The mos PERFECT jacket (for me)!!!

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:29 am

Hi gang,

I can finally announce that the jacket of my dreams has become reality and is now mine

When I saw the horsehide jacket of my buddy Jens during the last European summit at Peter's place, I knew I had to have one. So I talked to Peter to see if he could make one to my specs. (i.e. smaller pockets than standard, different inner pocket facing and all the other funny things I can come up with). Peter aggreed and I went back to Germany after a great summit again.

Fast forward some months and I found a small plastic bag in front of my door when I came home (I was quite surprised to see that I was supposed to have signed for the parcel on the internet the very next day, simply because I never did...) and I tore it open.

First impression: boy this is heavy. Almost like wearing an armor. Later I compared to my Wested goatskin instead of my Barbour wax cotton jacket and compared to that, it's not THAT heavy, but you won't forget that you're wearing it though

Second impression: man that thing is stiff!!! Again: compared to the Barbour wax cotton jacket - which makes everything seems rather stiff. Compared to my goatskin, it was still stiff, but it has losened up considerable since (I've had it for two weeks now) and I think in 2-3 years it'll drape really nicely

I know that to some this would be completely out of range, but going by my preferences of "what would a guy like Indy - if he had existed - chose for his adventures?" - rather than the thought of a replica of a costume, this is EXACTLY what I want. If you should ever feel the need to be drugged behind a truck, this would be the jacket to chose.

I'm extremely pleased to see that Peter nailed all the details asked for and that I can put this quest to rest without going through the trouble to make it myself ;D

Here are the pictures:

and of course the standard pictures of the jacket worn:

Thank you SO much for this truly wonderfull jacket Peter!!!

HIGH regards,

Marc

Indiana Max · Post by **Indiana Max** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:00 am

WOW

That is a very beautiful jacket Marc

I think I´ll ask you some time for the special patterns etc. to get such a nice Wested as well

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:07 am

Marc

WOW! Those pocket flaps are the best example I have seen! Are those a specific detail you asked for? They appear to be patterned on PLATON's pocket specs...

Very nice! I think I am going to have to break down and order a HH wested, too!

C3

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:19 am

Thats absolutely an awesome looking jacket Marc, congrats! And I agree those pockets are the best, that's how I want mine to look. These HH Indy's will definately be some of the best looking jackets when they get good and old.

Doug C

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:42 am

Very nice jacket Marc...I have to get off my ..... and order one like that. I've been debating it for a long time....I can't wait any longer.

Kilgour Trout · Post by **Kilgour Trout** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:47 am

Perfect!

It really is perfect even in fit. Would I be correct to assume this is a Raiders fit?

There is just something about a Wested! I'm due for a new one soon if I can't reduce the amount of distressing I've accumulated.
Because I wear it with a shirt tie and AB, I need it to look dressier at times.
I really should have got one for work, and one for the bush.

As for stiffness, I think Michaelson has a trick for softening it up in a dryer.
"With no heat" I think he put his in a pillow case and put it in for some time on tumble.

Now that's just what I remember but I'd check with him just in case. My memory can be sketchy at times eh! Sorry...

Cheers
Kilgour Trout

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:12 pm

Actually, that's _'s trick, and works wonders with a stiff jacket.

It's been done successfully with stiff cowhide, goatskin AND horsehide.

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:13 pm

marc, that's one of the best fitting wested's i've seen bar none. congrats

one thing i did notice though is that peter placed the arm seam above the yoke seam. typically i've seen them dead even with this seam for some of their regular fit jackets and of course below the seam for 80's cut......was this something you requested?

regardless the fit is spot on.

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:43 am

Thanks for the kind feedback guys

It's nice to see how other gearheads share my joy over this jacket!

Those pocket flaps are the best example I have seen! Are those a specific detail you asked for? They appear to be patterned on PLATON's pocket specs...

I gave Peter a pattern for the pockets incl. the distance to the hem.

It really is perfect even in fit. Would I be correct to assume this is a Raiders fit?

Yes, absolutely. All my gear is Raiders, so the same with the jacket.

one thing i did notice though is that peter placed the arm seam above the yoke seam. typically i've seen them dead even with this seam for some of their regular fit jackets and of course below the seam for 80's cut......was this something you requested?

