The mos PERFECT jacket (for me)!!!
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The mos PERFECT jacket (for me)!!!
Hi gang,
I can finally announce that the jacket of my dreams has become reality and is now mine
When I saw the horsehide jacket of my buddy Jens during the last European summit at Peter's place, I knew I had to have one. So I talked to Peter to see if he could make one to my specs. (i.e. smaller pockets than standard, different inner pocket facing and all the other funny things I can come up with). Peter aggreed and I went back to Germany after a great summit again.
Fast forward some months and I found a small plastic bag in front of my door when I came home (I was quite surprised to see that I was supposed to have signed for the parcel on the internet the very next day, simply because I never did...) and I tore it open.
First impression: boy this is heavy. Almost like wearing an armor. Later I compared to my Wested goatskin instead of my Barbour wax cotton jacket and compared to that, it's not THAT heavy, but you won't forget that you're wearing it though
Second impression: man that thing is stiff!!! Again: compared to the Barbour wax cotton jacket - which makes everything seems rather stiff. Compared to my goatskin, it was still stiff, but it has losened up considerable since (I've had it for two weeks now) and I think in 2-3 years it'll drape really nicely I know that to some this would be completely out of range, but going by my preferences of "what would a guy like Indy - if he had existed - chose for his adventures?" - rather than the thought of a replica of a costume, this is EXACTLY what I want. If you should ever feel the need to be drugged behind a truck, this would be the jacket to chose.
I'm extremely pleased to see that Peter nailed all the details asked for and that I can put this quest to rest without going through the trouble to make it myself ;D
Here are the pictures:
and of course the standard pictures of the jacket worn:
Thank you SO much for this truly wonderfull jacket Peter!!!
HIGH regards,
Marc
I can finally announce that the jacket of my dreams has become reality and is now mine
When I saw the horsehide jacket of my buddy Jens during the last European summit at Peter's place, I knew I had to have one. So I talked to Peter to see if he could make one to my specs. (i.e. smaller pockets than standard, different inner pocket facing and all the other funny things I can come up with). Peter aggreed and I went back to Germany after a great summit again.
Fast forward some months and I found a small plastic bag in front of my door when I came home (I was quite surprised to see that I was supposed to have signed for the parcel on the internet the very next day, simply because I never did...) and I tore it open.
First impression: boy this is heavy. Almost like wearing an armor. Later I compared to my Wested goatskin instead of my Barbour wax cotton jacket and compared to that, it's not THAT heavy, but you won't forget that you're wearing it though
Second impression: man that thing is stiff!!! Again: compared to the Barbour wax cotton jacket - which makes everything seems rather stiff. Compared to my goatskin, it was still stiff, but it has losened up considerable since (I've had it for two weeks now) and I think in 2-3 years it'll drape really nicely I know that to some this would be completely out of range, but going by my preferences of "what would a guy like Indy - if he had existed - chose for his adventures?" - rather than the thought of a replica of a costume, this is EXACTLY what I want. If you should ever feel the need to be drugged behind a truck, this would be the jacket to chose.
I'm extremely pleased to see that Peter nailed all the details asked for and that I can put this quest to rest without going through the trouble to make it myself ;D
Here are the pictures:
and of course the standard pictures of the jacket worn:
Thank you SO much for this truly wonderfull jacket Peter!!!
HIGH regards,
Marc
Last edited by Marc on Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Perfect!
Perfect!
It really is perfect even in fit. Would I be correct to assume this is a Raiders fit?
There is just something about a Wested! I'm due for a new one soon if I can't reduce the amount of distressing I've accumulated.
Because I wear it with a shirt tie and AB, I need it to look dressier at times.
I really should have got one for work, and one for the bush.
As for stiffness, I think Michaelson has a trick for softening it up in a dryer.
"With no heat" I think he put his in a pillow case and put it in for some time on tumble.
Now that's just what I remember but I'd check with him just in case. My memory can be sketchy at times eh! Sorry...
