IndianaG IV, teaser

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:39 pm

IV is for fourth wested.

message received july 20th, 2007:

Dear Sir,
Your order has been processed for production under order number 6093 for further correspondence please don't hesitate to contact me
Cheers Gemma

look at the jacket order....6093....

compare that to the ark crate no. 9906753 and the 9906573......

do you see the connection............I DON'T....

just throwing it out there for the #### of it

Castor Dioscuri · Post by **Castor Dioscuri** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:26 am

Seriously though, I wonder who has Wested #1138

codefool · Post by **codefool** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:12 am

I'm Wested #7006, placed on July 26th. Let's see, 7006 less 6093 plus 1 is 14 "orders" in seven days (assuming he placed the order on July 19th, and was notified on July 20th), which comes to two "orders" a day on average. From comments here, it looks like it takes 21-days on average to "receive" the jacket, so given three days transit time and weekends (6 days, 9 days total), it takes Wested about 12 working days to process an order.

Interesting. I wonder what order they're on now?

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:23 pm

codefool....now my head hurts......uhm....what? what's a wested again? they make jackets?

Post by **Tennessee Smith** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:16 pm

Castor Dioscuri wrote:Seriously though, I wonder who has Wested #1138

I really hope you're kidding.

We all know it's owned by Robert Duvall.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:09 pm

I'm Wested #7006, placed on July 26th. Let's see, 7006 less 6093 plus 1 is 14 "orders" in seven days (assuming he placed the order on July 19th, and was notified on July 20th)

914 orders....which doesn't seem right.[/quote]

codefool · Post by **codefool** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:47 pm

Indiana G wrote:
I'm Wested #7006, placed on July 26th. Let's see, 7006 less 6093 plus 1 is 14 "orders" in seven days (assuming he placed the order on July 19th, and was notified on July 20th)
914 orders....which doesn't seem right.

Auggh! I hate it when I get my math wrong. And yes, if they're getting 914 orders in seven days, they are busy busy for a small shop.

Oh, well, it was fun while it lasted.

Sigh.

Castor Dioscuri · Post by **Castor Dioscuri** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:29 am

914 orders? I suppose now is probably not the best time to order a Wested... I don't know how many jackets they make daily, but considering that it's a small shop, and... well let's say if they make 10 jackets a day, it would take them about 3 months to get through 914 jackets!

ANZAC_1915 · Post by **ANZAC_1915** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:13 am

Castor Dioscuri wrote:914 orders? I suppose now is probably not the best time to order a Wested... I don't know how many jackets they make daily, but considering that it's a small shop, and... well let's say if they make 10 jackets a day, it would take them about 3 months to get through 914 jackets!

They do make things other than Indy jackets....

Speaking of which, mine has apparently shipped!!!

Castor Dioscuri · Post by **Castor Dioscuri** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:16 am

ANZAC_1915 wrote:
Castor Dioscuri wrote:914 orders? I suppose now is probably not the best time to order a Wested... I don't know how many jackets they make daily, but considering that it's a small shop, and... well let's say if they make 10 jackets a day, it would take them about 3 months to get through 914 jackets!
They do make things other than Indy jackets....

That's true... and?

ANZAC_1915 · Post by **ANZAC_1915** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:09 pm

Castor Dioscuri wrote:
ANZAC_1915 wrote:
Castor Dioscuri wrote:914 orders? I suppose now is probably not the best time to order a Wested... I don't know how many jackets they make daily, but considering that it's a small shop, and... well let's say if they make 10 jackets a day, it would take them about 3 months to get through 914 jackets!
They do make things other than Indy jackets....
That's true... and?

The sequence of orders is probably not the count of jackets made.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:17 pm

If their orders had come in at the rate of 900+ in that short time they'd be on an order number much higher than 7006, I think someone jumped a thousand rather than a hundred. Of course they could reset to 1 everytime they reach 10,000?

Castor Dioscuri · Post by **Castor Dioscuri** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:30 pm

ANZAC_1915 wrote:
Castor Dioscuri wrote:
ANZAC_1915 wrote:
Castor Dioscuri wrote:914 orders? I suppose now is probably not the best time to order a Wested... I don't know how many jackets they make daily, but considering that it's a small shop, and... well let's say if they make 10 jackets a day, it would take them about 3 months to get through 914 jackets!
They do make things other than Indy jackets....
That's true... and?
The sequence of orders is probably not the count of jackets made.

I always thought that the numerical count was solely based on custom Indy jackets, since my non-Indy Wested's don't have a number attached, and same for my "out-sourced" worn-look Wested.

But I do agree with KT

thePawn · Post by **thePawn** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:47 pm

What's the wait time for a Wested from the time they process your order?

