Model 1917

pigirondan · Post by **pigirondan** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:18 pm

Smith & Wesson is coming out this year with three new Model 1917 revolvers. A blued model, a case hardened model and a nickle model.

They will be under "Classics."

bleyd · Post by **bleyd** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:55 pm

Do you know how much and will it have the lanyard ring like in the images on their site? If so I need to start saving up for one.

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:39 pm

pigirondan wrote:Smith & Wesson is coming out this year with three new Model 1917 revolvers. A blued model, a case hardened model and a nickle model.

They will be under "Classics."

Excellent Dan! Where did you hear this?

Indiana Charles · Post by **Indiana Charles** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:19 pm

Great news. Any idea on when they will release the price?

- I.C.

Marlin_Fan · Post by **Marlin_Fan** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:39 pm

Where did you get your information from??

pigirondan · Post by **pigirondan** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:07 pm

Go to the Smith & Wesson website. Check under "New Products" or "Select a Caliber" (Choose .45 ACP.)

No prices, but yes, there is a lanyard ring.

GCR · Post by **GCR** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:17 pm

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/ ... y_rn=15702
Sweet

-GCR

carebear · Post by **carebear** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:50 pm

Looking at Gunblast's Shot Show (the firearms industry trade show) report, it looks like US Firearms is coming out with an old school 1911. Even down to the roll marks.

Not sure the price is right though.

http://www.usfirearms.com/cat/1911.asp

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:09 pm

Holy Moly, check out the new models or should I say reissues comming out!!!!!!!!!!!

It doesn't look like I'm gonna be saving any money this year.

Indiana Charles · Post by **Indiana Charles** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:17 pm

Colt has their 1911 but I'm not sure historically accurate it is though. It might be that the US Firearms one is more accurate. Michaelson's knowledge would be good here.

- I.C.

pigirondan · Post by **pigirondan** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:00 am

I need to pace myself. Whether or not those "Classics" will be sold in California remains to be seen. Although California has allowed the Thunder Ranch Models and an all nickle Model 36 recently. Time will tell.

pigirondan · Post by **pigirondan** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:42 am

You can check out the Model 36 variations by checking the .38 Special +P caliber.

The "Classic" Chiefs Special is something Indy might have stuffed in a jacket pocket.

Marlin_Fan · Post by **Marlin_Fan** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:08 pm

Pigirondan, thanks for the info!!!!!!!!!

Terryhimself · Post by **Terryhimself** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:19 pm

1917 Blue...$940.00 M.S.R.P
1917 Color Caseharden.. $1106.00 M.S.R.P.
1917 Nickel...$1019.00 M.S.R.P

Could be better..could be worse..Terry

GCR · Post by **GCR** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:25 pm

Terryhimself wrote:1917 Blue...$940.00 M.S.R.P
1917 Color Caseharden.. $1106.00 M.S.R.P.
1917 Nickel...$1019.00 M.S.R.P

Could be better..could be worse..Terry

OUCH! Geeze, guess I'll go back to hunting for an original...

-GCR

Indiana Charles · Post by **Indiana Charles** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:56 pm

At least the one that most people will go for isn't over $1000, but it's close. Might be able to find a deal on Gunbroker.com

- I.C.

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:00 pm

Those prices are about what I expected. Of course they will be selling cheaper in the shops.

I wouldn't mind having one of those Model 29's just for old time sake.

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:02 am

It says that the barrel is 6-1/2". Could you get them cut down to Indy specs? Are "chopped" (for a lack of a better word) guns safe to shoot? I would like to own a real Indy gun but (in Rhode Island) can you own a gun strictly for collecting purposes, maybe to take to the range once and a while?

rebelgtp · Post by **rebelgtp** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:22 am

Terryhimself wrote:1917 Blue...$940.00 M.S.R.P
1917 Color Caseharden.. $1106.00 M.S.R.P.
1917 Nickel...$1019.00 M.S.R.P

Could be better..could be worse..Terry

youch! that hurts!...especially since i started workin on a deal this morning for a tommy gun for $600

carebear · Post by **carebear** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:27 am

rebelgtp wrote:
Terryhimself wrote:1917 Blue...$940.00 M.S.R.P
1917 Color Caseharden.. $1106.00 M.S.R.P.
1917 Nickel...$1019.00 M.S.R.P

Could be better..could be worse..Terry
youch! that hurts!...especially since i started workin on a deal this morning for a tommy gun for $600

A class III for $600?!?

ummm, who are ya buying it from, ya know, just curious...

.oO(mental note, go to bank, take out cash, be prepared to travel)

bleyd · Post by **bleyd** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:07 pm

Indiana Neri wrote:It says that the barrel is 6-1/2". Could you get them cut down to Indy specs? Are "chopped" (for a lack of a better word) guns safe to shoot? I would like to own a real Indy gun but (in Rhode Island) can you own a gun strictly for collecting purposes, maybe to take to the range once and a while?

That's a good question. How much would it cost for this kind of mod?

carebear · Post by **carebear** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:06 pm

There are numerous threads in this particular section on the cost to have a gunsmith cut down a barrel and install the proper "Indy" front site. Do a little searching and/or I'm sure someone will pop up with a link. As long as the modifications are done properly (it's worth paying an actual gunsmith, and don't be afraid to check their name and work out) it is perfectly safe to cut a barrel to 4".

As far as owning the gun in Rhode Island, or any other state, the best place to look is your actual state and city gun regulations. Just google something like "gun laws rhode island".

