NO WHIPS .... NO FORD

Canasta · Post by **Canasta** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:35 am

A friend of mine just sent me this link.

WHAT THE...!!??!?!?

Canasta
PS
I wasn't sure where would be best to post this so I also put it in the BIG THREE section.

http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/ford-w ... ana-jones/

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:37 am

What's up, Chris? Long time....

Can you say FAKE article??? It is a funny one, though.

thefish · Post by **thefish** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:57 pm

I agree with A5. This reeks of b0770cks!

Yeah, unfortunately, just for simplicity sake, they'll probably do SOME CGI of the whip stuff, (because whips are REALLY hard to photograph effectively. Believe me.) But if they do, it will have nothing to do with Health and Safety standards, it will be because the executive producer has become a CGI-obsessed git.

Just my $0.02.

By the way, Heya Chris! How's it goin? ;-)

-Dan

Post by **BullWhipBorton** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:49 pm

That’s pretty funny Chris, Thanks for posting it here. Hopefully its just BS, It wouldn’t be an Indiana Jones Movie with out the Ford really cracking a bullwhip! Lucas and Spielberg better know this, We don’t want any of that Hallie Berry CGI Catwoman whipcracking garbage!

Dan

Don't Call Me Junior! · Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:29 pm

(After tossing Indy out the zeppelin window) "No whip!"

That would start to lay the groundwork for boycotting the movie! I think one of the things I would be looking forward to most is seeing HF back in action with the whip. Just as we can't help but think of Indiana Jones when we see another movie where a character uses a whip, an Indiana Jones movie without an actual whip in it is not really an Indiana Jones movie!

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:15 am

thefish wrote:I agree with A5. This reeks of b0770cks!

Yeah, unfortunately, just for simplicity sake, they'll probably do SOME CGI of the whip stuff, (because whips are REALLY hard to photograph effectively. Believe me.) But if they do, it will have nothing to do with Health and Safety standards, it will be because the executive producer has become a CGI-obsessed git.

Just my $0.02.

By the way, Heya Chris! How's it goin? ;-)

-Dan

shows up fine in the old ones....

indy89 · Post by **indy89** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:47 am

I'm glad that article is a bunch of bull s**t. If they were really gonna use computer graphics, than I would be one angry fan right now. :evil:

Indiana Max · Post by **Indiana Max** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:35 am

"Ford has said that this rule is ridiculous and that he will pull out of the new movie unless he gets his whip back"

Good guy

thefish · Post by **thefish** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:01 pm

Mola Ram wrote: shows up fine in the old ones....

For one scene in the whole bloody trilogy it does, just in the Cairo marketplace for the wide shot.

That worked well because they were in REALLY bright light and could bump of the shutter speed of the camera.

24 frames/second is REALLY slow when you're working at 900 miles per hour. Fortunately the vague blur at the end of the whip makes it difficult to tell you didn't actually HIT the guy.

Everything else is Spielberg's signature cutaways. Shot of guy. Shot of Indy going for whip. REALLY quick shot of whip snaking out. Reaction shot of guy who's just been hit.

That's about it. VERY VERY effective, especially for Spielberg's cutting style, (blends well with everything else, because Steve is the KING of the short shot!) but if they want to do anything different, it's CGI, (and you KNOW they will, because the producers will push for bigger, faster fight scenes because the "Worked in the Matrix," though Spielberg will resist this. It's hard to tell which way Lucas might swing on that issue, as that plays into his current CGI fetish.)

If I see one bullet-time whip action scene I'm walking out then and there. ;-)

-Dan

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:11 pm

presitence of whip play has been made for recent movies like the rundown and the legend of zorro so i think this article is about as truthful as SAB saying that they still offer the real raiders hat.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:02 pm

thefish wrote:If I see one bullet-time whip action scene I'm walking out then and there. ;-)

-Dan

Cool! Bullet-time whip effect! (jots that down... "George! I have an idea!")

Canyon · Post by **Canyon** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:59 pm

Hahahahahahahhahahah!!!!

Hanselation · Post by **Hanselation** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:52 am

Harrison will get a real whip...and it maybe, that ILM will tune it a little bit up by CGI. But I hope if they (ILM) do so, they will do it in that way that it does look like there where NO DIGITAL EFFECTS used.
It's Indy - It's not (the cleaned up) Star Wars Episodes I-III.

JAN · Post by **JAN** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:49 am

If I see one bullet-time whip action scene I'm walking out then and there

A real cool idea - not that it fits into the Indy-frachise, but anyway

Best regards

JAN

thefish · Post by **thefish** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:00 pm

Yeah, after I posted that, I started thinking about Bullwhip Bullet Time, and you're right.

Wouldn't fit Indy, but I am thinking about it. Might have to give that a try on a project I'm working on....

-Dan