Cheers
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It really is perfect even in fit. Would I be correct to assume this is a Raiders fit?
There is just something about a Wested! I'm due for a new one soon if I can't reduce the amount of distressing I've accumulated.
Because I wear it with a shirt tie and AB, I need it to look dressier at times.
I really should have got one for work, and one for the bush.
As for stiffness, I think Michaelson has a trick for softening it up in a dryer.
"With no heat" I think he put his in a pillow case and put it in for some time on tumble.
Now that's just what I remember but I'd check with him just in case. My memory can be sketchy at times eh! Sorry...
Cheers
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marc, that's one of the best fitting wested's i've seen bar none. congrats
one thing i did notice though is that peter placed the arm seam above the yoke seam. typically i've seen them dead even with this seam for some of their regular fit jackets and of course below the seam for 80's cut......was this something you requested?
regardless the fit is spot on.
one thing i did notice though is that peter placed the arm seam above the yoke seam. typically i've seen them dead even with this seam for some of their regular fit jackets and of course below the seam for 80's cut......was this something you requested?
regardless the fit is spot on.
Thanks for the kind feedback guys It's nice to see how other gearheads share my joy over this jacket!
Regards,
Marc
I gave Peter a pattern for the pockets incl. the distance to the hem.Those pocket flaps are the best example I have seen! Are those a specific detail you asked for? They appear to be patterned on PLATON's pocket specs...
Yes, absolutely. All my gear is Raiders, so the same with the jacket.It really is perfect even in fit. Would I be correct to assume this is a Raiders fit?
I requested the seams being even, but I'm not gonna send it back because of thatone thing i did notice though is that peter placed the arm seam above the yoke seam. typically i've seen them dead even with this seam for some of their regular fit jackets and of course below the seam for 80's cut......was this something you requested?
Regards,
Marc
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It's quite smooth. If you look at the picture of the underarm gusset, it'll give you a good idea of the texture.Is the HH smooth like the lamb or grainy?
Can you provide a scan of the leather?
It's been some days, but I've told Peter that I'm not in a hurry and I truly wasn't. Besides: THAT jacket is worth QUITE a wait IMO.Marc been following that from it's inception way back at the eurosummit.
I'll most probably exchange the D-rings with some square ones sooner or later. But since they're black it doesn't bother me as much as the brass ones would do.
Regards,
Marc
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After the TREMENDOUES response on that jacket, I called up Peter yesterday, to discuss how to handle this the best. We agreed that posting 4 pages of specs. wouldn't help any, as some would simply copy and paste this, without even knowing what exactly they're ordering (no pun intended, but just yesterday I mentioned a few changes to a fellow fans and he didn't understand beans of what I was saying).
So I offered Peter to send HIM the specs. again together with the patterns of the pockets etc. He agreed and I'm not sure if he wants to modify his patterns in general or if he wants to offer a "Marc's specs." jacket or whatever, but at least you should then have the possibility to order one just alike.
Nick, I cannot comment for the other hides. A horsehide jacket however has CERTAINLY enough "body" to keep the zip from grapping the liner by itself.
Oh! Another thing yet. The fit that I ordered is "for shirts only". If I'd want to wear a pullover underneath, it wouldn't fly. This add a little to the "80's cut fit" IMO.
Regards,
Marc
So I offered Peter to send HIM the specs. again together with the patterns of the pockets etc. He agreed and I'm not sure if he wants to modify his patterns in general or if he wants to offer a "Marc's specs." jacket or whatever, but at least you should then have the possibility to order one just alike.
I'd wait until Peter announce that it's a go. I haven't scrapped all the specs. together yet and I need to make a new pocket pattern.sigh have to save up now.
Nick, I cannot comment for the other hides. A horsehide jacket however has CERTAINLY enough "body" to keep the zip from grapping the liner by itself.
Oh! Another thing yet. The fit that I ordered is "for shirts only". If I'd want to wear a pullover underneath, it wouldn't fly. This add a little to the "80's cut fit" IMO.
