Authentic lamb or pre-distressed cow hide?

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Authentic lamb or pre-distressed cow hide?

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This is only my second post but have been lurking around for some time now.
I'm going to order my first Wested soon, I have been reading alot about the different types of hides. I know that the autentic lamb is SA but I like how the pre-distressed cow hide looks. I was wondering if I could get an opinion on the cow vs. the lamb and is it worth it to get the lamb and distress it your self.
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Depends on how you plan on 'using' the jacket.

If you're looking for strong leather right out of the box, go cowhide. If you're looking for a good jacket for 'urban adventure', either one will work perfectly.

If you're wanting pre-distressed, I'd just go with the pre-distressed cowhide and be done with it. :wink:

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Well what climate do you live in? If it's cold, go cow, if warm, then lamb. Also the type of environment should be a factor as well - lamb isn't noted for being really resilient (that's why they chose it for the film - it would be easy to distress) so if you're expecting to be outdoors a lot, cow is the better choice.

If I had to choose though, I'd forgo both of them in favor of goat. Tough as nails, and quite nice looking too. :junior: -IJ
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There are pictures of both in this thread: http://indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?t=24907
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Post by Nobody »

Thanks guys for the feedback.
I live in Southern California, so it doesnt get too cold here. Does Wested still offer goat?
I saw your post RockBottom, That's what made me interested in the pre-distressed cow hide
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Nobody wrote:Thanks guys for the feedback.
I live in Southern California, so it doesnt get too cold here. Does Wested still offer goat?
I saw your post RockBottom, That's what made me interested in the pre-distressed cow hide
To tell you the truth, I find the hide Wested not quite as warm as my lamb US Wings A2. Even though the hide is thicker, I think having open sleeves and bottom makes a big difference.
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Agreed. RockBottom's post really made me think about the predistressed cow. I never though I would go for it but it sure looks nice.

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Is the novapelle and the pre-distressed cow hide on the web site one in the same?

RockBottom what size did you order and what size do usually wear?
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Nobody wrote:Is the novapelle and the pre-distressed cow hide on the web site one in the same?

RockBottom what size did you order and what size do usually wear?
It seemed pretty true to size to me. I normally wear a 48 suit jacket and have the sleeves taken up. Same with this thing.
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Nobody wrote:Is the novapelle and the pre-distressed cow hide on the web site one in the same?
The predistressed cow is slightly lighter and more yellowy/brown in colour and more distressed. The novapelle is only lightly distressed and darker.

Rockbottom's jacket is a novapelle.
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The novapelle does not seem to be an option on the site. Did you call to drder that jacket? Is that a standard off the rack hide?
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Nobody wrote:The novapelle does not seem to be an option on the site. Did you call to drder that jacket? Is that a standard off the rack hide?
Me? I just selected "predistressed hide" from the pull down menu.

Of course, to an American, the word "hide" can mean the skin of anything so for all I know, it's made from Bulgarian beggars.

You probably know this, but you can get to leather samples by going to http://www.indyjacket.co.uk/home.html, selecting the "sizing" link then the link entitled "click here to view samples."
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Nobody wrote:The novapelle does not seem to be an option on the site. Did you call to drder that jacket? Is that a standard off the rack hide?
Pretty sure they'd only do that on a custom. I'd put Novapelle in the "extras" box.

From what RB said they might be using that in preference to the old predistressed, but I wouldn't risk the ambiguity.
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How would you rate the novapelle compared to standard wested cowhide jackets in terms of weight?

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coronado3 wrote:KT

How would you rate the novapelle compared to standard wested cowhide jackets in terms of weight?

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It's quite a bit lighter, (Guess 25%?)
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And how would the novapelle compare to horse or goat in weight?

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coronado3 wrote:And how would the novapelle compare to horse or goat in weight?

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Slightly lighter than both. More body than horse, less dense though.
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Last question, I promise! I am really leaning toward Novapelle for a new jacket: Do you know if Novapelle costs extra????

Thanks!!!!!
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coronado3 wrote:KT
Last question, I promise! I am really leaning toward Novapelle for a new jacket: Do you know if Novapelle costs extra????

Thanks!!!!!
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:) NP.

Not that i know of.
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Being in So Cal also, I find the SA lamb to be perfect. It's easy to distress and is the right weight for our climate. If I lived back in Chicago I might have a different opinion.
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Wested still offer goat?
They just started offering it again. Peter's going to make the announcement tomorrow.

viewtopic.php?t=25691

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