Recieved my Todd's Standard Lambskin Indiana Jones Jacket...

Dr.Seuss · Post by **Dr.Seuss** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:39 pm

A.C. do I detect a note of marketplace "smugness" in your jacket jubilance?

However, apparently the Federation market is targeted for the long in length.

Sincerely,

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:52 pm

Mine is starting to wrinkle and really get some character to it as well.

I got a little dirt on it yesterday as a test and it just wiped right off without a problem so I probably will dust it up a bit for Halloween. I probably won't go overboard with it like I did my Wested. Like AC said the jacket really doesn't need any "help" it looks the part even without the dirt.

Even out of the box I never thought this jacket was to "glossy" and now that I've worn it around a few days it really has this nice soft dull brown look to it.....

Heck, I'd buy another one.

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:08 pm

I agree with AC, too; the finish of this leather looks great and seems to have a very slight aged effect right from the beginning that doesn't require any additional distressing. I'm hoping the taller guys will have a version to purchase soon... this jacket is in a class by itself in terms of SA, and would be at any price.

Jack

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:04 am

all right!!! quit it already!!! you're all killing me!!!!

i did it. i pulled the paypal trigger as i have to see for myself.....plus i need a filler to hold my addiction over till wested gets some new hides in.

will post my review when i get her

GoneSolo · Post by **GoneSolo** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:08 am

Indiana G wrote:i did it. i pulled the paypal trigger as i have to see for myself.....

And you will be a happy man for doing so, G!

Dr.Seuss · Post by **Dr.Seuss** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:08 am

Aeris_Canon wrote: It's a sick, twisted, balance, isn't it, Seuss?

I could not agree more. A strange synergistic seesasw.

Sincerely,

Indiana Snipes · Post by **Indiana Snipes** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:55 pm

Well I received my replacement jacket yesterday and am happy to say that the issue I was having before with the pleat appears to have been with that one jacket alone. This one fits together very well, unfortunately there seem to be quite a few small cuts into the outer skin of the leather in various places on the jacket (not sure how this occurred) I guess someone at the factory wasn't very careful. So while the condition of the leather isn't as great as the one I sent back at least I don't have to deal with that pleat issue which definitely would have bothered me forever. So I'm pretty satisfied overall, and look forward to seeing how this jacket does in the long run. I'd totally be open to buying another one in the future if I decide to wear this one out.

On a side note I also received my Aldens yesterday and love them! Really great boots. Definitely be buying another pair someday (one for the desert, and one for dress) feel great and look great.

Puppetboy · Post by **Puppetboy** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:09 pm

AC, after sorting through some of them I see there is some variation in the collar alignment - they range from the middle of the storm flap to about 1/4" from the seam. In reality, the collar should align with the zipper in the back, which is a little to the left of center in relation to the storm flap. Otherwise, (design-wise) it would overlap the right collar when closed.

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:54 pm

Snipes, glad you like your replacement. AC & Todd, thanks for the correction & clarification. It sounds like the zipper alignment with the end of the collar is the most important consideration.

Jack

Arlington Beech · Post by **Arlington Beech** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:24 pm

Just wondering...for those who are too tall...is there enough leather in the cuff to let it out a couple of inches? That might solve the problem for you all

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:34 pm

crowe07 wrote:Just wondering...for those of us who are too tall...is there enough leather in the cuff to let it out a couple of inches?

I would ask puppetboy about that. Mine seems to have a couple of inches of extra room in the sleeves, but I'm not sure how successfully they could be let out.

Jack

GoneSolo · Post by **GoneSolo** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:35 pm

crowe07 wrote:Just wondering...for those of us who are too tall...is there enough leather in the cuff to let it out a couple of inches?

I have a Small with 23" sleeves and from what I can tell, there is a little more than an inch to let out. Hope that helps.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:26 pm

got mine. i love the SA features of this bad boy. the light leather is exactly what i expected but the pleasant surprise was that this thing fit me prefect (i thought i'd have to take in the sleeves).

well done todd! thanks for making this jacket available. as i said before, you are hitting a much needed niche in the indygear market and theres alot of gearheads that are quite greatful!

Jerome · Post by **Jerome** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:53 pm

Got my size exchange in the mail today; great fit, but like any new jacket, it wouldn't drape right. Ran some hot water in the bathtub, soaked the jacket, wrung it out and put it on. Perfect! The water makes the jacket much heavier, and it drapes perfectly, stretching where it needs to. I'll wear it for a ride on the motorcycle later to help dry it out. I don't intend to do any major distressing at this time.

I also replaced the side buckles with black-finish rectangular slider rings from my local Tandy Leather.

Your mileage may vary.

Dr._J · Post by **Dr._J** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:58 pm

Jerome, I'd love to see pics of the straps with the rectangular loops added if possible.