However, there is a shortcut. www.packing.org It's primarily used by folks like me to figure out laws on carrying weapons (for travel and such) but each state's page includes all the appropriate gun and knife laws and are kept very current. You can also look at the overall Federal laws.

The other good thing about packing is it actually has the links to the actual state regulations, so you can confirm them.

http://www.packing.org/state/rhode_island/

Per the statute, if I'm reading it right, it looks like there's a separate application you'll have to make at the time of purchase of a handgun, beyond the Federal NICS check, and then there's a 7 day wait while the "powers that be" double check you aren't bad. Also looks like you may need to have taken a handgun safety course, which is not a bad idea, mandatory or not.

You might want to swing by your favorite gun store (you DO have a favorite gun store, right?) and just go over the procedure with them.

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:14 pm

Good info posted by carebear! As far as price goes, you better be ready to pay about $400 to have a gun cut to Indy specs. Thats the price I was quoted by a very reputable gunsmith when I researched having the conversion done to my gun.

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:17 pm

Thanks, Matthew. Once I save my pennies I'll go through the motions. Still, that was very helpful. One other quick question: What if your father or grand father or whomever bequiffs a gun (or any other weapon, a collectable) to you? What happens then?

carebear · Post by **carebear** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:29 pm

Still depends on the state's laws. Again, from briefly reading RI's statutes it looks like there's no "registration" per se you'll have to do and there are no Federal registration requirements, gifting firearms is explicitly legal.

As long as you are legal to own the handgun (not a felon, nut job, over 18 (federal law)) I think you can just own it in RI. Again, it'd be good to double check but RI actually seems pretty gun-friendly compared to most of its neighbors.

Be aware, there's no difference between a "collectable" firearm and any other. If it is a firearm under your state law, it's a firearm. They don't care why you have it.

(soap box)

From a practical standpoint, if you are a gun owner for any reason, you owe it to yourself to think of yourself as just that. Don't think that considering yourself a "collector" or "hunter" or "reenactor" will do anything to help you keep your gun when laws come up. Vote your gun ownership, not your narrow particular gun interest. The people who are against "bad" guns are against your "good" ones as well.

(off soap box)

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:29 pm

Indiana Neri wrote:Thanks, Matthew. Once I save my pennies I'll go through the motions. Still, that was very helpful. One other quick question: What if your father or grand father or whomever bequiffs a gun (or any other weapon, a collectable) to you? What happens then?

I'm sure that this also varies by state, but as long as your legally able to own a gun then there should be no problem. I've got 6 guns that I've inherited or had gifted to me by family members.

bleyd · Post by **bleyd** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:53 am

Thanks carebear for the packing site. A world of information at my fingertips.

BTW, what is the differance between case hardened and blued other than the finish? Is case hardened stronger?

carebear · Post by **carebear** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:42 pm

Pure aesthetics nowadays. In the past true case hardening was used to give a hard high carbon finish to a softer low carbon steel, but most gun metal now is of uniform hardness so it's just for looks.

rebelgtp · Post by **rebelgtp** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:34 pm

carebear wrote:
rebelgtp wrote:
Terryhimself wrote:1917 Blue...$940.00 M.S.R.P
1917 Color Caseharden.. $1106.00 M.S.R.P.
1917 Nickel...$1019.00 M.S.R.P

Could be better..could be worse..Terry
youch! that hurts!...especially since i started workin on a deal this morning for a tommy gun for $600
A class III for $600?!?

ummm, who are ya buying it from, ya know, just curious...

.oO(mental note, go to bank, take out cash, be prepared to travel)

hehe its from a friend of mine that has owned the tommy for about 7 years now. he mentioned in passing he was thinking of selling so i jumped on it

. the real killer is he owns 2 original 1917s, the first one he bought for $100 when he was a kid.

i've yet to talk him out of one of those yet. but i keep on trying

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:37 pm

Hmmm if there selling remakes, maybe now I can get some wooden grips that are closer to what I'm looking for for my 1917.
Wonder how I can distress them to look older.
Need to check this out.
Croft

pigirondan · Post by **pigirondan** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:22 am

Indiana Croft wrote:Hmmm if there selling remakes, maybe now I can get some wooden grips that are closer to what I'm looking for for my 1917.
Wonder how I can distress them to look older.
Need to check this out.
Croft

Check this site. They make 1917 replacement grips.

http://www.eaglegrips.com

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:29 am

Ya I've been to that site. Cha Chingggggggggg. Way to expensive for just a pair of Walnut grips. Now if S&W sells new grips for there re-released 1917 and if they will fit vintage 1917, that I'll pay 125.00 for. Why you ask, well because they have the S&W logo and the grips are checkered like the older models and if I'm not mistaken quite much like Indy's.

The grips have look of plastic and the web site says (Grip: Altamont® Wood). So at some time soon I'll try to contact S&W and ask what the deal is.

We shall investaigate.
Croft

Alabama Jones · Post by **Alabama Jones** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:02 pm

J_Weaver wrote:Good info posted by carebear! As far as price goes, you better be ready to pay about $400 to have a gun cut to Indy specs. Thats the price I was quoted by a very reputable gunsmith when I researched having the conversion done to my gun.

Maybe better off getting the regular Model 22 (4 ") and having the lanyard ring added???

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:29 pm

Alabama Jones wrote:
J_Weaver wrote:Good info posted by carebear! As far as price goes, you better be ready to pay about $400 to have a gun cut to Indy specs. Thats the price I was quoted by a very reputable gunsmith when I researched having the conversion done to my gun.

Maybe better off getting the regular Model 22 (4 ") and having the lanyard ring added???

Yup, good gunsmiths are really expensive.

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