KOTCS Bag placement

IndyFrench · Post by **IndyFrench** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:58 am

I've searched to see if this has been brought up and I can't find it anywhere, but is anyone else mystified or annoyed by the fact that Indy wears his bag OUTSIDE his jacket in KOTCS??

It just looks sloppy and un-Indy...With three movies with it under the jacket, why'd they change it now???

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:07 am

Honestly?

Don't know.

Sometimes I think they do stuff like this just to spinn our little gearheads around and see how we react.

And with the gunbelt buckle reversed!?
No clue...

Regards,
Swindiana

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:37 am

And his pants on backwards, too!

Honestly, I think it makes much more sense to wear the bag on the outside of the jacket, so it doesn't bother me in the least. Besides, it's much more comfortable and way more practical, especially if you get caught on a tank gun!

WeeMadHamish · Post by **WeeMadHamish** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:12 am

IndyFrench wrote:I've searched to see if this has been brought up and I can't find it anywhere, but is anyone else mystified or annoyed by the fact that Indy wears his bag OUTSIDE his jacket in KOTCS??

Nope.

It's fairly certain that the bag strap worn under the jacket was meant to emulate the bandoleer worn in the original character design (though why they didn't just use an actual bandoleer is beyond me... it might've helped keep his gunbelt from drooping around his hips.)

But from a practical standpoint, it really is nonsense, isn't it? I mean, how many of us who carry laptop bags or whatever put them on under our jackets? Wouldn't that just look silly?

IndyFrench · Post by **IndyFrench** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:21 am

Anyone also notice in the latest photo of the temple thing that Indy doesn't have his gunbelt on....

Bullitt · Post by **Bullitt** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:05 am

IndyFrench wrote:Anyone also notice in the latest photo of the temple thing that Indy doesn't have his gunbelt on....

It was speculated in another thread that Indy is being held at gunpoint here. If this is indeed true, then it is not so strange he is seen not wearing his gunbelt or gun for that matter.

Panama Tom Jr. · Post by **Panama Tom Jr.** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:10 am

I'm not sure about that theory because if he were at gunpoint he would be completely unarmed - and you can clearly see he's wearing his whip...

ANZAC_1915 · Post by **ANZAC_1915** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:33 am

Per prior posts on this, it took him 22 years to figure out the bag was more accessible outside his jacket!!!!

Bullitt · Post by **Bullitt** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:43 am

Panama Tom Jr. wrote:I'm not sure about that theory because if he were at gunpoint he would be completely unarmed - and you can clearly see he's wearing his whip...

You're absolutely right. Personally, I don't think this theory is true either, because I think the fifth pair of legs belong to someone else

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:46 am

As far as wearing the bag under the jacket being unpractical, I have to disagree. I always wear my strap under my jacket when I am on a motorcycle so it doesn't fall down and get caught under my bike pulling me down with it. I have seen things like this happen to other motor cyclists.. If I'm wandering about I will wear it over...any riding and it goes under.

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:47 am

I don't know about this. If you wear the bag under the jacket. It's easyer to take on and of the jacket at place were the temp. has big changes ( night /day). He has the jacket on and doesn't want to anymore. he takes it of and put it in the bag ( same with the reverse).
I like it better under the jacket so as not to mess up the jacket. If I do use the bag it's mostly under for the long haul and if I'm just wearing it for a short time over.

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:52 am

I was saying that I prefer the bag under the jacket -- it's safer for riding on a motorcycle.

Snakewhip_Sable · Post by **Snakewhip_Sable** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:44 pm

It's also safer to drive a car with the bag belt under the jacket because it can't slide off and bind your arm during a turn. Learned that the hard way. Also, if it's hot and you need to remove your jacket, you don't have to fuss with taking the bag off then putting it back on. Thieves will have a harder time slashing the strap and swiping it. So much more practical under the jacket.

ANZAC_1915 · Post by **ANZAC_1915** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:33 pm

No no, unless you have Michael Khan to help you, the bag under the jacket is worse because the bag strap will get caught on the side gun of the WWI tank as you are trying to climb up onto the tank.

Darth Indiana · Post by **Darth Indiana** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:09 pm

I suspect being strung up on a tank gun in LC was a factor in the new arrangement.

Though Swindiana's theory appeals to my paranoid side.

Snakewhip_Sable · Post by **Snakewhip_Sable** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:14 pm

In real life, if that bag were worn under the jacket, it never would've hung up on that tank - were it on the outside... entirely possible.

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:32 pm

Snakewhip_Sable wrote:In real life, if that bag were worn under the jacket, it never would've hung up on that tank - were it on the outside... entirely possible.

Actually, it happened to me once. Except the tank gun was banister. But no less dangerous, I assure you!

Even so, if you're willing to believe that the strap or the bag itself didn't snap during that scene, then why can't we believe that it gun hung-up in the first place?

My theory is that the bag on the outside is established that way for something in a late action scene. That's why I would do it, anyway.

IndyFrench · Post by **IndyFrench** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:56 pm

Well, for one thing, he clearly doesn't fall over the tip of the tank cannon barrel, which is splayed and busted anyway - hence there is no way the bag strap could have looped around the end of the cannon to begin with and therefore no way Indy could have gotten caught up in it - unless of course the bag strap has the ability to phase through matter which it does...both ways! Once to get on the cannon and once to get off the cannon.

Risu · Post by **Risu** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:53 am

Just think how much grief they could have saved us if Indy had just pulled the strap over the barrel and held the loop on the opposite side.

Blue Jay · Post by **Blue Jay** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:18 pm

It always made me wonder that he wasnt wearing his gun belt in that pic, but the whip was attached to his normal trouser belt which is kind of weird.
I first noticed that during the comic con vid.

GoldenHistorian · Post by **GoldenHistorian** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:33 pm

Risu wrote:Just think how much grief they could have saved us if Indy had just pulled the strap over the barrel and held the loop on the opposite side.

but then he wouldt be trapped for the almost being squashed in the rock part would he.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:39 am

It is clear that his intention is to be able to reach the contents of the bag rather than facilitating himself in putting on or off the bag. And from an aesthetic point of view the custume guys did well to assume that the bag strap doesn't look good on top of his jacket. (He is not supposed to carry your laptop).

But that still doesn't explain why he wears his webbelt the other way around....

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