Indy Jacket worn open..

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:10 am

Just watched Raiders (again) with the kids and what I noticed this time about the jacket is how cool it looks in the opening sceens while Indy is wearing it open in the cave. I noted that none of mine have ever looked that good while being worn open - don't know why, this jacket thing is just an enigma isn't it? I usually like to wear it just slightly zipped because when I leave it un-zipped it feels, well different and definately not as cool as the one HF is wearing in that opening sceen. I did notice that the jacket fits him somewhat large and longer in those sceens too. Just some observations..

Doug C

Cowboy · Post by **Cowboy** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:06 am

I agree. Michelson, clear the Plymouth

Post by **Michaelson** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:23 am

Regards! Michaelson

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:55 pm

I actually think HF wears the same jacket through the whole movie. Mostly because of the exacting way the "demon roll" is always present (on the non-stormflap side) it really turns out and over that zipper. Also because of the jagged looking stretch mark on the upper chest area (on the right hand side). Just opinions from recent observations

Doug C

Castor Dioscuri · Post by **Castor Dioscuri** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:51 pm

Well, I'm probably wrong, but I think that his jacket probably has a smaller chest size (since it hangs open so much), and is tapered at the waist by alot (to evenly match the waist)...

Then again, I'm basing my opinion on this picture:

Post by **Ken** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:07 pm

I think the key is a very tapered waist

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:37 am

That jacket creates an illusion of bring many things. Some of you looking at the jacket say it looks bigger on him. Others say it looks tighter in the chest. Some say it is longer.

My turn. That jacket looks looser because it is worn open and is hanging off Ford's shoulders. This also makes the sleeves seem longer. If you pull the jacket up so the collar is at his shirt collar and the shoulder lined up, you would see it differently.

Also, if you take a jacket and crunch the front panels to the side while wet/damp and let it dry, you will get a jacket that stays wide open easier.

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:38 am

I agree but also think high arm holes are essential too

Doug C

orb · Post by **orb** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:54 am

I don't think HF raiders jacket has a smaller chest size or is tappered at the waist.
I think it just looks so loose because it don't have any leather facings. This makes the jacket fall much different in the front. And don't forget that the silver aluminium? zipper is less heavier than the thick brass zipper which wested offers. I can actually see this on my new Lambtouch Raiders jacket which has nearly all of the SA specs.

Much regards

orb

Kaplan · Post by **Kaplan** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:30 am

And look at those big fat pocket flaps!

Those are awesome, and look nothing like any I have seen on a Wested before.

davyjones007 · Post by **davyjones007** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:58 pm

If you look around the arm pit and chest area you can see heavy creases. I think that these creases help the jacket stay open and look smaller or tighter. Has pointed out too, HF does wear his jacket very loose and off the shoulders.

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:42 pm

Here is a quick example with my Aero Highwayman which I happen to be wearing today...

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:00 pm

i couldn't agree with rick5150 more....have a close look at the idol grab scene just before he kneels down. his jacket is worn way low on his shoulders....kind of like a "hey check out these pleats on my military shirt" pose.

when you wear your jacket back and down in this manner, you get those nice shoulder wrinkles:

Cowboy · Post by **Cowboy** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:17 am

[quote="rick5150"]Here is a quick example with my Aero Highwayman which I happen to be wearing today...

HUH???? Nope, you are wearing two different coats--one for the zipped up scene and the other for the un-zipped scene

CM · Post by CM » Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:33 pm

Kaplan wrote:And look at those big fat pocket flaps! :D Those are awesome, and look nothing like any I have seen on a Wested before.

That's impossible. Peter had the original plans; he says on his site that his jackets are a duplicate of the original worn by HF. What about that certificate of authenticity?

Just joking. I know what you mean. If only Wested would get those pockets right. I don't care all that much about the other details, but those #### pockets are wrong - even on his latest authentic, genuine, exact copy...

Regards - CM

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:43 am

pockets are wrong - even on his latest authentic, genuine, exact copy...

Yes they are. But you can always get the pockets exactly as you like on your custom order.

In my last order, which is on the way, I gave Wested 1/1 scale drawings of the pocket and pocket flap. I just hope they 'll get them right. Otherwise, I am doomed.

mark seven · Post by **mark seven** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:28 am

I find having the weight of something in the pockets like keys or gloves gives the jacket a nice swing when it's open..and I like shrugging the jacket back off the shoulders too(except when it's raining!

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Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:41 am

I think you're right about that.. One thing I noticed that I think contributes to the movie jacket's cool factor is that the bottom front lays over the gun holster (right hand side) which causes a flared appearance that we don't normally have going on everyday.

Doug C

Solo4114 · Post by **Solo4114** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:44 am

Anyone here stop to consider that the jacket was custom-tailored to Ford's frame at the time, which is why it looks so good?

