder blades. I might need to drop in to see Peter when I'm in the UK in a couple of weeks.

I just had my wife wear it, it isn't a fit issue, more of a cut issue (unless of course this is normal).

Yes, I know, pics....
ANZAC_1915
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 864
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:11 pm
Location: Redmond, Washington, USA

Post by ANZAC_1915 »

Here are the recent Wested rectangular sliders. Somewhere between nickel and black chrome I guess

Image
Michigan Smith
Laboratory Technician
Laboratory Technician
Posts: 172
Joined: Tue Jul 02, 2002 9:17 am

Post by Michigan Smith »

Just ordered 12 of these in flat black myself.
IndianaChris711
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 821
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:51 am
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana

Post by IndianaChris711 »

I ordered some as well and I have not gotten them yet, ordered them like last week sometime and still no sliders. :-k I don't know, maybe I will give them a call. I ordered 15 of them just in case I break a few. If I don't get any sliders this week I think I am just going to get some free from Peter and pay the shipping.

IndianaChris
Michigan Smith
Laboratory Technician
Laboratory Technician
Posts: 172
Joined: Tue Jul 02, 2002 9:17 am

Post by Michigan Smith »

Yeah, I just realized this is a rather old thread resurrected. Hope the company is still in business and didn't just abandoned their website and leave it working. I used Paypal and it all went thru OK.
IndianaChris711
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 821
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:51 am
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana

Post by IndianaChris711 »

Michigan, I just got my sliders today so hopefully you will be getting your sliders soon. Just wanted to let you know that. They look really great just have to put them on my jacket which should not take to long once I find some tools.

IndianaChris
User avatar
Dr._J
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 953
Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2002 2:02 pm
Location: Arlington, VA

Post by Dr._J »

Is the strapworks website link still working? Good to know! I just put a pair of their rectangular loops on my Todd's Standard and it looks awesome!

Regards, Dr. J
IndianaChris711
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 821
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:51 am
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana

Post by IndianaChris711 »

Yes strapworks website is still working. :D I am having difficulty getting the rectangular ones to bend and I already pretty much ripped the black coating around one of them already. :roll: I may get some better tools tomorrow, I was using some pliers and some needle nose pliers to try to bend the metal some and used a cloth to try to not to take the coating off. I will try something else tomorrow see what works. Yes strapworks is still in business, luckily I ordered 15 of these metal loops. :wink:

EDIT-Well now I broke about five or six, I damaged about 6 more now I only have two left, I have one on the jacket. I don't think I am buying anymore of these rectangular buckles, even when I put a cloth over the slider the grooves in the pliers just eat right through it. It still damages the black coating, which can easily can be taken off. It has literally taken me hours and I only got one on. Peters D-rings came off easily, but dang the sliders from strapworks just can break with very little effort. I can't figure a way to bend the slider without damaging the black coating so much. I even tried taping some velcro to the pliers to soften the grooves and it worked for one. That was it. I give up on these sliders, I am calling Peter tomorrow and getting some black sliders from him. It is just not worth all the effort. My knuckles were turning white. :shock:


IndianaChris
Michigan Smith
Laboratory Technician
Laboratory Technician
Posts: 172
Joined: Tue Jul 02, 2002 9:17 am

Post by Michigan Smith »

Mine just showed up today, they look good, but I haven't worked with them yet. Hopefully I'll have better luck than IndianaChris711. Glad I ordered extras too!
Michigan Smith
Laboratory Technician
Laboratory Technician
Posts: 172
Joined: Tue Jul 02, 2002 9:17 am

Post by Michigan Smith »

Put mine new sliders on last night, no real problems encountered. None broke prying open, only slightly scratched one. World of difference in appearance and how securely the straps stay put now. Only tip I figured out for install was to use needle nose pliers (2 pair) with the tips padded with several wraps of duct tape (the product which can solve anything!) I started out with one pair of needle nose and one pair of regular pliers. The teeth on the regular pliers chewed thru the tape in no time. Needle nose generally have less agressive gripping teeth/surface, and worked much better for me. $10 well spent, IMHO. Plan on doing my USW next, and I bought 4 extra for any future jackets.
Post Reply