Stock HJ vs Magnoli HJ comparison....for the lurkers.

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:53 pm

For the folks that can't see the Vendor section, here is a pictorial comparions of the stock SAB HJ and the Magnoli HJ that I am doing.

SAB HJ

SAB HJ

Magnoli Raiders HJ.

Magnoli Raiders HJ

regards, Fedora

Indiana Max · Post by **Indiana Max** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:55 pm

Magnoli Raiders HJ FTW

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:41 pm

you're not fighting fair fedora! you can't make a raiders hat out of the current HJ and then compare it to a reblocked magnoli HJ.....that ain't a fair fight. i'll pull out my TOD HJ to even up the odds.....because those were the best indy hats anywas {diving roll under the plymouth}

beauty of hat though

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:07 pm

Hope you brought hot coffee, G. It's cold under the Plymouth right now.

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:35 pm

perhaps i'll just stir up enough ka-ka that the cow villagers will chase me under the plymouth with their torches....that'll keep it nice and toasty!!!

so here goes....man...whats up with the raiders hat? the brim is uneven and ribbon is on crooked......ha ha ha ha!

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:37 pm

Villagers with torches?

Excuse me. I need to go move the car.......

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:40 pm

....guess i'll hook the whip to the axle then.....you're not getting rid of me that easy michaelson!!!

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:41 pm

Regards! Michaelson

Fedoraman · Post by **Fedoraman** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:23 pm

Tone? Wherefore art thou, Tone?

Abner1925 · Post by **Abner1925** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:51 pm

This hat looks very different than the first one in the main Magnoli/HJ thread. Different blocks this time? Also, Todd's HJ's look much, much better than those tapered SAB ones.

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:51 am

This hat looks very different than the first one in the main Magnoli/JH thread. Different blocks this time? Also, Todd's HJ's look much, much better than those tapered SAB ones.

That is what a difference in 1/2 inch in crown height does to a hat. The pic that Magnoli posted was the prototype that was too short!! I did not catch it until after I had cut the brim. Too late to go back then. The pics I posted is the same block, but with the right crown height. His pic depicted a hat I screwed up. My pic showed what the hat should have looked like. I had to learn how to work with this rabbit felt.

Fedora

Abner1925 · Post by **Abner1925** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:54 pm

Thats makes sense to me. Thanks much for the scoop.

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:31 pm

I'm actually much more impressed with the Magnoli HJ than I thought I'd be. The SAB doesn't even look like a bad Indy hat, but the reblock is great! And I love the color from what I can see.
Good work Gents!
Chewie

Indy1939 · Post by **Indy1939** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:12 am

Not being a connoseiur (sp?) mind you, I have to say, in my opinion, the Magnoli HJ just has something the SAB HJ doesn't, it might be the color in the lighting. Now for a silly question from a somewhat still newbie... are the brims on those really that large looking in person or is it just the camera playing a trick on my eye?
Allen

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:10 pm

i thinks its a camera trick. i've wondered the same thing from all of the AB pics i see when the owner is not wearing it. when mine came, the brim was of correct proportion. the pic of the rear of the hat though looks quite bang on to what you see when its in front of you.

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:55 pm

Pretty much every hat I photograph head-on looks like that.
Chewie

Curator Rick · Post by **Curator Rick** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:20 am

Nice touch putting the recycle emblem in the photo

That should help keep the beaver loving enviromentalists happy 8-[
Great hat by the way

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:30 am

Nice touch putting the recycle emblem in the photo That should help keep the beaver loving enviromentalists happy
Great hat by the way

Seen from a particular perspective, we are all recycled. Recycled star dust, to wax poetic.

You too, in time will join in the great circle of recycling. My view of the world, and nature is very anthropomorphic. I see beavers being put here by the Creator to make hats from.

Beaver underfur will "felt" or mat naturally, without artificial help from stuff like mercury, or hydrogen peroxide. So to me, the felting nature of beaver fur was designed with beaver hats in mind.

Rabbit underfur needs the chemical help to mat properly, so they are better for eating, rather than for hats. And they make nice soft fur collars for ladies jackets and coats. And do well in lining leather gloves.

On the other hand, if seen from a worm's perspective, we were put here to insure the survival of worms. Speaking of worms and perspective......how about the old saw that goes, "the early bird always catches the worm?" Well, seen from the worm's perspective, if the early bird always catches the worm, then I would say the worm should have stayed in bed!!

Perspectives are tricky little devils. Fedora

prairiejones · Post by **prairiejones** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:32 am

Jee. Hard to believe that hat looks so much better after being re blocked by Steve. He usually ruins a good hat.

Great idea sending it in for a re block. It looks fantastic!!!
Not to hijack this thread, but I thought it would be a good place to unveil the re block he did on my Federation. That's my usual bash that I do using Pagey's tutorial. I now love this hat almost as much as my AB. In many ways I like the way it looks better, but still not as comfortable.

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:40 am

The SAB doesn't even look like a bad Indy hat, but the reblock is great!

It would make a great LC hat, or TOD hat, IF, the felt were stiffer. The felt as we receive it today is great for a Raiders fedora, but is severely lacking in the right blockshape to pull it off. The current block shape of the HJ really calls for the stiffer LC felt. It would then be what the original LC was, in felt and blockshape. And it would not **** in so much on the top when you put in the top crease, giving less taper than this soft felt does. The current HJs have the most Raiders accurate felt that I have seen out of HJ since I saw Mike's Lee Kepler HJ. In fact, this may very well be the exact same felt that was on the Raider's fedora. If not, it is very close. Fedora

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:55 am

That federation looks good! I guess that will be my next move. To offer a Raider's Federation. Might be nice to have a Raiders Federation, and put a 150 dollar price on it. That would be a hat that the college kids could afford. Fedora

Indiana Blooze · Post by **Indiana Blooze** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:39 am

Fedora wrote:

That federation looks good! I guess that will be my next move. To offer a Raider's Federation. Might be nice to have a Raiders Federation, and put a 150 dollar price on it. That would be a hat that the college kids could afford. Fedora

Doggone it all, just what I needed, another COW member coming up with a way to seperate me from my money.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:46 pm

pj, nice fed. i like the distinctive brim that you always have on your hats. it has great character....very soc.

prairiejones · Post by **prairiejones** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:01 pm

Thanks guys. I am very proud of that bash. I did use quite a bit of steam on the brim. None on the crown, though.

Oklahoma Jones · Post by **Oklahoma Jones** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:06 am

Steve, I am going to have to see if my job will deposit into your paypal account when they pay me from now on............every time I log on to the site, you've got a new idea for a great hat that I must have.............as the gypsy once told me, 'I see a lot of overtime in your future'