Thanks.

Dr. J

Jerome · Post by **Jerome** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:09 pm

Dr._J wrote:Jerome, I'd love to see pics of the straps with the rectangular loops added if possible.

Thanks.

Dr. J

Here you go:

Dr._J · Post by **Dr._J** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:21 pm

Dude, that rocks. Looks great and now, I plan on doing the same! You've got the sidestrap thing down-pat (on your jacket AND your kilt). Cheers.

Regards, Dr. J

Jerome · Post by **Jerome** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:40 pm

I used Tandy 1" "Strap Keeper Loops", the barcode # is 98834 11569. It was around $2 for a 10-pack.

They come with a nickel-plate finish which I blackened using gun bluing.

It is a welded loop, so you need to break the weld with some wire cutters, no big deal.

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:06 pm

Agreed! That second photo looks like it was also taken right out of the movie. If anyone wants a jacket that looks just like Indy's and doesn't necessarily need one that will stand up to heavy abuse, Todd's Standard is all you really need.

Jack

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:39 pm

Aeris_Canon wrote:Oh? It's been tested for heavy abuse and failed already? Or is that an assumption based on first impressions still? Just saying, isn't it still a bit too new to have an assessment on what it actually stands up to?

Sorry, AC, I wasn't referring specifically to the durability of the Standard-- no one really knows how it will hold up over time yet. But we do know how great it looks, and if that's all you really want in an Indy jacket, then the Standard definitely will fill your needs nicely. I think we've established that it's not going to fall apart at the slightest touch. I'll reword my last post to try and make my meaning more clear!

Jack

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:49 pm

the funny thing i find about this jacket is that only YOU know how light it really is. in the pictures that i've seen, it looks as thick as any other jacket. when i put it on, it feels extremely light but in the mirror, it doesn't seem to have any discernable weight at all....just looks like a leather jacket

the pattern that todd uses is bang on SA imo.....so much that i'm thinking of ordering a custom raiders built to these factory patterns. if todd's current custom jacket come from identical (and i mean stitch nazi "identical") patterns, i just might order one as my go-to jacket.

what i've been enjoying the most is playing with the zipper and giving it the SA waviness......great jacket....steal of a price.

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:11 am

If you had another jacket built to the specs of Todd's jacket would it still look like his jacket does on you? That's the real question. It's obvious, to me at least , that part of the reason this jacket looks so good is because of the leather and it's light weight. You can't assume it's just all in the pattern.

Just some food for thought. I don't want someone out there assuming just because they order a jacket with these specs their still going to get the same look. The way the jacket drapes on a persons body has a lot to do with capturing the look in my opinion.

The ONLY "negative" I can see with this jacket is that it really isn't an "all season" jacket. At least I don't believe it is. I've been wearing mine here in Indiana but so far the weather had been fairly mild for this time of year. It *may* keep me warm during the winter because I can make it hug my torso and I could wear a thick sweater under it. Then again other than the MOTB episode and in Nepal I have yet to see Indy wear this jacket in any other cold climates. To me this jacket is the weight you would want a leather jacket if you were out trekking thru some jungle.

I'm trying to wear my jacket as much as possible but I'm guessing it won't be until next spring and summer before I really get some use out of it.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:59 pm

Pitfall Harry wrote:If you had another jacket built to the specs of Todd's jacket would it still look like his jacket does on you? That's the real question.

that's the million dollar question then ain't it? ....er....well the $499 question to be more precise. my gut tells me yes, it will look the same but built with a better hide and better lining. if the drape is not the same, it will come in in time assuming that todd's lamb is not strangely different to the leather that i am use to.

another question i have is, other than the materials, what else is different.....in the construction that is. i see that some of the lining is stitched directly to the panels of the leather....would this have any drastic effects on drape? food for thought indeed.

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:42 am

I wore my Indy jacket from Todd's out for Halloween and just for the heck of it I added some Fuller's Earth to it. Now I thought it screamed Indy BEFORE I did that and now it looks even better!!! It looks like I just ripped it right off Ford's back from the truck chase scene and the Well of the Souls scene in Raiders.

Here's a shot of me and my son (Indy Jr.) Halloween night. I know the lighting isn't that great but you can see how much more "character" the Fuller's Earth adds to the already awesome jacket.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:00 am

sorry PH, your gear looks great with the fuller's earth and all but i don't think people can get past how great that father/son picture is my friend

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:43 am

Thanks, G.

Yeah, he got all of the attention from the ladies the other night......He also made that Dorfman look good. I was kinda jealous!

At least you guys get an idea of how the jacket looks with dirt on it. So don't be afraid to get it dusty. It can take it.