I requested the seams being even, but I'm not gonna send it back because of that

Regards,

Marc

JEEP · Post by **JEEP** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:35 am

Nice jacket there buddy

:tup:

Can't wait to see it close-up.

Regards.

Jakob

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:41 am

Congrats Marc,
Is the HH smooth like the lamb or grainy?
Can you provide a scan of the leather?

brgds,
PLATON

Ace · Post by **Ace** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:16 am

Cool new jacket there Marc.
We need to test it behind a real truck ASAP

but I guess you're right....It will stand the beatings.

Regards
Ace

Niob · Post by **Niob** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:37 am

Fantastic lookin Wested Marc. I think i have to order a HH from Wested, too.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:17 am

Marc been following that from it's inception way back at the eurosummit. Nice proportions and fab leather. That horse has got a bit of heft to it, eh?

Enjoy! Those pocket flaps are already picking up some nice creases.

Satipo · Post by **Satipo** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:46 am

Very nice! You gonna keep the D-rings?

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:52 am

Is the HH smooth like the lamb or grainy?
Can you provide a scan of the leather?

It's quite smooth. If you look at the picture of the underarm gusset, it'll give you a good idea of the texture.

Marc been following that from it's inception way back at the eurosummit.

It's been some days, but I've told Peter that I'm not in a hurry and I truly wasn't. Besides: THAT jacket is worth QUITE a wait IMO.

I'll most probably exchange the D-rings with some square ones sooner or later. But since they're black it doesn't bother me as much as the brass ones would do.

Regards,

Marc

Mac · Post by **Mac** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:26 pm

Horsehide! The grainy texture is gorgeous.

Wow, it looks heavy.

I think that lends a vintage look that thinner, lighter jackets just can’t. It brings to mind a quality A2 repro.

Congratulations!

- Mac

K on the run · Post by **K on the run** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:42 pm

Hmmm. I'm not sure I like this jacket at all.
You see if I admitted that I liked it I WOULD HAVE TO GET ONE ALSO!

now I did it, sigh have to save up now.

Congrats my friend, looks just as great as when I saw it for 30 secs. on Vejle railroad station.

Best regards,
Kim

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:02 pm

Marc I'm taking the plunge based on your post

It looks too good - I've already posted Gemma that it's a go. I'll definitely be posting when it arrives....

whiskyman · Post by **whiskyman** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:25 pm

Yeah - HH Wested wearers of the world unite!

Congrats on the jacket Marc!! Glad everything went smoothly with your order. I see you also went for the no-leather-facings. I think this is a big factor in drape.

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:59 am

After the TREMENDOUES response on that jacket, I called up Peter yesterday, to discuss how to handle this the best. We agreed that posting 4 pages of specs. wouldn't help any, as some would simply copy and paste this, without even knowing what exactly they're ordering (no pun intended, but just yesterday I mentioned a few changes to a fellow fans and he didn't understand beans of what I was saying).

So I offered Peter to send HIM the specs. again together with the patterns of the pockets etc. He agreed and I'm not sure if he wants to modify his patterns in general or if he wants to offer a "Marc's specs." jacket or whatever, but at least you should then have the possibility to order one just alike.

sigh have to save up now.

I'd wait until Peter announce that it's a go. I haven't scrapped all the specs. together yet and I need to make a new pocket pattern.

Nick, I cannot comment for the other hides. A horsehide jacket however has CERTAINLY enough "body" to keep the zip from grapping the liner by itself.

Oh! Another thing yet. The fit that I ordered is "for shirts only". If I'd want to wear a pullover underneath, it wouldn't fly. This add a little to the "80's cut fit" IMO.

Regards,

Marc

Satipo · Post by **Satipo** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:49 am

Although the HH looks great, I'd love to see a lambskin with these specs.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:49 pm

Hey Marc,

Did you ask any mods on the sleeves? or are they standard?

Thanks,
Platon

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:20 am

They are a little narrower than on my last Wested and the opening for the sleeves on the jacket are a bit higher. That - combined with the underarm gussets - prevent the jacket from doing any "squirl effects".

