New Whip and Holder Source!

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Sun Jul 14, 2002 12:11 am

I have located a new whip and holder source near where I live in Texas. The company is called New Braunfels Leather Company. Clinton, the owner, and Paul make leather products by hand and are located in New Braunfels, TX. I have purchased a whip and asked if they would be interested in making some other items. I took them pics of the whip, holder, strap, gun belt and holster. Paul made me a whip holder a few days later and it is great! I am working with Paul on making a belt, strap and holster as well. Those will be coming soon.

I told him that I chat with people online who are interested in "Adventure Gear" and asked if it would it be ok to give out their information as they do not have a website established. They said that they did not have a problem with it and that they do shipping all the time.

Note: The pictures are a little large so give them time to load.

Here is the whip.

This one is a 10 foot whip. Leather non-braided swivel handle. Very good starter whip. He also has whips with natural wood handles.

Here is the holder.

This is a sturdy whip holder. We actually made the holder around the whip so we know it would fit well.

Here are the prices:
12 foot Whip Leather Swivel Handle: $53.90 +shipping
10 foot Whip Leather Swivel Handle: $46.92 +shipping
8 foot Whip Leather Swivel Handle: $39.80 +shipping
6 foot Whip Leather Swivel Handle: $32.91 +shipping
12 foot Whip Non-Swivel Natural Wood Handle: $62.30 +shipping
10 foot Whip Non-Swivel Natural Wood Handle: $56.00 +shipping
8 foot Whip Non-Swivel Natural Wood Handle: $44.10 +shipping
6 foot Whip Non-Swivel Natural Wood Handle: $36.90 +shipping
Poppers: $0.80/ea +shipping (12 or more: $0.40/ea +shipping)
Whip Holder: $15.00 +shipping

The Natural Wood Leather Handle whips are the only Non-Swivel whips they offer.

Before you order, I have to say this.
There have been times in the past when new vendors were alienated from onslaught of calls from IndyGear fans. Please exercise tact when dealing with any new vendor. Especially in this case as they are my "neighbors".

Here is a quote from Indiana John from the old COW for those of you who are new and perhaps missed this topic.:

It's not necessary to give out information when buying a product...you don't owe an explanation...it's a business transaction. Of course, it's not a means to be rude either...so if someone asks, then be brief and very generic--don't associate the purchase with Indiana Jones. If I heard the words "Indiana Jones" as a vendor, dollar signs would light-up for me too! So don't blurt out stuff...

In general regarding any vendors, think before you speak. The best way for this hobby to be ruined...is for someone to say something stupid, and blow it for the lot of us. It only takes one...

-John

They are:
New Braunfels Leather Co. Inc.
197 S. Seguin Ave.
P.O. Box 311506
New Braunfels, Texas 78131-1506

Office Phone: 830-625-3522
Store Phone: 830-629-0540
Toll Free: 1-800-683-1629
Fax: 830-608-1861

Hours (Central Time):
Monday - Friday: 8am - 12pm & 1pm - 5pm
Saturday - 8am - 12pm
Sunday - Closed

I recommend that you call and speak to Paul. I have been working exclusively with him. Again, these are nice people and I would put them up there with Peter and others as far as wanting to make the customer happy.

I am getting nothing out of this other than helping a local business succeed in what they enjoy doing. I am happy to give back to a great forum that has given me so much.

Pyro.

Magnum · Post by **Magnum** » Sun Jul 14, 2002 12:34 am

Great find! A very nice and cheap starter whip that is reasonably similar to Indy's. That whip holder looks almost exactly like the real one that was posted a few weeks back. Thanks for sharing!

Henri Defense · Post by **Henri Defense** » Sun Jul 14, 2002 1:22 am

What a deal! I may get one of those whips...

Henri

Indiana Texas-girl · Post by **Indiana Texas-girl** » Sun Jul 14, 2002 1:32 am

Pyro, is the fall built into the braid or attached separately? I can't tell in the pic, but it looks like it's built in.

Nice finds by the way! Perhaps you can bring some of their work to the summit, if you're able to come in August. I can't wait to see the holster.

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 8:54 am

Indiana Texas-girl wrote:Pyro, is the fall built into the braid or attached separately? I can't tell in the pic, but it looks like it's built in.

Yes. It is built into the braid. Most all the whips I saw in his office are that way.

BTW, I revised my messaged and added their hours of business. Take note as they are a little different than most other establishments.

Pyr.

Chamorro · Post by **Chamorro** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 12:37 pm

That's an awesome looking whipholder. I like the dark color. Just like LC! Great price too.

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 1:04 pm

KyleS wrote: -This is a 'Texas' style bullwhip so it probably has a swivel handle.

-It more than likely has a rope core making the whip's thong very light.

etc...

Yup. I 100% agree with everything you said. Speaking to them they said that they used to make and supply roo hide whips but they were very time consuming. Because I wouldn't know a good whip if it smacked me in the face, this is a good starting point for me. It also makes a very nice prop whip you can hang on your wall if you are just collecting.

Pyr.

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 1:14 pm

The only thing I would add to Kyle's post (& I agree with his points), this does look like a swivel handle bullwhip. What that means is that the handle will rotate on you. A swivel handle whip is only handy for the "overhead" crack, which rotates on the horizontal plane. But the downside to a swivel handle whip is that it makes for a poor target whip. So when trying to crack on a "true" vertical plane, it will "plane" out or not hold that plane. Also the "slapper" type fall that Kyle mentioned is problematic to accuracy as well. The "slapper" or wide fall will cause the fall to "flutter" around instead of slicing through the air.

