removing batting in US Wings jackets

Arca Perdida · Post by **Arca Perdida** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:01 pm

I have 2 of their clearance jackets, one in goat and one in antique lamb. I've been reading about folks removing the batting and getting a much better drape, at the expense of warmth.
I'm contemplating doing that to one of my jackets, but would like to keep the other for colder weather.
Should I do it to the lamb, since the goat is probably more insulating and a better winter jacket to begin with?

Then, if I do that, what's the best way? Where is best place to slit the lining open in terms of ease of removing the batting as well as fixing the lining when I'm done? I can't sew

Thanks

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:11 pm

Do it to both!

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:16 pm

If you choose to remove the batting, I'd do it on only ONE of the jackets. Wait a while and see if you like the one without the batting before removing it on the other. I have a USW G-2 in antique lamb which I like (after I got one that fit me correctly). I opted to keep the batting in.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:19 pm

Agreed. One jacket at a time. Once removed, it can't be replaced.

Regards! Michaelson

skbellis · Post by **skbellis** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:20 pm

I kept the batting in my US Wings G-2, but I opted to remove it from my US Wings Horsehide Indy.

Get yourself a seam ripper and undo one of the seams in the middle of the jacket. Make the open seam big enough to get your hand and part of your arm into.I think your best bet is to sort of open it up in the middle, making it easier to re-sew when you are done. Once you have the opening just reach in and start pulling the batting out. It may take a little while, the batting seams to stick on some of the seams and near the bottom of the sleeves. When you are finished, neatly sew the lining back. Hope that explains it well enough.

Cheers,

---Scott

rebelgtp · Post by **rebelgtp** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:46 pm

i actually opted to pop the stitching in the armpit of my liner. made a hole big enough to get my arm in to pull the batting out from both sides. really you can do it at any of the seems i just chose the arm pit as it was one of the least visible.

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:22 pm

Does the American made USW jackets have batting?
Because my goatskin jacket doesn't seem to have it.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:22 pm

I believe my USW G-2 is American made. I can't find a label in it anywhere saying it was made anywhere else. It has batting.

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:49 pm

I felt around the inside of my jacket and all I felt was the polyester lining and leather.
So I'm guessing my jacket doesn't have batting.

IndyFan89 · Post by **IndyFan89** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:58 am

Is there a thread where i can learn more about the batting and how to remove it? Even what it is? lol

Arca Perdida · Post by **Arca Perdida** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:36 am

IndyFan89 wrote:Is there a thread where i can learn more about the batting and how to remove it? Even what it is? lol

IndyFan, I think this is it

Thanks for the tips. I would definitely pick one to do that to, not both. Besides, I'd like to keep one for colder weather.
What holds the batting in place inside the jacket? Is it possible to damage any of the stitching when pulling it out if it's stuck on it?

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:48 am

Hey IF89, dont you have a USW lambskin jacket?

IndyFan89 · Post by **IndyFan89** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:01 am

Ya! Does that have a batter?

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:22 am

IF89. telling by your three piece sleeve, I'm guessing it's a clearance jacket.
Arca Perdida stated that his is an import and has a batting.
So yours might have one too, if it's an import.
I don't know, I could be wrong.
Mine is US made and it doesn't have a batting.
I know it doesn't cause I just cut a little slit in the inside of my jacket and saw nothing but leather.
Don't worry I'm gonna sew it up ASAP.

fishmeok · Post by **fishmeok** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:26 am

As far as I know the batting isn't actually insulation. I think it's used to help hold the liner together while it's being constructed. The batting is sewn into the liner only around the seams-
Cheers
Mark

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:17 am

According to Wings, it is insulation. The reason it's only sewn at the seams is to allow air to circulate, keeping the warm air close to the body, and cold air out.

Regards! Michaelson

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:46 am

I'm sure it was applied to simply insulate the fish, too.

Regards! Michaelson

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:15 am

How was the fish? Did it fit correctly?

IndyFan89 · Post by **IndyFan89** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:14 pm

indy89 wrote:IF89. telling by your three piece sleeve, I'm guessing it's a clearance jacket.
Arca Perdida stated that his is an import and has a batting.
So yours might have one too, if it's an import.
I don't know, I could be wrong.
Mine is US made and it doesn't have a batting.
I know it doesn't cause I just cut a little slit in the inside of my jacket and saw nothing but leather.
Don't worry I'm gonna so it up ASAP.

I bought mine before the clearence

. Maybe mine is a import i don't know?

IndyFan89 · Post by **IndyFan89** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:15 pm

Where is it at and how do i take it out?

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:07 pm

IF89, according to fishmeok and Michaelson,
the batting is located only around the seams.
That should answer your question about where the batting is.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:08 pm

No, that's not what I said. It's ATTACHED, or sewn in at the seams. It's all behind the entire lining of the jacket.