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:39 pm

it sounds like its about 21 to 28 days until its packaged for delivery.....me thinks.....it be safe to say that it's about a month from hitting the order button to getting the delivery notification.....no worries though....waiting feels goooood

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:22 pm

it's here!!! and man oh man did peter smash this out of the park!!! she's got all of my raiders specs including the buckles i sent him....beautiful pockets, collar meeting the storm flap halfway, and wested even got the stitichin on the action straps as per my request (same as what todd is doing on his). good god she is a beauty!!! the best part is she's made from the PRESHRUNK VEG TANNED LAMBSKIN....very thick lambskin hide i must say and it looks like it will distress on a dime. the colour is a little lighter than the authentic brown but as KT has shown, it will darken up quite quickly.

peter, you guys scored a 10/10 on this one. thanks very much for the service.

now to find the camera...........

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:06 pm

Um... just because I never get to it before others click the button...
;0

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:27 pm

all right.......here's a pic of my jacket.....but it's a little lighter than what you see, but nothing a coat of pecards won't take care of

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:49 pm

Must See Pics!!

That veg tanned lamb is a really, really interesting leather, packed full of character, it really will age and distress like no other. Not for the faint hearted!

codefool · Post by **codefool** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:18 pm

Okay - July 20th to August 28th, that's 30 working days and 39 contiguous days.

Did Gemma send you a delivery notice? And where are you?

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:44 pm

i didn't get a delivery notice and i'm in calgary, alberta canada.

i'm now a firm believer of 'good things come to those who wait'. before i spent literally hundreds of dollars to get the fastest delivery and tracked every movment of all my shipments....now i just sit back and let it come when it comes so that it's a pleasant surprise when you get it.

as for the jacket, the only thing not SA about it is the colour....looks more like the shade of an AB hatband than seal brown but being veg tanned leather, i am assuming she will darken up. i'm kind of on the fence of whether or not to pecard her up or let it darken naturally......

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:48 pm

k...so i slapped 2 coats of pecards on her and man does it make a difference. she's darkening up quite nicely and i don't think she's stopped yet!

right now its about the same shade as morsegist's jacket here:

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/5210 ... ru9.th.jpg

morsegist, if you don't want me to post this, please let me know and i will remove.

i wanted to add something about the hide. this is not like any kind of lambskin i have ever seen. it is quite thick and stiff, moreso than the usual suspects that wested and todd uses for lambskin. i can see why peter needs more $$$ to work with this as it reminds me of cowhide. this feels to be tougher than the goat wested that i have. out of all my indy jackets (westeds, todd and us authentic), this hide feels to be the toughest and has come along way from that "costume jacket" feel. i'm sure this would take alot of abuse....lots! what do they feed these lambs anyway to get them like this?

i will get some pics of her tonite.

cheers all,

g

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:54 pm

pics

http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m212 ... ff2015.jpg
http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m212 ... ff2016.jpg

the above were after 2 coats of pecards. here's a pic during the session showing the original hue of the leather:

http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m212 ... uff002.jpg

and for my stitch nazi bretheren:

http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m212 ... ff2019.jpg
http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m212 ... ff2018.jpg
http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m212 ... ff2017.jpg

cheers

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:42 pm

Nice jacket!

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:31 pm

Stunned silence!

Love it! Now go out and put a month's wear on it and show us again, as the extra special quality of that leather cannot be seen in those pics.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:55 pm

i know that you know what i know bout this stuff....it's a distressing fan's dream!!! but i'm going the michaelson route on her just like everything else

but here's a little hint to give the folks an idea....if you put a piece of tape on the leather and rip it off....it leaves a lightened and noticeable mark. rub that same area wth your fingers and the mark goes away.....i did this by accident today as there was some lint i wanted to remove....this material is extremely reactive to distressing techniques.

Castor Dioscuri · Post by **Castor Dioscuri** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:15 am

I got to say that your jacket looks like it was pulled out of some time machine! Now THAT's what a rugged leather jacket should look like!

The only thing you need to get that full on Indy effect IMO is to get some brown Pecard's dressing... and WEAR it!

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:18 am

Hey G - Do you have any pictures of you wearing this jacket? I'd really like to see some, as I'm really considering having one made out of this veg.tan leather.

Doug C

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:56 pm

here ya go dougc.....bare in mind that i've treated my jacket repeatedly with pecard, then brown pecard, then black pecard

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:58 pm

Looks like a great fit, G!

What I find REALLY ironic is it's the same color as the no longer offered U. S. Wings 50 mission cowhide Indy jacket.