The insides are probably made with a rope at best. Sometimes there is nothing inside. But most likely if it is a rope, the rope will start disintegrating over time. So you will see rope fibers penetrating through the outer overlay area.

But other than that, the overlay will be sturdy. For a limited budget, this is a good whip for someone starting out. However, the difference between the performance of a double-bellied, kangaroo whip and this thing are enormous. But so is the price. So I would have fun with it, and if you really like the sport of whipcracking, then upgrade to a roo.

Just my .02...

-S

The_Edge · Post by **The_Edge** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 1:26 pm

I transferred my post over to the Bullwhip section...

http://www.indygear.com/community/forum ... .php?t=277

-Kyle

Indiana Texas-girl · Post by **Indiana Texas-girl** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 1:45 pm

Did Kyle's post get deleted?

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 1:46 pm

No, Kyle's post now exists at the 'URL' he mentioned.

Indiana Texas-girl · Post by **Indiana Texas-girl** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 2:26 pm

Whooops, I just saw Kyle's link above...I wonder how I missed that in the first round.

copper · Post by **copper** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 4:35 pm

Hey pyro find out if they can make a non swivel handle whip.Plus the wood handle is it braded with leather or is it plain?

copper · Post by **copper** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 4:39 pm

Oh yeah I forgot to ask what is the price for a 12 footer?Thats what I prefer.It dont take long for me to drive too New Braunfels but it would be nice if you can find out for me.Thanks copper.

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 5:29 pm

Good questions. I am planning a visit on Wednesday. I will ask them during that visit.

Pyr..

sab04 · Post by **sab04** » Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:50 pm

hi,
Usually when I buy an american whip I take off the cheap fall and braid on a real kangaroo hide fall. It makes an american whip MUCH better for cracking. the american cow hide falls break too easily and it's annoying.
-Scott

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 8:53 am

Interesting. Perhaps you snap some pics. Sounds like a lesson we could all learn.

Pyr

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 2:10 pm

copper wrote:...what is the price for a 12 footer?

I have updated the item and price information at the top of the post.

Pyr

copper · Post by **copper** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 2:30 pm

Hey pyro do you know what kind of core those whips have nylon or what?

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 2:46 pm

Yup. Nylon core. Probably why the whips are so inexpensive.

I am learning more about this all the time.

What is at the center of a David Morgan-type whip?

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 3:21 pm

The David Morgan whips, the core and plaited bellies are made entirely of kangaroo.

AZIndy · Post by **AZIndy** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 3:35 pm

Hey Pyro, is that shop anywhere near the summit coming up? Maybe we could make it a stop if its not to far out, and I'd love to get one exactly like you have there, would it be possible for me to call him and say "just like pyro's?" ;-)

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Thu Jul 18, 2002 3:49 pm

AZIndy wrote:Hey Pyro, is that shop anywhere near the summit coming up?

Unfortunately, New Braunfels is 234 miles from Fort Worth. However, you can call and talk about the leather handle whips. Paul is the guy and tell him you saw the whips online and you are interested.

Pyr.

PS - I just sent you a message.

P

AZIndy · Post by **AZIndy** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 2:45 pm

Just odered my whip! Thanks again Pyro, Paul was extremely nice and very attentive to detail! Can't wait to get it! he said he could have it here before the summit, so hopefully Ill have something more interesting to crack that the glorified shoelace I have now!

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 3:37 pm

That's great! What size did you get? I am thinking about getting a 6 footer for backyard pratice.

Indiana Texas-girl · Post by **Indiana Texas-girl** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 6:44 pm

AZIndy wrote:Just odered my whip! Thanks again Pyro, Paul was extremely nice and very attentive to detail! Can't wait to get it! he said he could have it here before the summit, so hopefully Ill have something more interesting to crack that the glorified shoelace I have now!

AZ, you might check your airline's policy on whips in the carryon luggage. I believe airlines can confiscate bullwhips if it's in the carryon...I do believe we can carry them inside the checkin baggage...but you might double check with your airline, as we would all not want to see a gearhead have their whip taken up by security.

Post by **Dalexs** » Wed Jul 24, 2002 1:36 am

http://www.tsa.dot.gov/trav_consumers/a ... hibit.shtm

This is the website that has the current listing of what is allowed on board,
aka carry-on. Bull Whips are still on the list. FWIW.

Dalexs

AZIndy · Post by **AZIndy** » Wed Jul 24, 2002 1:39 am

thanks for the info guys, guess that means they wont let me try cracking it int he aisle? Oh well.

) Oh, I forgot to reply before, I ended up getting a 10 footer and a whip holder much like the pictures Pyro posted.

Post by **Ken** » Wed Jul 24, 2002 10:31 am

Well I manged to get a machete all the way from Guatemala to Northern Ireland travelling through Mexico, Belize, Peru, Bolivia, Madrid and London Heathrow in my check-in baggage. I was well pleased with that.

Ken

AZIndy · Post by **AZIndy** » Wed Jul 31, 2002 2:15 pm

I got the whip and holder pyro and they are simply the best I've ever owned! Do you get a good crack with yours? Everyone at the shop was extremely helpful and great to work with!

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Wed Jul 31, 2002 2:27 pm

That's awesome! I am happy I could help. Yes, I got to crack mine. I like the handle on this whip because, for me at least, it only swivels when I want it to. But, if that becomes too much of a problem, under the post "Swivel Suspicion" I learned how to stop it.

Happy Cracking