Any of you guys ever been to a real custom tailor? I've been lucky enough to have the opportunity and let me tell you, it makes a HUGE difference. A tailored suit and an "off the rack" suit look totally different because of very subtle things.

What's more, there's no substitute for actually BEING in the tailor's shop. You can send the measurements, but it makes things a lot easier if the tailor can make the pattern himself based of of YOU rather than based off of numbers.

That's the key to why Ford's jacket looks so good on him.

Cowboy · Post by **Cowboy** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:50 am

Solo4114 wrote:Anyone here stop to consider that the jacket was custom-tailored to Ford's frame at the time, which is why it looks so good?

Any of you guys ever been to a real custom tailor? I've been lucky enough to have the opportunity and let me tell you, it makes a HUGE difference. A tailored suit and an "off the rack" suit look totally different because of very subtle things.

What's more, there's no substitute for actually BEING in the tailor's shop. You can send the measurements, but it makes things a lot easier if the tailor can make the pattern himself based of of YOU rather than based off of numbers.

That's the key to why Ford's jacket looks so good on him.

AWWWWWWWWWWW, Shut your YAP! (as Sylvester the cat would say)

Yes, I think that you just might be right AND they used several jackets in the Movies!---------Running as fast as I can for cover......Neener Neener $\:D/$

Technonut · Post by **Technonut** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:20 am

When displaying my gear, I prefer the jacket open.... It has the "right" look to me.

Cowboy · Post by **Cowboy** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:30 am

How in the Hey-HO-a-Lina do you wear in off the shoulders. Maybe mine are just too broad to achieve this look

Where is the bottom of the display? i can't see the bottom of the jacket.

Jorenz · Post by **Jorenz** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:40 pm

Solo4114 wrote:Anyone here stop to consider that the jacket was custom-tailored to Ford's frame at the time, which is why it looks so good?

Yes we have

Kaleponi Craig · Post by **Kaleponi Craig** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:27 pm

Ken wrote:I think the key is a very tapered waist

And to look as good as HF...KC

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:29 pm

I haven't had a tapered waist since I was in my late 30's!

Regards! Michaelson

Technonut · Post by **Technonut** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:25 pm

Where is the bottom of the display? i can't see the bottom of the jacket.

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:56 pm

thin "wavey" (silver) zipper, no leather facing and a thicker leather than most modern Lambskin..maybe even add 'a bit on the roomy side' to that list.. those are the thing that for me, give the cool drape and general look of this jacket, particularly when worn open.

Doug C

Cowboy · Post by **Cowboy** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:07 pm

Michaelson wrote:I haven't had a tapered waist since I was in my late 30's!

Regards! Michaelson

Was that just as Raiders Came out to the theater?

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:13 pm

Nope. Many years after Last Crusade.

No, not the REAL Crusades....the movie!! Sheesh!

Regards! Michaelson

Cowboy · Post by **Cowboy** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:19 pm

Michaelson wrote:Nope. Many years after Last Crusade.

No, not the REAL Crusades....the movie!! Sheesh!

Regards! Michaelson

OH!!!!! MY BAD!!! You just look so distinguished in your Staff Profile, I just thought that surely such wisdom can not come from any one so young. I was wrong.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:27 pm

True....SO true!

Actually, I was in my mid 30's when LC came out.

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana Max · Post by **Indiana Max** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:38 pm

In the back of your picture, is there a rapier from the musketry hanging on the wall

:

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:42 pm

HEAVENS no....we had to keep them at hand to fight off the Huns......but that's another story. 8-[

Regards! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:05 pm

Indiana Max wrote:In the back of your picture, is there a rapier from the musketry hanging on the wall

Rapier?

Technonut · Post by **Technonut** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:16 pm

Indiana Max wrote:In the back of your picture, is there a rapier from the musketry hanging on the wall :

Good eye Indiana Max...

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:21 pm

AH, I should have known. Technonut is the 6 fingered man!

Regard! Michaelson

Smokey · Post by **Smokey** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:53 pm

Michaelson wrote:AH, I should have known. Technonut is the 6 fingered man!

Regard! Michaelson

Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father prepare to die.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:55 pm

Good man!

"AS...YOU....WISH!!!!!"

HIGH regards! Michaelson

Smokey · Post by **Smokey** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:04 pm

We should change this to a Princess Bride forum!

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:07 pm

Between it and Monty Python's "The Holy Grail", they appear quite often in the halls of COW, and have for years!

Regard! Michaelson

o-wj · Post by **o-wj** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:45 am

Michaelson wrote:Good man! "AS...YOU....WISH!!!!!"

HIGH regards! Michaelson

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