Regards,
Marc
Thanks Marc,
Can you please let me know
1. what size is your jacket
2. what is the measurement of the sleeve at the elbow
3. what is the measurement of the cuff opening (i.e. what the end of sleeve measures 'across' with the sleeve laying flat with the end stretching out the cuff)
Thanks and regards,
Platon
Can you please let me know
1. what size is your jacket
2. what is the measurement of the sleeve at the elbow
3. what is the measurement of the cuff opening (i.e. what the end of sleeve measures 'across' with the sleeve laying flat with the end stretching out the cuff)
Thanks and regards,
Platon
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Last night I measured the sleeve of my standard 40R and it measures 19cm at the elbow and 14cm at the cuff opening.No problem:
These measurements were taken from Peter:
Chest: 40“, Waist: 36“, Sleeve: 25“, Neck to shoulder: 7“, Back length: 25“, Neck: 16“
Measuring "flat" the sleeve is 19.4cm at the elbow (7.638") and 13.1cm in the cuff opening (5.157").
Regards,
Marc
So, if yours is 'tapered' means that it's tapered from the elbow and down? Because my idea of SA sleeve is a narrower sleeve without the excess leather around the elbow. Welcome your comments.
Also, I notice that the sleeve of your jacket measures the same as the back i.e. 25 inches.
This is how your jacket compares to the standard
Standard Marc's
Sleeve 24.25 25
Back 25 25
So what you actually did was order 0.75 inch longer sleeve.
Yet, in the photo below
judging from your right arm, it seems to me that your sleeve is short (or that you have long arms). In my standard jacket the sleeves appear longer and the distance from end of cuff to bottom of jacket is 2.36 inches and seems a lot less to the eye than what I see in your above photo.
What's your distance there?
I mean, look at the distance between end of sleeve end of jacket here
The color of your jacket is great by the way.
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Well, comparing the two, keep in mind that the Wings VIP is physically a very heavy weight jacket. Key word, 'heavy'. I have one, and love it, but it's a one season jacket for me.It's the perfect winter cold weather storm jacket.
The Wested HH jacket, on the other hand will be stronger due to the fact it is horsehide, but physically lighter in felt weight.
Just depends on what you're needing your jacket to do.
Regards! Michaelson
The Wested HH jacket, on the other hand will be stronger due to the fact it is horsehide, but physically lighter in felt weight.
Just depends on what you're needing your jacket to do.
Regards! Michaelson
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Look good, be tough, and last a long time.Michaelson wrote:Well, comparing the two, keep in mind that the Wings VIP is physically a very heavy weight jacket. Key word, 'heavy'. I have one, and love it, but it's a one season jacket for me.It's the perfect winter cold weather storm jacket.
The Wested HH jacket, on the other hand will be stronger due to the fact it is horsehide, but physically lighter in felt weight.
Just depends on what you're needing your jacket to do.
Regards! Michaelson
I guess I'm used to heavier cow hide jackets due to the ones I've owned in the past. Maybe I'm a little afraid of lighter hides like lamb or goat because I don't really have any 'wear experience' with them. I do know I'd like something to last me through the two jacket seasons up here (Mid September to mid December and March through mid May) and will keep a blast of North wind off when that comes around but not nessisarily a 'coat weight' jacket like my old Minneapolis Police jacket. I don't know, is that asking too much?
I wish there was a sample ring, like one would choose paint or wall paper samples, with all the leather types and fabric types from the various vendors that could be checked out or passed around so one could feel the differences with thier own fingers. Actually in typing this I wonder if Wilson's has something like that already in their mall stores. Just so I could get an idea.
Also, I wonder if and when someone like Minnesota Jones switches from Indy jacket to coat in the winter up here? I guess I could email him and ask, I wonder if he would remember me from ROTLA the Adaptation last year?
(sigh) Decisions decisions.
I do need to raise the cash first though.