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:12 am

Great photo. The kid is definitely a keeper

and it's a terrific look for a jacket that already looked amazing.

Jack

Risu · Post by **Risu** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:54 am

Pitfall Harry wrote:Then again other than the MOTB episode and in Nepal I have yet to see Indy wear this jacket in any other cold climates.

As my dad would say, Indy doesn't need to be warm, he just toughens up and takes the cold like a man.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:18 am

Heck, I lie the kid's gear! It looks great on him as is!

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:50 am

Risu wrote:
Pitfall Harry wrote:Then again other than the MOTB episode and in Nepal I have yet to see Indy wear this jacket in any other cold climates.
As my dad would say, Indy doesn't need to be warm, he just toughens up and takes the cold like a man.

I like that.

binkmeisterRick wrote:Heck, I like the kid's gear! It looks great on him as is!

Thanks Bink.

It's kinda hard to see in the shot but I even added Fuller's Earth to his hat as well. That Dorfman looked pretty darn good with some dirt on it.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:54 am

He's a kid! He doesn't need any Fuller's Earth on him. Just put him outside and he'll be dirty on his own in five minutes!

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:58 am

Yeah, I never even thought of that. I should have just let him run around all day in his gear.

We've got a green power wheels jeep. I'll have to let his brother drive it and the put him in his gear and let him drag behind it using his whip!

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:14 am

Now you have no choice but to set up the photo.

Indiana Max · Post by **Indiana Max** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:22 am

Great picture of you and your son Harry, nice to see that you changed your attitude concerning the handling of a Wested jacket apparent visualized in all your last pictures

Good by untouchable cleanliness, that is the right way

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:51 am

I'll have to try that this weekend, Bink.

Max, that's not my Wested in those pics. I'm wearing my Standard Raiders Lambskin jacket from Todd's.

Puppetboy · Post by **Puppetboy** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:17 pm

PH,

Awesome! You make that jacket come alive!

Oh, and about your munchkin, there! You are a lucky man - and he is a lucky boy, I believe.

Todd

bobbyd · Post by **bobbyd** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:19 pm

indy and mini-indy - great shot pitfall!

btw every time i read your name i hear in my head the music from the video game that played whenever he jumped onto one of the swinging vines.. ahh atari 2600, how many hours did i dedicate to you?

and wow that fuller's earth stuff is pretty cool - it looks like you pulled that thing off of harrison ford's back! does it wipe off easily?

Satipo · Post by **Satipo** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:32 pm

Got to say I'm loving the look of this jacket. If only it was less of a gamble regarding the finer details, I'd definitely buy one. But I'm not sure I can risk the possibility of multiple returns being based here in the UK.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:39 pm

erri_wan wrote

Actually I ordered a jacket with 2 sizes more in the collar, it didn't cost me anything more. I wanted to add actually 3 sizes but Peter suggested me that 2 were going to be enough. I trusted him.
The jacket is still in England and I haven't seen it yet but I'm surprised that no one till now (at least not that I can remember) has ever tried to order this spec.
I'll post pictures of it as soon as I get it. You'll have to wait to see if Wested "nailed" that look.

Erri, I can't wait to see that jacket. Agent5 is perfectly right saying that the collar was longer than normal. However, there still are some photos to the contrary.

http://www.theraider.net/films/raiders/ ... ts/056.jpg

http://www.theraider.net/films/raiders/ ... ts/247.jpg

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:48 pm

Hey I see R2D2 & C3PO hyroglyphs in that last link you posted Platon!

Show some pictures of the longer collar please, cause I've only seen the one where he's on top of the WoS. And I'd never heard that theory until recently.

Doug C

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:14 pm

Puppetboy wrote:PH,

Awesome! You make that jacket come alive!

Oh, and about your munchkin, there! You are a lucky man - and he is a lucky boy, I believe.

Todd

Well, thank you for offering such a cool jacket. I'm having a ton of fun with it. It was worth every penny I paid for it in my opinion.

Who knows maybe someday I'll be able to pass it on to Jr.!

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:17 pm

bobbyd wrote:indy and mini-indy - great shot pitfall! btw every time i read your name i hear in my head the music from the video game that played whenever he jumped onto one of the swinging vines.. ahh atari 2600, how many hours did i dedicate to you?

and wow that fuller's earth stuff is pretty cool - it looks like you pulled that thing off of harrison ford's back! does it wipe off easily?

On my Wested Goat it was harder to wipe off because of the grain of the leather. The lamb is so soft and smooth it just wipes right off with ease from what I can tell.

Yes, even I on occasion will hear that music from the game in my head when I read my own handle. More than not the part that's stuck in my head was the music that played when you got killed.

Dre · Post by **Dre** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:44 am

I got a wested goat a couple of years ago that I love but never quite fit snugly enough for my liking.

