Pecards on Black

Trotsky · Post by **Trotsky** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:00 am

I have seen Pecards applied on Brown jackets, but what about Black? I have a Wested Doctor Who in black and would like to apply some sort of treatment, would pecards be a good idea?
Does Pecards work on shoes too?

I am sorta new to the treat you leather thing!

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:03 am

As long as it's the regular, neutral coloured Pecards, knock yourself out

If it was the Pecards that some of us own, with the brown colouring in it, well, that might not be such a hot idea

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:51 am

Why not use the black Pecards dressing? That's what it was made for...black dyed leather jackets and boots.

Standard Pecards works on all leather, but take a few minutes to read the post by Leather_Loco at the top of this section.

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:21 pm

i'm going to use black pecards on my russety lambskin jacket (i'll use behind the pocket flap to see if it'll work)....i'm trying to tone down the reddish russet colour and give it a more dark brown colour.

i've got a tonne of brown pecard on it....so some black pecard should make it dark brown no?

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:25 pm

Indiana G wrote:....so some black pecard should make it dark brown no?

Hey, you know what Eric, the VP of research and development of Pecards, told you. You're on your own with that, my friend.

Regards! Michaelson

Trotsky · Post by **Trotsky** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:15 pm

Thanks guys! This helps!

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:40 pm

Hey, you know what Eric, the VP of research and development of Pecards, told you. You're on your own with that, my friend.

Regards! Michaelson

i'm thinking he's not accustomed to folks taking their brand new english made jackets and running a belt sander on them.......at least my way is still in the name of preserving your jacket.......besides what's the worse that can happen??? i can spec out and order another jacket

.....i'll just use the credit card because thats free......right?

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:54 pm

OH yes he is. He's been 'among' us since the beginning of Indygear.com, so he's WELL aware of what is done to our gear, and what we use on the leather.

Take note....he's been a member here since July, 2002.

That's why the brown, black, and 'creme' was created....watching what we do, and creating products that help 'fix' mistakes.

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:14 pm

i stand corrected sir

my jacket currently could pass for wested's authentic brown in flourescent lighting......in daylight, she's got some reddish undertones....i'm hoping that the black pecard can dull this out a bit....kind of like how shoe polish was applied to the original.

from my question on the other thread, it doesn't look like anyone has tried this yet......especially on veg tanned leather. i'm gonna give her a go underneath the pocket flap and perhaps under the collar to find out what happens before i do anything crazy

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:50 pm

Good idea. Just keep in mind that the black and brown Pecards are mainly a tint, and not a dye or polish. It will help put the like color tone back, but will not 'cover' like a dye or polish will.

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:41 pm

It will help put the like color tone back, but will not 'cover' like a dye or polish will.

michaelson, i used brown pecard on my jacket applying it with an old sock. for one of my most hearty applications, i decided to use my wells lamont gloves so as not to get my hands all yellowy....the brown pecard actually turned the gloves brown......perhaps it depends on the type of leather that it is applied to? this is the effect i am banking on with the black pecard....an overall dulling effect on the russet hue of my jacket.

VP · Post by VP » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:01 pm

I've put black leather dressing on my boots and then after it's soaked in finished it with a coating of the regular Pecards.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:28 pm

so how'd they come out vp? darker brown? a pecard disaster.....had to buy new boots?

VP · Post by VP » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:26 am

Awesome, they weren't Aldens but Finnish M/91 Combat Boots.

They looked pretty rad when the Pecards were still wet and the boots shined like crazy, but the soaking in toned it down quite nicely. Should do it again in a few months when the season starts and I'll have to wear these 24/7 when I join the service in January.

Oh yeah and I didn't use black Pecards, I used this stuff by the Bundeswehr:

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:41 am

Hummm. I don't speak or read German, but I believe I can make out the words 'with silicone' in the description. Pecards has no silicone in their mix, so it is a different type product all together.

Nice results, though!

Regards! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:31 am

Babelfish to the rescue!

highest quality class

leather-maintains impregnating agents with silicone water-rejecting

particularly suitably for strongly stressed footwear

a singular leather-maintains at the same time by wax protective components

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:36 am

oh, i thought you put black pecard on brown boots..........nice results on the black boots though

Trotsky · Post by **Trotsky** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:35 pm

VP wrote:Awesome, they weren't Aldens but Finnish M/91 Combat Boots.

They looked pretty rad when the Pecards were still wet and the boots shined like crazy, but the soaking in toned it down quite nicely. Should do it again in a few months when the season starts and I'll have to wear these 24/7 when I join the service in January.

Oh yeah and I didn't use black Pecards, I used this stuff by the Bundeswehr:

Ummm, where can I get a pair of those? Those are some really, really close boots to the 9th Doctor's. In fact, they are #### near dead on.

VP · Post by VP » Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:09 am

They're all over the place here, here are some online sources:

http://milpro.fi/index.cfm?action=tuote ... A2504A902C (milpro@netti.fi )
http://www.maanpuolustusyhtio.fi/produc ... oduct=2381 (mp-myymala@maanpuolustusyhtio.fi)
http://us-eagle.fi/kauppa/product_info. ... cts_id=187 (http://us-eagle.fi/kauppa/contact_us.php)

JulianK · Post by **JulianK** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:01 pm

If you have a lot of black leather that's lost a bit of it's...well..blackness, try Doc Bailey's Leather Black. It was originally made for motorcycle leathers but I've used it quite succesfully on black leather jackets to add colour. It's also great for the car on things like leather steering wheels and shifters. It does also contain a conditioner but on my jackets I apply a coat of black Pecards afterwards.

http://www.docbailey.com/leather_care.asp

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:06 pm

Excellent information.

What is interesting is that a silicone based product is perfect for gear that is used in areas like VP and Julian live in....but in warmer more humid climes like where I live (South Central Tennessee, US), silicone tends to seal the leather to much, not letting it breathe. It's great for situations of cold and wet, but it's like wearing gear that's been sealed in a plastic bag. HOT!!!

That's another reason why Pecards works so well down here, as it's a bees wax base rather than silicone, and is water resistance, but still allows the leather to 'breathe'.

It's all in where you live and what you need to make your gear 'work'!

Regards! Michaelson