Regards! Michaelson

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:11 pm

Oh @#$%! Sorry, I missed that.
Forget what I said IF89, don't listen to me.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:21 pm

No, no problem at all, Indy89, and no mistake on your part.

I just left out key words in the original post, thinking folks could read my mind.

HIGH regards! Michaelson

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:34 pm

I can read your mind, Michaelson. How's this: "I think I need another cup of coffee."

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:43 pm

Well, when it's one track, SURE you can read it.....

Regards! Michaelson

Arca Perdida · Post by **Arca Perdida** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:45 pm

I've read before that the batting serves 2 purposes. Insulation and to give the jacket some shape. The latter explains why it drapes better without it. Because your body gives it the shape.

So, if it's attached at the seams, how do I make sure not to rip that when I'm pulling it out?

Coffee rules! Just gotta go easy on the Bailey's.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:56 pm

Arca Perdida wrote: The latter explains why it drapes better without it. Because your body gives it the shape.

Yet another reason why I never remove batting from a jacket. If it's expecting MY body to give it shape, I may as well wear a burlap bag!

Regards! Michaelson

fishmeok · Post by **fishmeok** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:56 pm

Ah- maybe that's why mine was a "clearance" jacket- the batting was only at the ends of the arms and around the armpits...

Still think it looks better without the stuffing though.
Cheers
Mark

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:45 pm

Michaelson wrote: Yet another reason why I never remove batting from a jacket. If it's expecting MY body to give it shape, I may as well wear a burlap bag!

Regards! Michaelson

One burlap bag comin' right up!

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:13 am

Ouch!

Regards! Michaelson

JulianK · Post by **JulianK** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:36 am

Easy answer. Remove batting. Jacket fits better. Weather gets colder. I put on sweater underneath. Done deal.

raider 57 · Post by **raider 57** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:29 pm

As observed by INDY89;My US Wings US-made Indy Goatskin has no batting material between the lining and leather shell. Through the lining all you can feel is the leather, there is nothing else in there.
raider 57

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:54 pm

Which is good, because I hate insulation in adventure jackets.

raider 57 · Post by **raider 57** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:08 pm

It's still pretty warm for winter even without. As they say,just wear a warm shirt under it.

raider 57

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:15 pm

Right on.

kobol · Post by **kobol** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:55 pm

I removed the batting from my USWings clearance goat. I just carefully opened one of the liner seams and stuck my hand in gently and carefully started removing the batting. Then I had a local tailor sew it back up for $5.00 so it looked like new again.
It did improve the drape and it's perfect right now for our current Seattle temps.

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:13 am

Not only did my goat have the batting, but it also had thin shoulder pads - which I promptly removed! IT fits fantastic now!

I also have a vin cow US wings, which now has the batting removed but it didn't have the shoulder padding.

Did anyone else have shoulder pads on their import Indy jackets?

C3

IndyFan89 · Post by **IndyFan89** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:55 am

Please some one post pics on where this is located!

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:58 am

IndyFan89 wrote:Please some one post pics on where this is located!

It's in the jacket.

Castor Dioscuri · Post by **Castor Dioscuri** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:16 am

coronado3 wrote:Not only did my goat have the batting, but it also had thin shoulder pads - which I promptly removed! IT fits fantastic now!

I also have a vin cow US wings, which now has the batting removed but it didn't have the shoulder padding.

Did anyone else have shoulder pads on their import Indy jackets?

C3

I had shoulder pads on my recent pre-distressed Wested prototype, but I'm not sure if it's made outside of the UK or not...

JulianK · Post by **JulianK** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:51 am

IT fits fantastic now!

Just out of curiousity, do you find that it fits a little larger now or is the sizing more or less the same as it was with the batting in?

Ripper · Post by **Ripper** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:59 am

IndyFan89 wrote:
Please some one post pics on where this is located!

It's in the jacket.

OK, How about posting pics of someone actually taking it out of the jacket ?

coronado3 · Post by **coronado3** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:48 pm

Julian

I have found that the fit is the same without the batting, it just drapes better and is not so "puffy". Removing the batting is a vast improvement on these US wings jackets...Also, don't forget to remove the shoulder pads, too!

C3

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:55 pm

And the pockets. Don't forget to remove the pockets, too... and the collar...

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:30 pm

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:43 pm

Can someone please post a before and after picture(s)? And a photo of what exactly it looks like and where it is? Is it just the inside lining and stitching?

Arca Perdida · Post by **Arca Perdida** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:40 am

binkmeisterRick wrote:And the pockets. Don't forget to remove the pockets, too... and the collar...

Well, I'm glad I tried your suggestion on just one of them. I think it loses a bit of its "Indyness."

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:07 am

Arca, the day you start listening to bink is the day we take you to counciling!

Regards! Michaelson

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:20 am

No amount of counciling will help that boy now. It's too late.

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