Interested in getting one of these jackets but have two questions.

Firstly, does the international shipping that they quote on the site include any sort of insurance/tracking?

Secondly, i'm not exactly sure what size to get. I normally wear 'medium' or 'small' in Australia but that could really vary. My wested is either a size 40 or 41 (not 80s fit) and it fits rather large on me. I think i'd be more like a size 38, but on the website the sizes only start at 44"?

Puppetboy · Post by **Puppetboy** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:30 am

Dre,

The sizes on the chart are the actual measurements of the JACKET - not sizes. Measure yourself and measure a jacket with the fit you want and you should know exactly what size to buy.

We ship USPS internationally - if you want to ship UPS we'll need to do it by e-mail since our shopping cart has no shipping options.

Indiana Snipes · Post by **Indiana Snipes** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:27 am

I discovered something tonight, and wanted to see if anyone else was having the same issue. The polyester lining inside the hand warmer pockets is coming out, and since I have never stuck my hands in them until now I can only assume they were this way or weren't sewn in very well that it didn't take much. Where it's coming out is the lining that is sewn up against the front of the jacket (the lining sewn against the hand warmer part is fine). Right now I'm contemplating just ripping the liner out, the hand warmer pockets are really quite impracticable due to the fact that they are quite small, and if I rip that lining out it will expose the leather that is behind there because it's basically sewed to the front of the jacket. Any thoughts? Anybody else noticed this?

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:26 pm

Snipes, I just checked mine and everything seems to be fine. Oddly enough this was the first time I tried to put my hands in them and they are small. I could barely get my hands in there.....

The lining seems to be fine though.

eazybox · Post by **eazybox** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:35 pm

Todd mentioned somewhere that the pockets are less roomy because they are patch pockets instead of being cut into the jacket's body.

The lining of my pockets is fine, too, but if the stitching on the lining of yours was loose to begin with, I can see how it might pull free when the jacket is zipped up snugly.

Jack

Indiana Snipes · Post by **Indiana Snipes** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:12 pm

I guess I'm just cursed with bad luck when it comes to this jacket

...oh well it's not a big deal, I still think I might cut it out that way it would be like the the inside of the big flap pockets on the front of the jacket.

eazybox wrote:Todd mentioned somewhere that the pockets are less roomy because they are patch pockets instead of being cut into the jacket's body.

The lining of my pockets is fine, too, but if the stitching on the lining of yours was loose to begin with, I can see how it might pull free when the jacket is zipped up snugly.

Jack

No, I think putting my hands in there forced it loose, plus there was a lot of rubber cement on the lining of one of the pockets and I was kinda scratching at it (not hard though). Then I noticed the lining that was stitched on the bottom and one of the side had completely pulled out and I could feel the leather behind it.

Dre · Post by **Dre** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:44 am

Ordered a standard todd's yesterday, but now i'm starting to wonder if that was a good idea. Everything about the jacket sounds great...except the leather. It'd be good if you could get a todd's standard in a better leather - without the 'custom' sizing, maybe for 250? From the reports in this thread, the leather just feels really cheap and plasticy (the post that scares me especially is the one that likens it to the leather on an old indy figure...sounds atrocious). I get the impression that as soon as I wear it out somewhere it'll be destroyed?

I know this is a jacket from 'todd's COSTUMES', but i'd like to actually be able to wear this jacket as a proper jacket and not just something designed for one or two conventions before it disintergrates

bobbyd · Post by **bobbyd** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:58 am

Dre wrote:Ordered a standard todd's yesterday, but now i'm starting to wonder if that was a good idea. Everything about the jacket sounds great...except the leather. It'd be good if you could get a todd's standard in a better leather - without the 'custom' sizing, maybe for 250? From the reports in this thread, the leather just feels really cheap and plasticy (the post that scares me especially is the one that likens it to the leather on an old indy figure...sounds atrocious). I get the impression that as soon as I wear it out somewhere it'll be destroyed?

I know this is a jacket from 'todd's COSTUMES', but i'd like to actually be able to wear this jacket as a proper jacket and not just something designed for one or two conventions before it disintegrates

Dre - Honestly I don't think the leather on Todd's standard jacket is bad at all. It's thin, to be sure, as is the lining; but I didn't think of it as "action-figureish" in any way. Does it feel like a heavy leather jacket? Absolutely not. It's more like a light leather windbreaker. Is it the nicest best leather you can get? Certainly not, but hey it's $150. I can tell you I wore it out in high 40 degree temps with nothing but a long sleeve shirt underneath and was perfectly comfortable. Now, I did return mine, but that was due to a multitude of construction issues that not everyone else has experienced (see my thread here: viewtopic.php?t=24453).
-bd