Regards! Michaelson

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:54 pm

Wow IG, that was quick - thanks. I really like the color personally. I'm thinking of having one of these done up like the TofD jacket you had done (yours was in darker leather).. would you have an order number that I could refer Wested to copy..but in a 42long ? that might save explaining alot of specs ya know. If not it's ok, and thanks for posting these pictures.

Doug C

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:22 pm

BTW, even though I like the color, I would probably attempt to darken it myself. Believe it or not I'm considering (if I make the purchase) some spray on acrylic leather dye like Meltonian's NuLife Color Spray : http://www.peasandcornco.com/shoeandlea ... asp#nulife

the idea would be to only give it a very light almost transparent coating of dark brown #606 administered from a fair distance. I think if done right it would allow that nice russet color to progressively peak through with wear, especially since it's water based. That's what I'm thinking at this point but we'll see.

Doug C

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:56 pm

doug c,

step away from the laptop/phone/personal letterhead and envelope.....just stop right there!!!!

wested is currently trying to get some darker veg tanned lamb in the more SA chocolate brown colour....if i were you, i would wait so that you don't have to go through paying the premium price of this hide and having to pay more to darken it........unless you really like rubbing dye into leather

i'm currently waiting on this. i believe kt reported that peter is having some problems with the italian tannery ...so just relax, kick up your heels...and let us sit upon the ground and tell sad stories of the death of kings.......

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:09 pm

Has it been stated somewhere what thickness or weight this Vegetable Tanned leather is and/or how it compares to the original Raiders leather in that regard. I know people have said it's heavier than the modern and current lambskin, but anyone know the actual specs?

Doug C

nicktheguy · Post by **nicktheguy** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:26 pm

Now that jacket looks great.

Indiana Kev · Post by **Indiana Kev** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:33 pm

Ok I just saw this thread. IG man that is a good looking jacket!

...um...I was just wondering if...maybe...can I have it!??

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:14 pm

kev,

yes, you can have the jacket......if i can manage to swing a nowak jacket before 2008

ac, btw, that's wested's zipper. i've never sent any zipper's to anyone except flightjacket but they had a better silver zipper to use (so they sent mine back to me).

i sent wested a package with all my specs. most of the specs were drawn from agent 5's compilation (can be found on page 2 of the thread where we first discussed todd's jacket). i also gave them a diagram of how i wanted the stitching to be done on my side straps along with my buckles that i found in australia. added to this, i also gave them a diagram of the pockets which KT made up quite a while back when platon was discussing his SA jacket (the one that was too small for him and eventually went to rick5150 i believe). it was a long process but was extremely fun to spec out. i mailed it in instead of the website order form so as they can get the buckles as well as having all the instructions in one place. after that, wested got EVERYTHING i asked......pleasantly surprised for sure.

if you guys are as anal as i am as where stitch no. 434 is going to appear on the back panel, i recommend either talking to wested directly or send them instructions along with your credit card info. it seemed to work for me.....so much that i sent them another one to have a novapelle or dark brown veg tanned jacket made (both hides still not available yet though

). that i can wait for. i also made some more small tweeks like increasing the pocket size as i think these look too small for my frame and also a full satin lining. it's been 3 weeks and mr. mailman is still probably in his canoe on the atlantic somewhere

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:31 pm

You forgot me G

Has it been stated somewhere what thickness or weight this Vegetable Tanned leather is and/or how it compares to the original Raiders leather in that regard. I know people have said it's heavier than the modern and current lambskin, but anyone know the actual specs?

Doug C

You wouldn't happen to know would you? And what is this novapelle I keep coming across?

Doug C

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:47 pm

as i have not handled the original raiders jacket, i can't really provide an accurate opinion.

however, this veg tanned leather is quite heavy and takes wested longer to manufacture a jacket out of which is why they charge a premium. it is comperable to a cowhide leather that i have and i would not think twice of using this as a motorcycle jacket primarily because of it's thickness and how it molds to the body. i would not know if it would hold up as good as cowhide if you ever take an asphalt slide on her but this jacket is quite 'rugged' as KT would put it. based on what i see on screen, the raiders hero jacket is quite lighter than this stuff in the way the screen jacket moves. this veg tanned lamb is more of a heavy duty lamb in comparison as far as drape and look go. hope that answers your question doug.

as far as novapelle goes, see kt's post on "kt gets an lc".

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:06 pm

Thanks IG, I was just thinking that perhaps Wested had announced the thickness at some point (I think Peter has done so for the original Raiders jacket), or perhaps you or Castor had asked since you guys are about the only two who have this leather. BTW, the US Wings antiqued Lambskin leather is also very thick and heavy.. I'd be surprised if this stuff from Wested is more so.. even though it's heavy it is also kind of "bouncey". I know that's a strange description of it, but what I'm saying is that it has some body to it and is somewhat, well..bouncey.

Doug C