Regards,

Marc

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:58 am

Thanks Marc,

Can you please let me know

1. what size is your jacket
2. what is the measurement of the sleeve at the elbow
3. what is the measurement of the cuff opening (i.e. what the end of sleeve measures 'across' with the sleeve laying flat with the end stretching out the cuff)

Thanks and regards,
Platon

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:26 am

No problem:

These measurements were taken from Peter:

Chest: 40“, Waist: 36“, Sleeve: 25“, Neck to shoulder: 7“, Back length: 25“, Neck: 16“

Measuring "flat" the sleeve is 19.4cm at the elbow (7.638") and 13.1cm in the cuff opening (5.157").

Regards,

Marc

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:58 am

That's interesting Marc - In Gemma's email to me she states it would be no problem doing a jacket like yours....maybe I should call and talk to Peter directly to make sure they know what I'm talking about.

Andymac84 · Post by **Andymac84** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:51 pm

Yeah

looks really good Marc!I like the color very much.Mine is an similar one.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:39 am

No problem:

These measurements were taken from Peter:

Chest: 40“, Waist: 36“, Sleeve: 25“, Neck to shoulder: 7“, Back length: 25“, Neck: 16“

Measuring "flat" the sleeve is 19.4cm at the elbow (7.638") and 13.1cm in the cuff opening (5.157").

Regards,

Marc

Last night I measured the sleeve of my standard 40R and it measures 19cm at the elbow and 14cm at the cuff opening.

So, if yours is 'tapered' means that it's tapered from the elbow and down? Because my idea of SA sleeve is a narrower sleeve without the excess leather around the elbow. Welcome your comments.

Also, I notice that the sleeve of your jacket measures the same as the back i.e. 25 inches.

This is how your jacket compares to the standard

Standard Marc's
Sleeve 24.25 25
Back 25 25

So what you actually did was order 0.75 inch longer sleeve.

Yet, in the photo below

judging from your right arm, it seems to me that your sleeve is short (or that you have long arms). In my standard jacket the sleeves appear longer and the distance from end of cuff to bottom of jacket is 2.36 inches and seems a lot less to the eye than what I see in your above photo.

What's your distance there?

I mean, look at the distance between end of sleeve end of jacket here

The color of your jacket is great by the way.

Travner Ravenweird · Post by **Travner Ravenweird** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:23 pm

Dang it! I think that's the jacket I want! I'm torn between this one and the US wings VIP
I gotta sell some of my junk......

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:13 pm

Well, comparing the two, keep in mind that the Wings VIP is physically a very heavy weight jacket. Key word, 'heavy'. I have one, and love it, but it's a one season jacket for me.It's the perfect winter cold weather storm jacket.

The Wested HH jacket, on the other hand will be stronger due to the fact it is horsehide, but physically lighter in felt weight.

Just depends on what you're needing your jacket to do.

Regards! Michaelson

Travner Ravenweird · Post by **Travner Ravenweird** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:18 pm

Michaelson wrote:Well, comparing the two, keep in mind that the Wings VIP is physically a very heavy weight jacket. Key word, 'heavy'. I have one, and love it, but it's a one season jacket for me.It's the perfect winter cold weather storm jacket.

The Wested HH jacket, on the other hand will be stronger due to the fact it is horsehide, but physically lighter in felt weight.

Just depends on what you're needing your jacket to do.

Regards! Michaelson

Look good, be tough, and last a long time.
I guess I'm used to heavier cow hide jackets due to the ones I've owned in the past. Maybe I'm a little afraid of lighter hides like lamb or goat because I don't really have any 'wear experience' with them. I do know I'd like something to last me through the two jacket seasons up here (Mid September to mid December and March through mid May) and will keep a blast of North wind off when that comes around but not nessisarily a 'coat weight' jacket like my old Minneapolis Police jacket. I don't know, is that asking too much?

I wish there was a sample ring, like one would choose paint or wall paper samples, with all the leather types and fabric types from the various vendors that could be checked out or passed around so one could feel the differences with thier own fingers. Actually in typing this I wonder if Wilson's has something like that already in their mall stores. Just so I could get an idea.
Also, I wonder if and when someone like Minnesota Jones switches from Indy jacket to coat in the winter up here? I guess I could email him and ask, I wonder if he would remember me from ROTLA the Adaptation last year?
(sigh) Decisions decisions.
I do need to raise the cash first though.

Philipp · Post by **Philipp** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:38 am

Hi, does anyone know if it is indeed possible to order a "Marc's specs" at Wested or not?

Does Wested accept custom orders (beyond their order form) again?